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[ecky]

Perhaps it would be more beneficial if the club had taken season ticket holders from this season and the last two seasons.

Announced 2-3 dates and then let the fans book the date which suited them best.

This way you would have a broader spectrum of the potential fan base. I would have thought it would have been important to engage season ticket holders we have lost in the last 2-3 years with a project like building a new stadium. Surely the return of these customers is key to the projects success?

sounds like a closed shop to me? why do the sickfields chosen get priority over other fans? Im not a season ticket holder but surely my views are just as important? held a season ticket at the ricoh this obviously means nothing......

 

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[davebart]

Reading the article seems to me that this forum will just be a token jester to try to improve the PR. No discussion about where it maybe just how it will look.

Is it an article or an advert?

 

[SkyBlueHomer]

Is it an article or an advert?

lol. Technically I suppose its an article advertising the forum.

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

@ Grendel....You might be able to come up with some "Estimated Facts" as to where...When(If ever)...Cost of the New Stadium... and when you and Torchy declare your undying love for each other, and run off into the distance together.

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

The new Stadium WILL be in Coventry.................Coventry Connecticut USA..that is!

 

[_brian_]

The new Stadium WILL be in Coventry.................Coventry Connecticut USA..that is!

LOL-bl**dy-tastic!!! Nice one, mate!!!

 

[RFC]

As supporters we are not in the privileged position of selecting the location of our ground. When I started supporting 'The Bantams' (later to become the Sky Blues) played at Highfield Road, it was our 'Home' and as the club progressed it was expanded and redeveloped. The owners of CCFC wanted to develop the ground further but were prevented from doing so by CCC, who wanted the land for housing (they could make much more money from that!).

Highfield Road was easy to get to either by public transport, by car or in fact walking from the City centre.

I didn't want us to move particularly and in my view the location of the ground we moved to wasn't good (poor transport links, inadequate parking and NO station) but I tried to embrace the Ricoh and have been a STH since our move there in 2005. However it's never ever felt like home, I don't believe CCC ever made the football club welcome. They saw the Ricoh more as a commercial venture that would be used more 24/7 (nothing wrong with that) but their priority has always been exhibitions & concerts etc. etc.. CCFC have always come well down the list of priorities as was the case recently when a home game clashed with the Davis Cup! They even insisted that JH's Statue was sited in it's current position instead of where it should be, in a much more central position between the shop & the casino!

Over a period of time (even before our current owners) they have rejected a number of potential buyers, all have insisted on owning the ground if they were to invest in the club. So it's pretty obvious to me that unless CCC change their long term stance, we don't have any chance of moving back to the Ricoh and I for one won't be sorry about that.

The consensus within football in general is that because of rule changes, either the owners or the football club must own their own stadium, after all it's not rocket science is it. Many others have stated the obvious, Ray Ranson, Paul Fletcher and Geoffrey Robinson MP, so with CCC refusing to sell the club or it's owners the Ricoh we have to 'move-on'!

I will be attending the forthcoming meeting and totally support the project of building a new home, both in the long and short term. We must look forward rather than always looking back, the 'blame game' is futile IMHO.

 

[lewys33]

Yes he is, as I am sure Torchy like me would agree that moving back to the Ricoh and Sisu selling up would be a win win, would it not?

fair comment, however it isn't realistic is it? They are not going anywhere!

 

[The Gentleman]

As supporters we are not in the privileged position of selecting the location of our ground. When I started supporting 'The Bantams' (later to become the Sky Blues) played at Highfield Road, it was our 'Home' and as the club progressed it was expanded and redeveloped. The owners of CCFC wanted to develop the ground further but were prevented from doing so by CCC, who wanted the land for housing (they could make much more money from that!).

Highfield Road was easy to get to either by public transport, by car or in fact walking from the City centre.

I didn't want us to move particularly and in my view the location of the ground we moved to wasn't good (poor transport links, inadequate parking and NO station) but I tried to embrace the Ricoh and have been a STH since our move there in 2005. However it's never ever felt like home, I don't believe CCC ever made the football club welcome. They saw the Ricoh more as a commercial venture that would be used more 24/7 (nothing wrong with that) but their priority has always been exhibitions & concerts etc. etc.. CCFC have always come well down the list of priorities as was the case recently when a home game clashed with the Davis Cup! They even insisted that JH's Statue was sited in it's current position instead of where it should be, in a much more central position between the shop & the casino!

Over a period of time (even before our current owners) they have rejected a number of potential buyers, all have insisted on owning the ground if they were to invest in the club. So it's pretty obvious to me that unless CCC change their long term stance, we don't have any chance of moving back to the Ricoh and I for one won't be sorry about that.

The consensus within football in general is that because of rule changes, either the owners or the football club must own their own stadium, after all it's not rocket science is it. Many others have stated the obvious, Ray Ranson, Paul Fletcher and Geoffrey Robinson MP, so with CCC refusing to sell the club or it's owners the Ricoh we have to 'move-on'!

I will be attending the forthcoming meeting and totally support the project of building a new home, both in the long and short term. We must look forward rather than always looking back, the 'blame game' is futile IMHO.

Thanks for that. Still blaming all parties involved then ? One final thing, you said a few weeks ago that we would be seeing plans in 6-8 weeks, clocks ticking RFC.........

 

[simple_simon]

As supporters we are not in the privileged position of selecting the location of our ground. When I started supporting 'The Bantams' (later to become the Sky Blues) played at Highfield Road, it was our 'Home' and as the club progressed it was expanded and redeveloped. The owners of CCFC wanted to develop the ground further but were prevented from doing so by CCC, who wanted the land for housing (they could make much more money from that!).

Highfield Road was easy to get to either by public transport, by car or in fact walking from the City centre.

I didn't want us to move particularly and in my view the location of the ground we moved to wasn't good (poor transport links, inadequate parking and NO station) but I tried to embrace the Ricoh and have been a STH since our move there in 2005. However it's never ever felt like home, I don't believe CCC ever made the football club welcome. They saw the Ricoh more as a commercial venture that would be used more 24/7 (nothing wrong with that) but their priority has always been exhibitions & concerts etc. etc.. CCFC have always come well down the list of priorities as was the case recently when a home game clashed with the Davis Cup! They even insisted that JH's Statue was sited in it's current position instead of where it should be, in a much more central position between the shop & the casino!

Over a period of time (even before our current owners) they have rejected a number of potential buyers, all have insisted on owning the ground if they were to invest in the club. So it's pretty obvious to me that unless CCC change their long term stance, we don't have any chance of moving back to the Ricoh and I for one won't be sorry about that.

The consensus within football in general is that because of rule changes, either the owners or the football club must own their own stadium, after all it's not rocket science is it. Many others have stated the obvious, Ray Ranson, Paul Fletcher and Geoffrey Robinson MP, so with CCC refusing to sell the club or it's owners the Ricoh we have to 'move-on'!

I will be attending the forthcoming meeting and totally support the project of building a new home, both in the long and short term. We must look forward rather than always looking back, the 'blame game' is futile IMHO.

Our club is almost dead and all you are promoting is a slow and painful death.

The location by the way is Exhall/ Hawksbury village, Sephton Road. If they ever actually get planning permission but might still buy the land.

 

[torchomatic]

Ha! Highlight my post #11. I knew you'd use the "estimated facts" reply.

@ Grendel....You might be able to come up with some "Estimated Facts" as to where...When(If ever)...Cost of the New Stadium... and when you and Torchy declare your undying love for each other, and run off into the distance together.

 

[Grendel]

@ Grendel....You might be able to come up with some "Estimated Facts" as to where...When(If ever)...Cost of the New Stadium... and when you and Torchy declare your undying love for each other, and run off into the distance together.

Ill come round your house if you like to watch all the Sixfields games. I'm sure they are all being beamed to your house. That way I can support NOPM and see all the games. Win win PMe your address it'll be a great craic.

 

[Grendel]

Ha! Highlight my post #11. I knew you'd use the "estimated facts" reply.

It's replaced the jerkit sign as his catchphrase.

 

[AJB1983]

As supporters we are not in the privileged position of selecting the location of our ground. When I started supporting 'The Bantams' (later to become the Sky Blues) played at Highfield Road, it was our 'Home' and as the club progressed it was expanded and redeveloped. The owners of CCFC wanted to develop the ground further but were prevented from doing so by CCC, who wanted the land for housing (they could make much more money from that!).

Highfield Road was easy to get to either by public transport, by car or in fact walking from the City centre.

I didn't want us to move particularly and in my view the location of the ground we moved to wasn't good (poor transport links, inadequate parking and NO station) but I tried to embrace the Ricoh and have been a STH since our move there in 2005. However it's never ever felt like home, I don't believe CCC ever made the football club welcome. They saw the Ricoh more as a commercial venture that would be used more 24/7 (nothing wrong with that) but their priority has always been exhibitions & concerts etc. etc.. CCFC have always come well down the list of priorities as was the case recently when a home game clashed with the Davis Cup! They even insisted that JH's Statue was sited in it's current position instead of where it should be, in a much more central position between the shop & the casino!

Over a period of time (even before our current owners) they have rejected a number of potential buyers, all have insisted on owning the ground if they were to invest in the club. So it's pretty obvious to me that unless CCC change their long term stance, we don't have any chance of moving back to the Ricoh and I for one won't be sorry about that.

The consensus within football in general is that because of rule changes, either the owners or the football club must own their own stadium, after all it's not rocket science is it. Many others have stated the obvious, Ray Ranson, Paul Fletcher and Geoffrey Robinson MP, so with CCC refusing to sell the club or it's owners the Ricoh we have to 'move-on'!

I will be attending the forthcoming meeting and totally support the project of building a new home, both in the long and short term. We must look forward rather than always looking back, the 'blame game' is futile IMHO.

I'm sorry but you're just wrong. CCFC always came first at Ricoh, a number of events wre turned down because of football fixtures.
How you can possibly say the Ricoh had poor transport links (sat on the major a-road through coventry, less than 2 miles from m6, direct bus route from city centre) and inadequate parking (3 massive car parks) is frankly beyond ridiculous.

 

[xxccfcxx]

Our club is almost dead and all you are promoting is a slow and painful death.

The location by the way is Exhall/ Hawksbury village, Sephton Road. If they ever actually get planning permission but might still buy the land.

Is this a guess or do you actually know something ?

 

[Sky Blue Dal]

I think anyone attending should give full support and get behind the building of this stadium, push for dates and make it ASAP.

I think the stadium will not happen, it's a bluff, the club will be back at the Ricoh just a case of when, but in the meantime push for the new stadium to be built and call that bluff.

My sentiments exactly!!!

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

@ Torchy....Like you always use the "Live stream" postings is it?...and @ Grenduffy...I thought you and Torchy were an item? I don't "Two Time" You're both a match made in heaven...One "Estimates" everything..and the other changes his mind more times than Leon scores goals. Lmfao!

 

[Hobo]

As supporters we are not in the privileged position of selecting the location of our ground. When I started supporting 'The Bantams' (later to become the Sky Blues) played at Highfield Road, it was our 'Home' and as the club progressed it was expanded and redeveloped. The owners of CCFC wanted to develop the ground further but were prevented from doing so by CCC, who wanted the land for housing (they could make much more money from that!).

Highfield Road was easy to get to either by public transport, by car or in fact walking from the City centre.

I didn't want us to move particularly and in my view the location of the ground we moved to wasn't good (poor transport links, inadequate parking and NO station) but I tried to embrace the Ricoh and have been a STH since our move there in 2005. However it's never ever felt like home, I don't believe CCC ever made the football club welcome. They saw the Ricoh more as a commercial venture that would be used more 24/7 (nothing wrong with that) but their priority has always been exhibitions & concerts etc. etc.. CCFC have always come well down the list of priorities as was the case recently when a home game clashed with the Davis Cup! They even insisted that JH's Statue was sited in it's current position instead of where it should be, in a much more central position between the shop & the casino!

Over a period of time (even before our current owners) they have rejected a number of potential buyers, all have insisted on owning the ground if they were to invest in the club. So it's pretty obvious to me that unless CCC change their long term stance, we don't have any chance of moving back to the Ricoh and I for one won't be sorry about that.

The consensus within football in general is that because of rule changes, either the owners or the football club must own their own stadium, after all it's not rocket science is it. Many others have stated the obvious, Ray Ranson, Paul Fletcher and Geoffrey Robinson MP, so with CCC refusing to sell the club or it's owners the Ricoh we have to 'move-on'!

I will be attending the forthcoming meeting and totally support the project of building a new home, both in the long and short term. We must look forward rather than always looking back, the 'blame game' is futile IMHO.

RFC as much as I have fond memories of HR I don't agree with your analysis. The club needed to move, whether it was done correctly is another matter.

I don't think you can say CCC never made us welcome at the Ricoh. Without them it wouldn't of happened. Once the clubs fortunes slid, yes the rent needed addressing.

Putting all that to one side as it's been debated enough, I'll state why I'm not convinced about the New Stadium Proposals.

Let's take Fisher at his word, he informed ACL of the treat to move and build there own stadium over 12 months ago. Fine.

But such a move/project is dependant on available suitable land, planning permission and the scope to have supporting business developments to provide the much needed revenue streams. To sum that up the success of such a venture hinges entirely on the location of the proposed site.

So I am surprised they have moved prior to making a purchase of a suitable site. This is why I think it is all about trying to distress ACL and holding the Club as hostage to try and gain a suitable deal for the Ricoh. I don't think SISU have budgeted much beyond this season or next at the most.
Don't expect the project to move very fast if at at.

If however I'm proved wrong and they find suitable land and start building an appropriate stadium; despite my mistrust of SISU business practises I would still support us acquiring a suitable home, although I believe that is still the Ricoh.

 

[lewys33]

I think anyone attending should give full support and get behind the building of this stadium, push for dates and make it ASAP.

I think the stadium will not happen, it's a bluff, the club will be back at the Ricoh just a case of when, but in the meantime push for the new stadium to be built and call that bluff.

What would that prove though?

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

@ Torchy....Like you always use the "Live stream" postings is it?...and @ Grenduffy...I thought you and Torchy were an item? I don't "Two Time" You're both a match made in heaven...One "Estimates" everything..and the other changes his mind more times than Leon scores goals. Lmfao!

 

[Jack Griffin]

Our club is almost dead and all you are promoting is a slow and painful death.

The location by the way is Exhall/ Hawksbury village, Sephton Road. If they ever actually get planning permission but might still buy the land.

I think I see where you mean, the large undeveloped area just north of Sephton Drive, bordered by the railway on the west and the canal on the east, there is certainly more than 60acres there, but it has bugger all road links, so I don't think it would be a feasible site for a new stadium as it would cost far too much to build a dual carriageway to it, and also just how long would it take to buy all the land on the route of an access road & get planning for that too! Nope mate, it makes very little sense.

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

Grenduffy...It's replaced the jerkit sign as his catchphrase..........................................................Actually, I use it to show what a thick C**T you really are. Only a twat would use estimations as a fact. lolol.

 

[covspain]

RFC said:

"The owners of CCFC wanted to develop the ground further but were prevented from doing so by CCC, who wanted the land for housing (they could make much more money from that!)."

But it's not true. Why do you make stuff up? What's the point'

 

[Rusty Trombone]

RFC said:

"The owners of CCFC wanted to develop the ground further but were prevented from doing so by CCC, who wanted the land for housing (they could make much more money from that!)."

But it's not true. Why do you make stuff up? What's the point'

RFC came out with this nonsense on a thread the other day, I guess he thinks if it is said enough it becomes true.

 

[skybluegnome]

As supporters we are not in the privileged position of selecting the location of our ground. When I started supporting 'The Bantams' (later to become the Sky Blues) played at Highfield Road, it was our 'Home' and as the club progressed it was expanded and redeveloped. The owners of CCFC wanted to develop the ground further but were prevented from doing so by CCC, who wanted the land for housing (they could make much more money from that!).

Highfield Road was easy to get to either by public transport, by car or in fact walking from the City centre.

I didn't want us to move particularly and in my view the location of the ground we moved to wasn't good (poor transport links, inadequate parking and NO station) but I tried to embrace the Ricoh and have been a STH since our move there in 2005. However it's never ever felt like home, I don't believe CCC ever made the football club welcome. They saw the Ricoh more as a commercial venture that would be used more 24/7 (nothing wrong with that) but their priority has always been exhibitions & concerts etc. etc.. CCFC have always come well down the list of priorities as was the case recently when a home game clashed with the Davis Cup! They even insisted that JH's Statue was sited in it's current position instead of where it should be, in a much more central position between the shop & the casino!

Over a period of time (even before our current owners) they have rejected a number of potential buyers, all have insisted on owning the ground if they were to invest in the club. So it's pretty obvious to me that unless CCC change their long term stance, we don't have any chance of moving back to the Ricoh and I for one won't be sorry about that.

The consensus within football in general is that because of rule changes, either the owners or the football club must own their own stadium, after all it's not rocket science is it. Many others have stated the obvious, Ray Ranson, Paul Fletcher and Geoffrey Robinson MP, so with CCC refusing to sell the club or it's owners the Ricoh we have to 'move-on'!

I will be attending the forthcoming meeting and totally support the project of building a new home, both in the long and short term. We must look forward rather than always looking back, the 'blame game' is futile IMHO.

I have to say I totally agree with you...I remember Paul Fletcher having to get a man with a crane in the middle of the night to put up the club crest...CCC wouldn't give the club permission...the most they wanted were small crests over the turnstile entrances...then he tried to get CCFC Signage put onto the Ricoh Arena signs off the M6....they wouldn't allow it....finally when the wall on the roundabout was built with the Ricoh Arena Sign on it, the club tried to get 'Home of CCFC' put on it...again, they didn't want to know...that is how much CCC wanted us... (it's interesting to see there is a 'De Vere hotel' sign on the wall now)...

 

[Rusty Trombone]

I have to say I totally agree with you...I remember Paul Fletcher having to get a man with a crane in the middle of the night to put up the club crest...CCC wouldn't give the club permission...the most they wanted were small crests over the turnstile entrances...then he tried to get CCFC Signage put onto the Ricoh Arena signs off the M6....they wouldn't allow it....finally when the wall on the roundabout was built with the Ricoh Arena Sign on it, the club tried to get 'Home of CCFC' put on it...again, they didn't want to know...that is how much CCC wanted us... (it's interesting to see there is a 'De Vere hotel' sign on the wall now)...

Have you got the links to the planning requests, and subsequent refusal? Surely if the Council didn't want the crest up, it wouldn't be up.

 

[skybluetony176]

I think I see where you mean, the large undeveloped area just north of Sephton Drive, bordered by the railway on the west and the canal on the east, there is certainly more than 60acres there, but it has bugger all road links, so I don't think it would be a feasible site for a new stadium as it would cost far too much to build a dual carriageway to it, and also just how long would it take to buy all the land on the route of an access road & get planning for that too! Nope mate, it makes very little sense.

i recon they will utilize the canal and run link from the Coventry canal basin. narrow boats from narrow minded owners.

 

[Jack Griffin]

Have you got the links to the planning requests, and subsequent refusal? Surely if the Council didn't want the crest up, it wouldn't be up.

I remember Fletcher putting up the signs & daring CCC to take them down, knowing public opinion was on his side, the signs were still there last time I passed the Ricoh a few weeks ago.

However the fact that jobsworths in planning wouldn't approve a large sign has so all to do with RFC's ridiculous line(s) of argument.

 

[Rusty Trombone]

I remember Fletcher putting up the signs & daring CCC to take them down, knowing public opinion was on his side, the signs were still there last time I passed the Ricoh a few weeks ago.

However the fact that jobsworths in planning wouldn't approve a large sign has so all to do with RFC's ridiculous line(s) of argument.

It is simply not true that planning was refused, and that is why the signs are there.

 

[dongonzalos]

The very fact that she keeps stating the SISU favoured 'Coventry area' makes her sound less than impartial to me.

If she is totally independent and impartial I wonder how SISU got hold of her, I don't recall anything asking people to come forward if they wished to lead a group like this. Given that her company is one of the only local companies still advertising with the club its easy to see people viewing her as less than impartial.

Why would someone who is involved in building a stadium for SISU be classed as impartial.
Has she claimed to be?

 

[AJB1983]

The reason the club crest took so long to go up at the Ricoh is because the club wouldn't pay for it....
Fletcher was an odd one, the second he moved from ACL to CCFC he turned on ACL.
Another thing he did was stand up in VIP one match day and say 'I can categorically state that Gary McSheffrey will not be sold'...2 weeks later he was a birmingham player.

 

[RFC]

RFC as much as I have fond memories of HR I don't agree with your analysis. The club needed to move, whether it was done correctly is another matter.

I don't think you can say CCC never made us welcome at the Ricoh. Without them it wouldn't of happened. Once the clubs fortunes slid, yes the rent needed addressing.

Putting all that to one side as it's been debated enough, I'll state why I'm not convinced about the New Stadium Proposals.

Let's take Fisher at his word, he informed ACL of the treat to move and build there own stadium over 12 months ago. Fine.

But such a move/project is dependant on available suitable land, planning permission and the scope to have supporting business developments to provide the much needed revenue streams. To sum that up the success of such a venture hinges entirely on the location of the proposed site.

So I am surprised they have moved prior to making a purchase of a suitable site. This is why I think it is all about trying to distress ACL and holding the Club as hostage to try and gain a suitable deal for the Ricoh. I don't think SISU have budgeted much beyond this season or next at the most.
Don't expect the project to move very fast if at at.

If however I'm proved wrong and they find suitable land and start building an appropriate stadium; despite my mistrust of SISU business practises I would still support us acquiring a suitable home, although I believe that is still the Ricoh.

If they have no intention of building a new stadium, why appoint the Chair of the Coventry Chamber of Commerce to head the 'Stadium Consultation' group?

I don't think Sandra Garlick would get involved unless it was likely to go ahead.

A Ricoh return is becoming less and less likely, the truth will eventually come out!

 

[RFC]

RFC said:

"The owners of CCFC wanted to develop the ground further but were prevented from doing so by CCC, who wanted the land for housing (they could make much more money from that!)."

But it's not true. Why do you make stuff up? What's the point'

I was talking about Highfield Road and it's FACT! If you choose not to believe it that's your problem!

 

[rightumpty]

Garlick does leave a nasty taste in the mouth.
What makes her think she is qualified to carry out this dastardly deed.

 

[Jack Griffin]

It is simply not true that planning was refused, and that is why the signs are there.

You are quite right, it looks more like Fletcher simply didn't follow planning procedures, but the council said OK anyway when he put it up without getting permission & then said tut tut, you should have talked to us first.. please do so in future. http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/council-turn-blind-eye-ricoh-3127632

Managing director Paul Fletcher had feared a backlash from the city council after the five metre-high badge went up on Friday.

But John McGuigan (right), the city council's director of city development, says he has no problem with the famous club crest.

Mr McGuigan said today: "It is not a problem to us.

"The sign is in the right place and is the sort of proposition that we would have supported anyway but we are annoyed that we haven't been asked.

"We have a commitment from the football club that no more signage goes up at the Ricoh without discussion with us."

Coventry City's managing director, Paul Fletcher, yesterday admitted he had ignored planning rules by putting up the sign.