MichaelCCFC
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Latest kcic update including results from Survey of CCFC Fans now at www.keepcovincov.weebly.com
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fernandopartridge
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How many regularly attended matches anyway prior to this season?
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tbf, common sense says that answer was likely anyway. Crowds have been on a downward trend anyway, and pretty likely they'd have been down this season if we were in the Ricoh anyway.
At a quick glance most of the answers seem to tally with the 'common sense' impression. Ido have one question about methodology that interested me, and hopefully Michael accepts I ask this out of curiosity
but I did wonder why the different scaling to different questions? I'd have expected either a consistent five or seven point scale?
At a quick glance most of the answers seem to tally with the 'common sense' impression. Ido have one question about methodology that interested me, and hopefully Michael accepts I ask this out of curiosity
but I did wonder why the different scaling to different questions? I'd have expected either a consistent five or seven point scale?
Philosoraptor
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Two National sports editors and a survey now disagree with what is being put out by local news. Could someone pleasse explain to me what is going on?
fernandopartridge
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I said before that it'd be useful to see the questions linked, i.e. is a respondent over the age of 50 more or less likely to go to Sixfields etc. This survey doesn't tell you that though the trends do seem to fit.
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Yeah, that's where you'd go into way more depth, and tbf to Michael that's where it starts to become aproper research project, as opposed to just a quick way of getting some headline figures.
You're right though, would be interesting to see if theproportion of 'blame' shifts across demographics too.
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You're deliberately reading that to suit your agenda.
I for example voted for yes to a Phoenix club, but next season too soon... as if our club dies or moves permanently, then as far as I'm concerned a Phoenix club has to happen.
That's entirely different to saying yes to one now!
fernandopartridge
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40% support the idea but 0% have done anything at all about it.
100% support the idea but as long as somebody else does the work - they want to just turn up as they do with the existing CCFC.
bigfatronssba
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Sign up to the email then.
‘AFC Coventry’
The survey shows that there is no consensus on this but there is some support. A new mailing list will therefore be set up specifically relating to ‘AFC Coventry’ for those who are interested. So if you would like to receive updates about this please email [email protected] and as the subject put ‘AFC’.
Specs WT-R75
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I was surprised that 40.2% think council at fault or equally responsible...
...what I mean from this is that I don't think the council have had 40% of our anger. I think the council should be put under more pressure to try and get involved in meaningful discussions to resolve this whether this is discussion on the sale of freehold or 100yr peppercorn lease.... or to suggest some plots of land in the boundaries of the city etc.
...what I mean from this is that I don't think the council have had 40% of our anger. I think the council should be put under more pressure to try and get involved in meaningful discussions to resolve this whether this is discussion on the sale of freehold or 100yr peppercorn lease.... or to suggest some plots of land in the boundaries of the city etc.
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Hobo
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Agreed Northern, my train of thought and the way I voted too.
RoboCCFC90
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23.5% Fans would not support an AFC Coventry team.. :thinking about:
Rob S
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Interesting. I don't think the survey is massively indicative (if only down to the fact it is a self-selecting sample) but, if we assume that the majority of respondents were from the KCIC/NOPM mailing list which has a more anti-SISU focus, this could be a significant number.
Good work but take internet surveys with a pinch of salt. That said, it would be good to see if anything could be done to get a more representative survey via the media / local govt. to build on this start.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2010/04/study-group-issues-a-warning-on-optin-online-surveys/
stupot07
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Yep, same as me, although I really don't know if the worst was to happen that my heart would be in it.
If you look at it the other way only c30% would support one next season and only at the Ricoh. How much would setting up a breakaway AFC in competition of ccfc alienate the other 70% in the long run? To me it would be further driving a wedge through the fanbase.
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Yup, it's also a question where you need vastly more than 50% to be in favour, you need a very large proportion in favour...
Otherwise you just divide a fanbase and condemn two clubs to failure, rather than just one!
Would It end In failure for both ? TBH I don't know but the thing that fascinates me around this whole question Is the possibility of galvanising the passion in either entity ,possibly growing football awareness and following within the City.Possibly, unlikely but the only other example I can think of Is Liverpool /Everton and look where that ended up.
Broken Hearted Sky Blue
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hill83
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We need to establish what people mean by 'support' really. I've got loads of mates who 'support' Man Utd but have never been.
To me support means to actually go to games. (I wouldn't say this season is normal so don't count this season as I don't go)
So supporting the idea of AFC coventry, I'd say yes in theory, but actually support as in actually go? No chance for me.
To me support means to actually go to games. (I wouldn't say this season is normal so don't count this season as I don't go)
So supporting the idea of AFC coventry, I'd say yes in theory, but actually support as in actually go? No chance for me.
If it helps, Ive had a season ticket since 1972. I wont go to Sixfields again, and I wont go to a home game with SISU in charge. They are just taking the piss. Be at every away game though. Wasnt anti SISU but I am now.
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Jack Griffin
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Interestingly only 44.7% live in Coventry.....,
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A lot of Cov fans in Leamington, Warwick, Kenilworth, Bedworth, Nuneaton etc.. they don't live in Coventry.
Might Indicate why a new Stadium could end up situated to the west of the City ,Bagington.
CCFCChadders
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Confused at the 34.9% of people who think the council/ACL are equally at fault, ACL offered the club free rent which SISU turned down and a new rental deal in the summer, which they also turned down. SISU don't seem to be interested in the well being of the club as shown through there hunger for ownership of the ground which outweighs the desire of the fans, hence why we're are not playing in our community where we belong. Not to mention there top dog has admitted she knows fuck all about football. As for the 5.3% who think it's mostly/all the council or ACL's fault I think you need to seriously have a rethink...
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Well, a few of John Mutton's statements are a helpful start in that. Especially like "I don't think we will be able to help while there is a hedge fund involved" as a quote...
ccfcway
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and many dont live in any of those.
Makes me laugh when some say "one of the reasons why attendance is down in Northampton is that its too far away"
CCFCChadders
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Everything so far points to him being right for me, the council can do nothing except sell them ownership in their eyes it seems and they obviously don't mind losing a bit of cash, if it means ownership will eventually be achieved.
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Yeah, there's nothing like setting up in opposition to the club's owners, and chanting SISU Out with the best of them, while making overtures to a Texan property developer backed by the failures of the past... to foster a constructive working dialogue.
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Anyway, back to the survey, and not surprising a fair proportion live outside the city. The people who do are more likely, after all, to embrace the internet fully to get their CCFC fix, where cyber space becomes a substitute for geographic space
Broken Hearted Sky Blue
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Correct, except after all this has happened continue with the dialogue until the owners of the clubs ask the other party to help them convince their membership to travel to Northampton, and when this is rightly rejected then stop the dialogue.
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Jack Griffin
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I thought it was Elliott & Hoffman that found PH4 & introduced him.
Grendel
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The slant in your commentary clearly shows where you wanted the survey to go but the results must have embarrassed you.
It shows 45% of a survey advertised mostly on here blame the council at least as much as the owners.
Brilliant - Grendel proved right yet again.
ohitsaidwalker king power
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Does it not state.
A clear majority of those who voted in the survey (57.7%) said the current situation facing CCFC is all or mainly the fault of sisu and only a very small minority (5.3%) said it is all or mainly the fault of ACL/Coventry City Council while 34.9% said sisu and ACL/Coventry City Council are equally at fault.
ohitsaidwalker king power
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and
A very large majority (68.7%) said they do not believe sisu will build a new stadium and only a tiny minority (2.2%) believe they will, while 22.7% believe sisu will build a new stadium if they are unable to buy the Ricoh.
A very large majority (68.7%) said they do not believe sisu will build a new stadium and only a tiny minority (2.2%) believe they will, while 22.7% believe sisu will build a new stadium if they are unable to buy the Ricoh.