It came from SISU, they said they want to model their (fictional) new stadium on Rotherham's, which holds 12,000 and took four years to build. The fact is they have not moved on and never will do until they have wrung dry ever legal process to distress and under-value ACL. You seem to be very picky about which facts you listen to at the moment - maybe it is just optimism?!
SCG Meeting Notes - 30.10.13 (19 Viewers)
- Thread starter kingharvest
- Start date
It came from SISU, they said they want to model their (fictional) new stadium on Rotherham's, which holds 12,000 and took four years to build. The fact is they have not moved on and never will do until they have wrung dry ever legal process to distress and under-value ACL. You seem to be very picky about which facts you listen to at the moment - maybe it is just optimism?!
D
Deleted member 5849
Guest
No, what came from SISU was a size of 18,000
J
Jack Griffin
Guest
Interesting, do you know the new HS2 interchange is close to the edge of that radius. Just another mile & they can join in the feeding frenzy by moving to Chelmsley Wood & becoming Birmingham's 3rd team.. just a thought.. not saying it will happen, but I can believe SISU would do it if they thought it benefited them.
Broken Hearted Sky Blue
Well-Known Member
Err NO
D
Deleted member 5849
Guest
8 miles is rather extreme.
It's on my house, for a start!
It's on my house, for a start!
Broken Hearted Sky Blue
Well-Known Member
Like you did for the charity game I presume?
italiahorse
Well-Known Member
Yes, eventually ........ £20M gets you started at 12,000 based on TF reference to Rotherham as an example.
I guess expansion will pit you unto the 18,000 although Rotherham is quote 20,000.
I suppose if you settle for 20,000 then 18,000 is not far off.
We will be established at L1 level with the dizzy heights of the Championship as a goal.
Nick
Administrator
Yep but that was at least ccfc related, wasn't it?
Nick
Administrator
It is all rumors at the minute, I take nothing as fact.
No future with SISU
New Member
With 1,600 paying customers, i think ACL called their bluff. Do you think they are holding all the aces?
Broken Hearted Sky Blue
Well-Known Member
Yes but it was at the Ricoh and just remind me do CCFC play there ?
kingharvest
New Member
I'm not sure there are even any aces in the pack!
D
Deleted member 5849
Guest
No, what came from SISU was a starting size of 18,000
shmmeee
Well-Known Member
Apologies if I'm coming across as one of those people, but I'm sure you can understand how frustrating it is to be a "normal" fan who doesn't get invited to these things then sees the same PR line peddled (through no fault of your own) and really important questions not get answered. As Steve says, Fisher can be a slippery fish to pin down, but personally I'm interested in the particular brand of slipperiness as much as any answer.
shmmeee
Well-Known Member
Missed this, when did they say that?
No future with SISU
New Member
You will not get a 18,000 seater stadium for £20m unless you rip off the construction company.
Nick
Administrator
Not now no and I guess that day made me see I didn't really care about ex players or anything else and it had no feeling at all
I thought I would go as an alternative after it was bigged up, I didn't go to support acl I just wanted to watch football
D
Deleted member 5849
Guest
I just quoted it above, but everyone chooses to ignore it because it doesn't suit a particular agenda!
Really, the masses have decided 12,000, so 12,000 it will be.
Given they've offered a big enough stick to beat them with (8 miles is a long way) why on earth bother making up fabrications that they said 12,000 when they said it would be modelled on Rotherham's (i.e. the modular expandable construction) with a starting capacity of 18,000?
J
Jack Griffin
Guest
Fisher said 18,000 was enough attendance, I presume that means when fully extended as I'm pretty sure a lower figure initial was mentioned at the July forums.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...n-groundshare-deal-with-coventry-8705173.html
D
Deleted member 5849
Guest
No it doesn't. 18,000... Then if things go well over time, it grows.
He even said elsewhere (in one of the tediously repetitive radio interviews) that he had no idea where 12,000 came from, 18,000 was the start figure.
He even said elsewhere (in one of the tediously repetitive radio interviews) that he had no idea where 12,000 came from, 18,000 was the start figure.
It shouldn't be rumours though should it, it's Plan A. None of the 'rumours' that they have so far put out there regarding the new stadium have come anywhere near being factual. It's all false - we have bought a new site, we are close to buying 4 sites, we have a preferred site, we are buying a site in 8 weeks. We do not posture or filibuster. Blah blah blah. Sorry I'm sick to the back teeth of their rubbish. Just because they moved the club to Northampton and we didn't think they would am I supposed to listen to at least 3 years of crap?
shmmeee
Well-Known Member
I honestly missed it, when was that from? This meeting? I need to go to bed...
So (knowing nothing about stadium costing) wouldn't that mean it'd cost more than Rotherham's or does a 50% capacity increase not increase costs by the same proportion?
italiahorse
Well-Known Member
Then £20M will not be enough. Where did Sisu say 18,000 was a start and not a finish?
I don't really know, i'm just going on Rotherham's stadium which is what TF quotes as a shining example.
It does not add up.
Broken Hearted Sky Blue
Well-Known Member
Not now no and I guess that day made me see I didn't really care about ex players or anything else and it had no feeling at all
I thought I would go as an alternative after it was bigged up, I didn't go to support acl I just wanted to watch football
Thats all I want to do so cut the crap out of your posts about the people who want Sisu out
D
Deleted member 5849
Guest
Fucking hell.
I'm out.
You've all decided something so you'll stick to it no matter what.
SISU OUT!
NOPM!
ad infinitum.
I'm out.
You've all decided something so you'll stick to it no matter what.
SISU OUT!
NOPM!
ad infinitum.
Broken Hearted Sky Blue
Well-Known Member
Modular expansion costs more than building a ground with the final capacity
"Attendance? Around 18,000, and I will argue that 18,000 is enough. Then if things go well over time, it grows."
Broken Hearted Sky Blue
Well-Known Member
Correct:wave:
Nick
Administrator
Are you reading something I'm not?
Broken Hearted Sky Blue
Well-Known Member
Obviously
italiahorse
Well-Known Member
That was some time ago. Last nights information was £20M and £5M for land.
Obviously things are worse than planned. NOPM?
SISU : Announce a 12,000 stadium and I'm gone.
skybluefred
New Member
I doubt it would be league 1, I think a downward spiral would coincide with a dramatic fall in attendance figures from
the dizzy heights of circa 1,500 to below 1,000.
skybluefred
New Member
Especially with the ground being only a third full at best.
Sky Blues
Active Member
Not sure I can be bothered to read all the way through the thread to work out why you guys are arguing about the capacity of the supposed new-build ground, but both figures have been floating around in the media..
In June, Mr Fisher is quoted in the Independent as saying: "The model is Rotherham's New York Stadium, it's a great stadium. It's modular so it grows as the club grows. Attendance? Around 18,000, and I will argue that 18,000 is enough. Then if things go well over time, it grows."
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...n-groundshare-deal-with-coventry-8705173.html
In October, an article by Les Reid stated: "Sisu’s boss Joy Seppala – in an exclusive Telegraph interview – insisted the club was “not for sale” and Sisu is looking for a return on funders’ investment by adding value to the business. It will come, she claims, from either acquiring the council-owned Ricoh freehold and surrounding development land to support club revenues; or from building a new stadium (potentially £25m, initially 12,000-capacity) with surrounding commercial land outside the Coventry border within five years."
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/news-opinion/could-ricoh-arena-sold-coventry-6191587
In June, Mr Fisher is quoted in the Independent as saying: "The model is Rotherham's New York Stadium, it's a great stadium. It's modular so it grows as the club grows. Attendance? Around 18,000, and I will argue that 18,000 is enough. Then if things go well over time, it grows."
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...n-groundshare-deal-with-coventry-8705173.html
In October, an article by Les Reid stated: "Sisu’s boss Joy Seppala – in an exclusive Telegraph interview – insisted the club was “not for sale” and Sisu is looking for a return on funders’ investment by adding value to the business. It will come, she claims, from either acquiring the council-owned Ricoh freehold and surrounding development land to support club revenues; or from building a new stadium (potentially £25m, initially 12,000-capacity) with surrounding commercial land outside the Coventry border within five years."
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/news-opinion/could-ricoh-arena-sold-coventry-6191587