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Broken Hearted Sky Blue
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Thats not strictly true they invented NOPM
dongonzalos
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I expect we play at a stadium in our home city, where the club themselves agree. That if we agree the rental deal we would make more money and the players then stay.
What do you expect?
dongonzalos
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dongonzalos
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No they have always said it has to be a ridiculous offer.
( for me ridiculous would be 5 times someone's value)
Maybe at the end of this thread I will know what Waggot actually said....
“We possibly could anticipate offers coming in but we have spoken about it, myself and Steve Waggott, and we really have no intention of selling any of the squad unless an offer that we can’t refuse comes in,” said Pressley. “Like every club, and I include the top clubs, every player has a valuation so if we received a ridiculous offer for one of our players then, of course, we’d have to consider it.
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Grendel
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Same as every other football club in the country every player has a price. The irony is sisu are probably the only owners who have not profited from transfers at the club. They have sold less than an average of 2 players a season for a significant fee. This thread is embarrasing.
dongonzalos
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They offered to pay back
What someone had to go to court to ask for?
I take it, this is as straightforward as you say?
dongonzalos
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So what is a descent Offer anyway?
I would expect from there other transactions. It will be an undisclosed fee,
So we may never know.
I thought he spoke pretty well until like every sisu employee interview he mentions ACL cost us 10 points
They are still worried people may blame them for some of this mess we are all in?
There right thou on that account I blame them for all of it.
It is not a descent offer it is a ridiculous offer...
dongonzalos
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letsallsingtogether
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10p is a ridiculous offer does that count?
Nick
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How did you get from decent to ridiculous?
lordsummerisle
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Dongle was once decent??
Astute
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Because Waggott never said previously that any decent offer would be accepted. But they would listen to any ridiculous offer or words to this effect. Have some on here suddenly got Joy's memory?
I would say that hardly anyone has a problem with players being sold. Players get sold, released and also run their contracts down. What most of us have a problem with is players not being replaced. This is the main reason we got relegated. When it looked like we had a decent chance of getting to safety they loaned out our only player that was scoring goals because the deal to sell him wasn't sorted before the transfer window closed. We have a special dispensation to sign one player for every two that leave. These players have not been signed. Our squad isn't big enough. Our defence isn't good enough. We recently played a cup game without a striker as we didn't have a fit one to play. Yet some seem to be happy to let more players go when there are no signs that they will be replaced. We recently went on a losing streak when we had a few injuries. We lost to teams near the bottom of the table. We wouldn't even be in the top 6 even if we hadn't lost 10 points.
jesus-wept
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It isn't how much an offer is it is for who, sell either of Leon Clarke, Callum Wilson, Joe Murphy, Connor Thomas or Robert Fleck and our decent but modest season will peter out and they are the only ones who could attract decent bids. We have Waggot signings Barton, cost £100k and Mansat but either won't attract much if any fee. Carl Baker imo is the most expendable but wouldn't see much more than £200k for him. I fear we may have a very different team come Febuary
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italiahorse
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....but not ALL of the amount owed. At least we can both agree on that!
...and it still hasn't been paid, I believe?
Grendel
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What lease? That lease is now gone as it the company who were paying it is being liquidated. The lease No longer exists.
Astute
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The lease will be gone once LTD has been liquidated and they pay ACL the money that the FL said they had to if they wanted to keep the golden share. The rental agreement still stands until liquidation is completed.
Grendel
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When you say they - who do you mean?
Astute
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And you have the balls to call others uneducated :laugh:
Astute
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Ah I get you Grendull. Not even the biggest SISUE supporter knows what they call the part of the hedge fund that ruins......sorry runs our club these days
Grendel
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Ah I get you Grendull. Not even the biggest SISUE supporter knows what they call the part of the hedge fund that ruins......sorry runs our club these days
I know legal process and facts are not your forte bit the administrator is totally responsible for the process of liquidation and creditor pay out.
Astute
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We all know that Grendull. We also know that with your facts that ACL/CCC are to blame for about everything. The question is what is the holdup? Appleton?
Grendel
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Why does anyone care?
Astute
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You won't because it is something you can't blame on ACL/CCC.
I want it over with so the embargo is lifted. Or shall we keep it going until next season so we lose another 10 points? You could blame ACL again so yes I see your point.
Sky Blue Kid
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Grenduffy..."I know legal process and facts are not your forte"...............................................................................Says Mr "Estimated Facts" LMFAO
Mary_Mungo_Midge
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Two different issues. Yes, we all know players always have to be sold at this level. Understood.
However, SISU assured the FL that they had funds in place to cover any downturn in incomes associated with the move for many years. Citing poor crowds as the reason to sell, barely six months after making those assurances would be a stark about turn.
Read the Telegraph interview with the FL chairman if you want to be clear as to what was said. Then come back here and debate again
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/football-league-chief-stay-away-fans-5738925
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bigfatronssba
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See I read that as "We know sisu haven't really got any money, so please go to games otherwise we're going to look stupid when they go bust again".
Broken Hearted Sky Blue
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WillieStanley
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Sorry, MMM, I didn't hear the Waggott interview. Did he say that players will be going due to the downturn in crowds? If so then yes, bad board. If not then your attempt to condescend me is purely based on an assumption you and others on this thread have made.
If he didn't say it was due to the downturn, how have people jumped to that conclusion? We still need players in and there are still a few who clearly do not fit Pressley's mentality so, it's fine for them to go. Judging by the amount of trialists we've had and the reluctance to use the loan market, we will be signing players. I'd rather go by the "sign the right person or no one at all" than the "Ah crap, it's January - there's a basket to put all my eggs into - quick buy it BUY IT!!" mentality of old.
"We'll fund the losses" does not mean "everything stays exactly the same" does it. That leads to stagnation. We know there's room for improvement in the squad, Pressley knows it, the board know it. They also know that, despite a spiteful 10pt deduction we are a good run away from the play offs and out of this God forsaken league.
Join the dots, then come back here and debate again.
blueflint
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i answered your question why don't you answer mine who stopped paying rent who called in the liquidator who took us to northampton
jesus-wept
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Our current owners sell players have done virtually from the day they arrived. I can't understand the surprise. Having said that Third division clubs sell their best players to higher division clubs always have and we are a mid-table Third division club.
Steve Waggot is employed to buy and sell players and is probably paid on any profit he brings in to the business. So lets not act so surprised when he talks about selling.
Steve Waggot is employed to buy and sell players and is probably paid on any profit he brings in to the business. So lets not act so surprised when he talks about selling.
letsallsingtogether
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He has never answered a question yet because he has no proof as usual, and it goes against all he believes in most of us see the bigger picture same can't be said about Grenduffy.