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skybluesam66

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this is the day sisu pulled the plug
28000 in the ricoh for a home match - city 4th in the championship - yet they called it a day

from 4th, we finished 18th ranson/hoffman/elliott gone

and went down the following year
then the debacle of the last 2 years

what happened to make them pull the plug at the highest point.
Is this when it stopped being about football, and only about the battle for the ricoh

why that day
what happened - and is it all falling in line with their plan since, or did they expect they could still generate revenues, without investment or customers
 
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RFC

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skybluesam66 said:
this is the day sisu pulled the plug
28000 in the ricoh for a home match - city 4th in the championship - yet they called it a day

from 4th, we finished 18th ranson/hoffman/elliott gone

and went down the following year
then the debacle of the last 2 years

what happened to make them pull the plug at the highest point.
Is this when it stopped being about football, and only about the battle for the ricoh

why that day
what happened - and is it all falling in line with their plan since, or did they expect they could still generate revenues, without investment or customers
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Very interesting post, please refresh my memory! Who did we play that day and why do you see that as the "turning point"?
 
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skybluesam66

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leeds at home 3-2 . This was the day sisu told the football board to cut the playing budget . it was then all down hill. Ranson and hoffman could not support that regime any longer , and so left soon after
 
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RFC

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Don't recall or have any knowledge of that 'skybluesam', you have the advantage of me there but you could well be right?
 
Sky Blue Kid

Sky Blue Kid

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@ skybluesam66.....................At last! Someone who reiterates what I've always said about Ranson and the "Hoff" ;)
 
Grendel

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skybluesam66 said:
leeds at home 3-2 . This was the day sisu told the football board to cut the playing budget . it was then all down hill. Ranson and hoffman could not support that regime any longer , and so left soon after
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It was no different to the previous season. We finished lower in fact.
 
sky blue john

sky blue john

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I put it down to the banking market crash. Investments lost billions and everybody panicked including the clubs owners. This is not fact but that was all going on at the time and my assumption.
 
hill83

hill83

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What could actually happen on the 6th November though? It's not in the transfer window for a start.
Sisu have fucked up, but this is looking like a daily mail headline to me.
 
Grendel

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sky blue john said:
I put it down to the banking market crash. Investments lost billions and everybody panicked including the clubs owners. This is not fact but that was all going on at the time and my assumption.
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I put it down to employing a buffoon like ranson and swallowing his "master plan" of employing an Armani suited clown as a manager and sanctioning the signing of dross after dross on budget busting salaries.
 
Hobo

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Grendel said:
It was no different to the previous season. We finished lower in fact.
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I don't think Skybluesam66 is basing it purely on final league position though is he? He is stating a marked change in direction from SISU, resulting in a change in several board members.

It's an interesting point, anyone know any more?
 
sky blue john

sky blue john

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Grendel said:
I put it down to employing a buffoon like ranson and swallowing his "master plan" of
employing an Armani suited clown as a manager and sanctioning the signing of dross after dross on budget busting salaries.
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In hindsight yes ranson and Coleman fucked up the best chance we had of getting back to the prem !!!!!
 
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Snozz_is_god

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Coincidentally my personal NOPM campaign began on 6th November 2010

This was the last home league game I went to. I was a season ticket holder the year before and many year before that, but I'd had enough.

At the time I didn't like the Aidy Boothroyd style of play, but it was more than that, I felt the club in general was moving in the wrong direction under the current ownership.

I love love my football club, but I'll not give them a penny more until SISU have gone.

(ok I gave them a fiver for the Crewe game last year, what a disappointment that was)
 
blueflint

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in fairness to ranson he left because they stopped using his plan and sold players against his wishes did ransom pick coleman or was it a forced decision from owners
 
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SkyBlueScottie

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This was the day Bothroyd started to lose his grip on the dressing room. The daggers were already out as McSheffrey had been previously dropped (returned and went on a little scoring run) however by not substituting Turner who was cleary injured I think the whisper campaign started against him.

Its this type of episode that Pressley has avoided by clearing out the dressing room.
 
Grendel

Grendel

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blueflint said:
in fairness to ranson he left because they stopped using his plan and sold players against his wishes did ransom pick coleman or was it a forced decision from owners
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The owners never involved themselves with the club when ranson was in charge. The decision was 100% his - he bought him thorn and Keane in from Fulham.

They stopped using his plan as we were in the bottom 5 and losing millions. Still the players he left us with fulfilled the plan in the end - relegation.
 
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SkyBlueScottie said:
This was the day Bothroyd started to lose his grip on the dressing room. The daggers were already out as McSheffrey had been previously dropped (returned and went on a little scoring run) however by not substituting Turner who was cleary injured I think the whisper campaign started against him.

Its this type of episode that Pressley has avoided by clearing out the dressing room.
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Didn't he injure himself doing the goal line clearance when Westwood had a moment of madness and ran about 30 yards off the line?
 
covcity4life

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hill83 said:
What could actually happen on the 6th November though? It's not in the transfer window for a start.
Sisu have fucked up, but this is looking like a daily mail headline to me.
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foreigners protested to having a club in coventry so sisu had to move. blame it on them! they hate Christmas too dont ya know?
 
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skybluesam66

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so lets say with us 4th in the league - eyeing up the play offs- and january acquisitions to increase the possibility of that - instead SISU said - sorry a) we are not going to invest further and b) we actually want to withdraw funding - expecting revenues to continue at a lower cost base (which more or less happened until the trap door of relegation happened - which i am not sure they were expecting despite being warned)
 
Sky Blue Kid

Sky Blue Kid

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@ Grendel..... The owners never involved themselves with the club when ranson was in charge. The decision was 100% his - he bought him thorn and Keane in from Fulham. They stopped using his plan as we were in the bottom 5 and losing millions. Still the players he left us with fulfilled the plan in the end - relegation. ..............................................................................................................................................Link and proof please :)
 
Moff

Moff

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Sky Blue Kid said:
@ Grendel..... The owners never involved themselves with the club when ranson was in charge. The decision was 100% his - he bought him thorn and Keane in from Fulham. They stopped using his plan as we were in the bottom 5 and losing millions. Still the players he left us with fulfilled the plan in the end - relegation. ..............................................................................................................................................Link and proof please :)
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Only trying to be balanced SBK but if we need a Link and Proof off Grendel, then surely we also need a link and proof from Skybluesam66 who is offering an alternative view, but hasn't backed up his answers as he cant write what he knows.
 
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lordsummerisle

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Snozz_is_god said:
Coincidentally my personal NOPM campaign began on 6th November 2010

This was the last home league game I went to. I was a season ticket holder the year before and many year before that, but I'd had enough.

At the time I didn't like the Aidy Boothroyd style of play, but it was more than that, I felt the club in general was moving in the wrong direction under the current ownership.

I love love my football club, but I'll not give them a penny more until SISU have gone.

(ok I gave them a fiver for the Crewe game last year, what a disappointment that was)
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One of those doing all right then I'll turn up fans then?

Big crowd, disappointing result, mumbles of "same old City" then never seen again til next big game.
 
magic82ball

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I have always seen this game (Leed's at home) as the turning point for us. The club had a real opportunity to kick on in front of a bumber crowd and we were riding a crest of a wave at that point. Might be the romantic in more but felt then as I do now that had we gone on to win that game, and in style, a lot of these supporters would have been back for the next few games to help push us on.

Not sure it was SISU's fault (wont here me say that often) but more of AB and the team not seizing the opportunity in front of them. Had they won and we carried on getting results with bigger crowds, SISU may have taken a different view of the situation and decided to go for it rather than sell everyone.
 
Grendel

Grendel

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lordsummerisle said:
One of those doing all right then I'll turn up fans then?

Big crowd, disappointing result, mumbles of "same old City" then never seen again til next big game.
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He probably only ended his previous NOPM campaign for that game like another 15,000 did.
 
Grendel

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fernandopartridge

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magic82ball said:
I have always seen this game (Leed's at home) as the turning point for us. The club had a real opportunity to kick on in front of a bumber crowd and we were riding a crest of a wave at that point. Might be the romantic in more but felt then as I do now that had we gone on to win that game, and in style, a lot of these supporters would have been back for the next few games to help push us on.

Not sure it was SISU's fault (wont here me say that often) but more of AB and the team not seizing the opportunity in front of them. Had they won and we carried on getting results with bigger crowds, SISU may have taken a different view of the situation and decided to go for it rather than sell everyone.
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AB's plan had been sussed. As it was at Watford and has been at Northampton. I sympathise with SISU going for the cheap option after that in that Ranson had made two appointments, both of them costly and disastrous.
 
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skybluesam66

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Moff said:
Only trying to be balanced SBK but if we need a Link and Proof off Grendel, then surely we also need a link and proof from Skybluesam66 who is offering an alternative view, but hasn't backed up his answers as he cant write what he knows.
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Grendel is largely correct (and only Onye was really involved as a sisu representative) - albeit so much time and effort was wasted in the battles with sisu versus the ongoing day to day running of a football club

And it was only at this time that things changed, and sisu started pulling the strings

Any other time , I understand, but why when we are at our highest ever point in the championship (excluding being at the top after 3/4 games)
 
shmmeee

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skybluesam66 said:
i do know more, but nothing that can be published - lets just say that is when it happened, i just dont know why
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If it's true you can post what you like. Pissing off sources aside.

Even if it's not true, saying it's what you heard isn't illegal.

Go on. You know you want to.
 
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