skybluefred
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Losing the argument so resorting to abuse--how childish.
Shot yourself in the foot, haven't you SISU (1 Viewer)
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Losing the argument so resorting to abuse--how childish.
fernandopartridge
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They effectively paid for them anyway
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They turned down £400,000 a good deal and we the supporters are left watching the match in a pub instead of at the RICOH while you idiots still support SISU. The only way to get the sky blues back at the RICOH is for a total BOYCOTT of SISU and that means any verbal support or negative comments against people opposed to SISU
ccfcway
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Their history is selling all the good players and as the team we beat today were the only club to bid i expect it was not a lot of money and any one who thinks we will not sell in january when the offers come in are mad.
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They could have signed up to a £400,000 agreament.
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SISU cost us 20 points by not paying their rent or taking the £400,000 reduced rent.
dongonzalos
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If you dou do not pay your rent you will be evicted , and who will you blame?
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And when it folds their will be buyers as the debt will be gone as well as SISU( what a wonderfull dream)
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If you sell something and want it back, do you not have to buy it back.
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Sky Blue Spud
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If only it was that simple.............
Samo
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Was never offered to 'the club', only the administrator, behave.
Grendel
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How did you suddenly become so sensible?
Samo
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I share more common ground with you than you might imagine, it's usually your manner I have a problem with.
mark82
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That's not true though is it? By forcing administration last year they did. By denying a fair offer via the CVA from the admin they forced they did it again. They did this blindly believing they could pick new owners for the club. Sisu are crooks but ACL have really screwed us over.
mark82
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Not observing NOPM then?
Baginton
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Be that as it may, they would still be in Northampton. So Sisu have still screwed it up for everyone bar NTFC, including themselves.
bigfatronssba
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But we now know that the CVA was based on inaccurate information so surely acl were right to reject it?
bigfatronssba
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At that point in time the administrator was the club.
Astute
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True. And at the time Appleton was supposedly running the club. All offers should have gone through him. Just like when Timothy got told about the reduced rent offer. And the rent free whilst in admin......like we are still in. He had to go back to Joy.
Astute
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And just about everyone that understands what is going on knows this is more fiction than fact. The majority of football clubs don't own their grounds. They have the lease though. SISU don't want the lease. They want the freehold. They can't run up much debt against a lease. But with the freehold.........
So it is all about the pie money like was said by Timothy? It would help, but not as much as some say. If they want it so bad why don't they hold meetings with the people that matter? Why not take the rent free period? Why not talk about a much reduced rent? Why make the fans and our club suffer so much when it is losing them so much money?
Grendel
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They would have signed it if two conditions they imposed were agreed.
blueflint
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Under the "Hoffman Deal", they could have played there for nothing but Fisher dismissed the proposal out of hand!
Grendel
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Wrong. His desk included getting the money back "plus a return".
Grendel
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Why were they?
torchomatic
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shmmeee
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Sources? What experts saying we must own our ground? I mean finance experts, not "football experts" who are no better qualified than you or me to say what a viable business strategy is.
Stop this bullshit myth. The rent wasn't killing us, the wage bill and debt were and Sisu are responsible for both. Even with no rent Sisu have run up £53m of debt in 6 years of owning the club and have nothing but a relegation and 4 senior players to show for it.
The club needs access to more income, granted, perhaps they shouldn't have cut off the only viable route to getting it by stopping paying the rent? Perhaps they should actually market their product instead of letting it die in Nothampton? Perhaps the could rent some space a a fair deal and start these bank busting "revenue streams" Joy has lined up.
ALL of this ALL OF THIS about the club needing the Ricoh is bollocks. We need to control our costs and increase our outgoings, just owning a stadium won't do either and Sisu have shown no ability to maximise the club's income.
What owning the stadium WILL do is make the club more valuable in a sale scenario, after which we're back to square one with a shit ton of debt.
The club need to do what the club have repeatedly refused to do: fund a competitive team on the pitch and engage and enthuse fans off it. Not whine about property deals.
SIR ERNIE
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DazzleTommyDazzle
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It would however have put them in a much better financial position than their self-imposed exile in Northampton.
shmmeee
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In terms of overall financial impact compared to Northampton it wasn't only free they were being paid to do it.
Besides, we all know it wasn't a serious offer it was designed to prove the financial idiocy of moving out of the Ricoh: it's soooo profitable to be there that Hoffman can take a cut and STILL the club make money compared to Northampton.
So why get pedantic over terms when you know the point Hoffman was making was very valid?
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