Ann Lucas Statement (3 Viewers)
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Hugh Jarse
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I've read what Lucas has said and this is what I make of it.
1. Pay us what you owe us and we'll talk about a return to The Ricoh.
2. If you don't pay up, The Ricoh can survive without a football club.
If this is her beloved Sky Blues, I'd hate to see what she would do to a company or organisation she disliked!
1. Pay us what you owe us and we'll talk about a return to The Ricoh.
2. If you don't pay up, The Ricoh can survive without a football club.
If this is her beloved Sky Blues, I'd hate to see what she would do to a company or organisation she disliked!
skybluefred
New Member
The "pathetic" demo (your words) had nothing to do with this statement from Anne Lucas.
I read it as an invite to sisu to get round the table and talk,which is the ONLY way we will get back to playing at
the RICOH.
But JS said she will only come back if she can buy it so it's up to her to make an offer. The ball is therefore in her court don't you think?
James Smith
Well-Known Member
That and the freehold
They are acting as SISU and for SISU ("...get a return for my investors") - nothing there about the interests of the football club or its supporters. Never has been
Expect the usual shite to come back in retaliation from fisher and co.
Just to clear something up as well, when fisher goes on about 'real decision makers' who have power to do things at the meetings they've had, the acl/CCC personnel that have been there had the power to talk/negotiate a rent deal, however sisu wanted to talk about the freehold, which they did not have the power to negotiate....it's been twisted.
The original withholding of rent cos it was too high was a smokescreen for ulterior motives.
Just to clear something up as well, when fisher goes on about 'real decision makers' who have power to do things at the meetings they've had, the acl/CCC personnel that have been there had the power to talk/negotiate a rent deal, however sisu wanted to talk about the freehold, which they did not have the power to negotiate....it's been twisted.
The original withholding of rent cos it was too high was a smokescreen for ulterior motives.
olderskyblue
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This means you Nikki.....
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skybluefred
New Member
800 signatures out of a populace of 320,000 and over 3 times as many opposing the 800.Until sisu get their act together
and actually speak to the Council--the Council have no reason to discuss other plans for the Stadium with anybody,
particularly with the JR in November.
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Depends if the Council want a football club in the city or not.
RoboCCFC90
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I have just read the full statement I must admit I had a little doubt in Ann Lucas before but this statements sounds creditable.
The ball is served and is now in Otium and Joy's court, so it's now time for Otium to make the next move.
A lot of posters have picked out the 'I will not short change them' part of the statement you can either read that statement two ways. Firstly they would be willing to listen to offers at a fair price or they have no interest in selling the Arena and will continue to offer a rental deal to the club.
The ball is served and is now in Otium and Joy's court, so it's now time for Otium to make the next move.
A lot of posters have picked out the 'I will not short change them' part of the statement you can either read that statement two ways. Firstly they would be willing to listen to offers at a fair price or they have no interest in selling the Arena and will continue to offer a rental deal to the club.
sky blue zam
Member
fair statement for me, explained why she cant talk, invited sisu AGAIN. she is right though, only seppala can bring ccfc back. worth pointing out though that she does have 320,000 people to consider and while 90% of ccfc fans are boycotting sixfields how many times did we fill the ricoh with 10% ?of covs population.
what slse can cov council do?
what slse can cov council do?
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fernandopartridge
Well-Known Member
What do you oppose the 800 for? Surely their stated aim is the same as everybody's?
oldskyblue58
CCFC Finance Director
There are a couple things you could take from it
- it is clearly a bargaining position of sorts but dont read in to it that the freehold is for sale. Council prepared to talk but its up to SISU to make the approach. Pretty much what has gone on at the Higgs centre and what ACL are saying at the Ricoh. So consistent in a sense. It puts the ball in SISU's court
- It says that anyone who doesnt have real substance need not approach and that well meaning or self publicising individuals are not helpful
- One issue that is put around is that the Council wont talk or consider a deal with SISU. I believe that forms part of the JR application. Clearly AL is saying they will talk to anyone prepared to deal in a fair way (that includes SISU). It counters the statements and sentiments of previous council leader to some degree
- It shows faith and support for what is being done by ACL, whilst seeming to be concilliatory to other parties. They want CCFC back at the Ricoh but it isnt at any price, the world will still turn without them.
- yes there are emotive parts to it ..... why not?
- it says there will not be detailed statements from the CCC on the dispute untill the JR is settled
- to a degree it takes the wind out of the new protest group sails - it is not however a panic or pressured response to it (it was a small protest group meeting for first time, really going to cause such a statement? really?)
- it could also be read as the clock is ticking that SISU have a short time span in which to bring the club back, there are others interested in the stadium and the opportunity wont be there for ever
Yes it is a political statement but is it really any thing other than expected?
- it is clearly a bargaining position of sorts but dont read in to it that the freehold is for sale. Council prepared to talk but its up to SISU to make the approach. Pretty much what has gone on at the Higgs centre and what ACL are saying at the Ricoh. So consistent in a sense. It puts the ball in SISU's court
- It says that anyone who doesnt have real substance need not approach and that well meaning or self publicising individuals are not helpful
- One issue that is put around is that the Council wont talk or consider a deal with SISU. I believe that forms part of the JR application. Clearly AL is saying they will talk to anyone prepared to deal in a fair way (that includes SISU). It counters the statements and sentiments of previous council leader to some degree
- It shows faith and support for what is being done by ACL, whilst seeming to be concilliatory to other parties. They want CCFC back at the Ricoh but it isnt at any price, the world will still turn without them.
- yes there are emotive parts to it ..... why not?
- it says there will not be detailed statements from the CCC on the dispute untill the JR is settled
- to a degree it takes the wind out of the new protest group sails - it is not however a panic or pressured response to it (it was a small protest group meeting for first time, really going to cause such a statement? really?)
- it could also be read as the clock is ticking that SISU have a short time span in which to bring the club back, there are others interested in the stadium and the opportunity wont be there for ever
Yes it is a political statement but is it really any thing other than expected?
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skybluefred
New Member
I think the (I WILL NOT SHORTCHANGE THEM) Is aimed at the Council tax payers--not sisu.
Hugh Jarse
Well-Known Member
C'mon Ann, you wrote it!
Read the statement then read between the lines of it and you will see that what I've written is correct.
Read the statement then read between the lines of it and you will see that what I've written is correct.
skybluefred
New Member
The aim of the 800 surely is to sell the Ricoh to sisu, I am not one of them and never will be.
Hobo
Well-Known Member
Another wonderful one liner from Fernandopartridge?
Well at least Anne Lucas has been a season ticket holder for years, before she even got elected I think.
The nearest your beloved Joy can get is how she feels for the fans because she is a Christian and football is a religion.
No need to worry about gas prices this winter we can all warm ourselves on the glow off Joys empathy.
Anne Lucas statement seems pretty straight down the line. But it shows they are still willing to negotiate...SISU?
olderskyblue
Well-Known Member
maybe, but NS was spreading crap awhile ago about AL not attending a meeting with some no mark, which was not in any way helpful. I think those words will now become an "end note" for anything Nikki has to say now..
sky blue zam
Member
with ann lucas saying she would like to see ccfc back at the ricoh by christmas, would this mean that plans are set up for something to happen after christmas
RoboCCFC90
Well-Known Member
I realise that however 'shortchange' doesn't imply that they aren't willing to talk to SISU about agreeing a fair price for the Arena in my opinion.
italiahorse
Well-Known Member
You need to explain as all is says really is they want us back.
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Jack Griffin
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The politicians are maintaining a united front.
Just a pity the fans can't.
italiahorse
Well-Known Member
You need to read it again then .........
ohitsaidwalker king power
Well-Known Member
or the owners- for it is them that took it away...... open your eyes...please....
Otis
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Astute
Well-Known Member
the reading part of it is easy. It is understanding the words he is having a problem with
skybluetony176
Well-Known Member
now i'm confused. do you want ccfc back at the ricoh or just anybody as a sitting resident. because if its ccfc you want back at the ricoh then it has everything to do with SISU, them being the owners and all that.
shmmeee
Well-Known Member
90% in support of a Sixfields boycott is pretty good.
duffer
Well-Known Member
Well it's probably best to get that issue resolved before there are too many more statements from the Council then, eh?
And talking abour detriment, it's absolutely proven in a court of law that ACL have suffered a 'detriment' at the hands of SISU, this as a result of their failure to pay the rent that was contractually due.
And The football club was CCFC Ltd - how much of a detriment has that entity endured under it's owners. If there's one thing that's crystal clear it's that the 'club' has suffered massively at the hands of it's current owners.