Mary_Mungo_Midge
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An interview with TF reported in the Telegraph? And you're viewing this as a bastion of integrity for what reason?
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An interview with TF reported in the Telegraph? And you're viewing this as a bastion of integrity for what reason?
Doesn't it depend just a little bit on what new information comes out?
There was a lot of strong calls for the administrator to investigate deep into the actions of present and former ccfc directors. So naturally we welcome an investigation into this part of the mess too?
It's what they base the entire JR on ...
Corporate greed and reputations. That is what this is all about, coupled with our twisted legal system lining their own pockets at every opportunity. Quite frankly it must be making the ordinary man on the street nauseous !
Hobo
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Just the same hamster trying to do two jobs. Have a little sympathy.
thaiskyblue
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nikki sinclair and bollocks , not any more.
bigfatronssba
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I wonder what they did with them after they were removed? Dog food factory?
lapsed_skyblue
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Earrings? Provided they were a matched pair, of course.
skybluetony176
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and not as big as the management fees that we were put into liquidation for by our own, owners.
however you seem to be OK with the larger non-quantified debt that crippled the club.
James Smith
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skybluetony176
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CCC and higgs would have to admit to this "joint" venture 1st or Sh1tsu would need to prove it, if neither of them happened you could argue that ACL have a case against Sh1tsu as one of their directors has publicly admitted this, apparently.
if it did happen and all parties admit it, could it be cause for optomism. as it seems that all parties are willing to work together, they are just yet to follow through with this.
Yes - although I do believe there's an earlier interview where he says much the same thing. but this will do - just scroll down to question 9 and read. There is the basis for the JR explained in pretty simple terms even I can understand.
skybluetony176
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yeah, he doesn't actually say that they had agreed to distress ACl along with CCC & higgs. he says they had agreed to put both businesses on an even keal, not the same thing
James Smith
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The Trust have issued a statement http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/ne...sky-blue-trust-following-6355424?mobile=false
Trust said:
His vision would sound to me like he only has one eye obscured by a helmet. Sorry.
God I love that word. Bellend!
I agree with this too, it also allows time for any local political shifts to take place. They are still playing the same game, I really don't like it anymore
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trueskyblue2222
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I AM HERE! until nick bans me again!!!
i remember informing all of you that sisu simply needed to re-apply for JR. i was called every name under the sun!
the council (like i told you last time) will lose this battle, and they together with ACL will lose around £17 to £24 million. ACL will be out of business - in come SISU!! they are a hedge fund - this is they're professionalism!! they are good at it - Coventry council messed with the wrong lot this time!!
back in the Ricoh by Christmas? no chance. owning the Ricoh by Christmas 2014 put your house on it.
the sooner the better huh! glad to see many folks seeing the council for what they are now. scumbags
Astute
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Are you still a solicitor who hasn't a clue about capital letters or who hasn't a clue on the difference of they're and their?
Still full of shit I see.
Delboycov
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Perhaps those rejoicing in today's decision could explain exactly how it benefits CCFC? Surely all it does is to prolong our absence from our home city and will increase our chances of dropping further down the leagues due to FFP and us being unable to compete financially at the level we're at? The court case and appeals could drag on for months or even years and there is every chance the end result could be there will ne no need to pay any loans back...we'll be further in debt and our demise will probably have continued. How could anyone professing to be a CCFC fan be happy with that? I've seen some good comments from many who have quite rightly questioned ACL/CCC's part in all this but they don't seem to be rejoicing at this news as they can't see what's in it for us...and by us I mean CCFC not SISU. Maybe some 'fans' just hate CCC more than they love the club....
I concur with everything you say but am not prepared to blame either CCC or ACL for the mess in which we find ourselves. Yes, the rent was excessive BUT Shitzu should have dealt with that a very long time ago. An offer of substantially reduced rent was made some time ago and not taken up. I know that some people regard this offer as questionable but common sense tells us that if they had wanted to Shitzu could easily have accepted it. In short, I believe that all this shit has been created by Shitzu for one purpose and one purpose only.
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I can't see what's in it for us, as much because what you say, the winners lose also.
If (still think it's unlikely) their case is upheld however, I'd have been very pleased they actually pursued it, as it would indeed suggest the club had been pushed out.
And that would not be good, it might also get fans onside behind the club again. That might be good.
Alas it'll take forever to get a result, then there'll undoubtedly be an appeal after that, so forever and a day to get a result.
What it may do however, is focus minds to reach a settlement out of court, it might actually push towards a resolution. Now there's a prospect of an actual case to defend, it might open the door to a compromise to avoid that.
That's not rejoicing though, any more than it'd be crazy to rejoice had the council won this round. The whole thing's hardly worth celebrating, as one financial entity sets itself up against another. Are there many rejoicing? There's the usual suspect, but he's an, errrm, mentalist anyway!
And if the club had indeed been pushed out (again, i repeat I'd be surprised if SISU won the actual case) I'd like to know that. If SISU do have a winnable case, they should absolutely be allowed to win it. Unfortunately it's only after the event that we know whether the fight was worthwhile. If it focusses minds on resolution rather than fighting however, that's not necessarily a bad thing...
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Delboycov
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There's no doubt in my mind Tony where the lion's share of the blame lies...we are at the lowest ebb in our history largely because of the mismanagement of SISU. I don't think the other parties have come out of this with their reputations untarnished however and I still really don't understand why the CVA was rejected as that doesn't appear to have achieved anything other than give us a 10 point deduction.I have grown to hate SISU with a passion...something that has been cemented with them taking us away from our city which no matter what happens now I will never forgive them for...I honestly don't believe that any of them give a shiny shit about the fans or how their mind games have divided us like never before in our history.
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There are no winners, only bigger losers.
Delboycov
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I agree with that NW but I really don't feel confident it will focus minds on reaching a resolution particularly if SISU's aim is to distress ACL and force them to have to pay the £14M loan back...I would've thought CCC would be encouraged by the comments of the 1st judge and might fight it to the end...the process could take a very long time! I think it depends on the resolve of both and how desperate they are to reach an agreement...if both dig their heels we can kiss goodbye to watching our team in Coventry for the forseeable...
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Not disagreeing!
Unfortunately this is the Catch 22 isn't it? Flush everything out in the courts is maybe the only way long term we as fans can find resolution as much as anything, at least it gets us away from provocative press releases from both sides, and onto the facts.
What's left as and after they do that however...!
Delboycov
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If we're still playing 35 miles away in a few years to come while they're carrying on fighting each other to the death to get the Ricoh there will certainly be a lot less fans left that's for sure!
covmark
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congratulations, you've managed to do what I thought was impossible. You've united every poster on this forum.
Because we all think you're a complete tosspot.
Coventry council didn't mess with SISU - SISU said sell the Ricoh to us at our price or we will tie you up in expensive litigation. To me that is SISU messing with an elected body. The council should not be involved with the Ricoh, but up until now I haven't seen a valid alternative. The door is, apparently, open to anyone with a serious and sustainable plan. SISU do not come into this category based on past experience. Trying to win a JR against the owners of the freehold won't help their case as potential purchasers either. I don't see the council as generous angels in this saga, but the term "scumbags" would appear to fit SISU better.