Andy Thorn favourite for the Kidderminster job (14 Viewers)
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Grendel
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If they are they won't be much longer.
Lets all sing together
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Wonder if he still holds training sessions smashed off his face ?
dongonzalos
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Didn't realise you had such faith in him
dongonzalos
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Struggle to judge him till that happens TBF
Grendel
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No normal owners would have employed the fat lazy turd in the first place.
dongonzalos
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So uncouth
Cheshire Sky Blue
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You are a twat
FRY-CCFC
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Wow. Original
hill83
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Surely the whole point is that it's not original? That's the angle I usually go with anyway. Keep it simple for simple folk.
And while we're at it, "Wow. Original" is hardly a unique response.
Grendel
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Thorn lives in Cheshire doesn't he? Do you go on the piss with him?
Hobo
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Did you ever meet him?
Have you held a conversation with him?
Heard him prepare a team in the dressing room or speak at half time?
Witnessed one of his training sessions?
Witnessed his organisational skills?
Read one of his scouting reports?
Sometimes football fans think they know a lot about people when in reality we know little about them. It is a results driven business football without much business logic.
Grendel, I am not defending him as my replies to the above would be No. I just wonder what evidence you have to form such a vitriolic opinion?
dongonzalos
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You know where he lives....
Mr T - Sukka!
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It was SISUs decision to give him the managers job. So the buck stops with them.
Also it was SISU that sold players under him.
So say what you want, yes he had faults but you have to look at who put him that job. SISU!
Another fuck up.
Also it was SISU that sold players under him.
So say what you want, yes he had faults but you have to look at who put him that job. SISU!
Another fuck up.
lordsummerisle
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Sisu mad an awaful lot of bad managerial appointments, Coleman, Boothroyd, and Thorn.
Majority of fans lapped them up as great managers though despite all evidence to the contrary.
Mr T - Sukka!
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I think there last 2 appointments as managers have been good ones.
But every good decision by SISU there are 10 bad ones.
But every good decision by SISU there are 10 bad ones.
dongonzalos
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Did the majority not have concerns about Boothroyd and his style (or lack of style) of football?
Grendel
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Not when we were winning no.
ccfcway
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yer, all 12 games of it !
Grendel
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It was 11 games under Thorn that made him a hero with some idiots - and we only won 3 of them.
Sky Blue Pete
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He won't manage again I don't think
fernandopartridge
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Absolutely clueless.
dongonzalos
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And Boothroyd?
dongonzalos
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You were quoting Neil Moxley from the Daily Mail the other day and valuing the article as it was from a daily mail journalist, when you were attempting to discredit Mr Haskel's bid were you not?
dongonzalos
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The Midlander: Thorn sacking is one of many strange decisions by Coventry
By Neil Moxley
11:06 30 Aug 2012, updated 11:12 30 Aug 2012
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There have been some strange decisions at Coventry City over the years.
Selling Highfield Road might have been one. Sacking Eric Black certainly fell into that category.
Current owners SISU handing over their cash to Ray Ranson? Ouch.
Dismissed: Andy Thorn was axed by Coventry after three league draws
And so it was with a resigned air of acceptance that it was business as unusual when news broke on Sunday lunchtime that Andy Thorn had been sacked.
Yes, after an unbeaten start to the season with his heavily-changed squad.
I accept that it must have been gut-wrenching to see a two-goal lead slip away at the Ricoh against Bury, just 24 hours before that decision was made.
Just as I accept it must have been galling to see a hatful of chances go begging at Yeovil.
And I know also that the performance - as admitted on Radio Five afterwards by goalscorer Kevin Kilbane - wasn't up to scratch against Dagenham and Redbridge.
But the good news is that the Sky Blues progressed in the Capital One Cup. And were able to beat Birmingham City on Tuesday night.
Five matches with the same players and undefeated to boot.
At a time when managers, we are told, are accountable through results, Thorn was in credit this season.
The players have been put through their paces in pre-season. Systems have been worked upon.
And with the sacking, all of that goes out of the window.
When Coventry City end their due diligence on their prospective manager, they are likely to have to adapt to the new guy's method of working. He may want to bring in his new players.
Another period of transition and change.
Now, I have no particular support for Thorn. He had a difficult job last year but I'm not convinced that relegation was a natural consequence for Coventry City when the campaign kicked off 12 months ago.
Thorn's record over 57 games was poor. Did it change that much over 60?
However, my problem is this: If you are going to back him during the close-season and allow him to bring in his own players, then surely he needs more than 270 minutes to put his plans into operation?
At this point, I know there will be supporters pointing to Bryan Gunn's sacking at Norwich City and Paul Lambert's subsequent appointment.
New squad: Thorn had several new players to manage
But the Canaries actually had played two matches - winning at Yeovil and then drawing at Exeter before the Scot's arrival was confirmed. Who knows what might have happened had Gunn stayed? And, ergo, had Thorn.
Off-the-field Tim Fisher, Coventry City's de facto chief executive, appears to be heading in the right direction. Negotiations with various parties over the rent, Ricoh Arena ownership issue and the city council are on-going.
But he needs to be mindful of the fact that of the 'big' clubs who have dropped into League One, only Leicester City have made it out at the first time of asking. Leeds United, Nottingham Forest, Charlton Athletic, the two Sheffield clubs - none of those jumped straight back into the Championship.
It is not an easy league to escape.
In fairness, Fisher suggested there were 'other factors' in the statement which followed Thorn's. One day, when the legalities have no doubt been sorted out, we might find the truth.
And, I suppose the point is this: If Coventry do end in the top six - as was the stated aim at the start of the season - then the board's decision will be vindicated.
If not, supporters will point to Thorn's sacking and ask why he wasn't given time.
As possibly we all expected prior to last Sunday's announcement, results will determine all come May next year
The Midlander: Thorn sacking is one of many strange decisions by Coventry
By Neil Moxley
11:06 30 Aug 2012, updated 11:12 30 Aug 2012
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There have been some strange decisions at Coventry City over the years.
Selling Highfield Road might have been one. Sacking Eric Black certainly fell into that category.
Current owners SISU handing over their cash to Ray Ranson? Ouch.
Dismissed: Andy Thorn was axed by Coventry after three league draws
And so it was with a resigned air of acceptance that it was business as unusual when news broke on Sunday lunchtime that Andy Thorn had been sacked.
Yes, after an unbeaten start to the season with his heavily-changed squad.
I accept that it must have been gut-wrenching to see a two-goal lead slip away at the Ricoh against Bury, just 24 hours before that decision was made.
Just as I accept it must have been galling to see a hatful of chances go begging at Yeovil.
And I know also that the performance - as admitted on Radio Five afterwards by goalscorer Kevin Kilbane - wasn't up to scratch against Dagenham and Redbridge.
But the good news is that the Sky Blues progressed in the Capital One Cup. And were able to beat Birmingham City on Tuesday night.
Five matches with the same players and undefeated to boot.
At a time when managers, we are told, are accountable through results, Thorn was in credit this season.
The players have been put through their paces in pre-season. Systems have been worked upon.
And with the sacking, all of that goes out of the window.
When Coventry City end their due diligence on their prospective manager, they are likely to have to adapt to the new guy's method of working. He may want to bring in his new players.
Another period of transition and change.
Now, I have no particular support for Thorn. He had a difficult job last year but I'm not convinced that relegation was a natural consequence for Coventry City when the campaign kicked off 12 months ago.
Thorn's record over 57 games was poor. Did it change that much over 60?
However, my problem is this: If you are going to back him during the close-season and allow him to bring in his own players, then surely he needs more than 270 minutes to put his plans into operation?
At this point, I know there will be supporters pointing to Bryan Gunn's sacking at Norwich City and Paul Lambert's subsequent appointment.
New squad: Thorn had several new players to manage
But the Canaries actually had played two matches - winning at Yeovil and then drawing at Exeter before the Scot's arrival was confirmed. Who knows what might have happened had Gunn stayed? And, ergo, had Thorn.
Off-the-field Tim Fisher, Coventry City's de facto chief executive, appears to be heading in the right direction. Negotiations with various parties over the rent, Ricoh Arena ownership issue and the city council are on-going.
But he needs to be mindful of the fact that of the 'big' clubs who have dropped into League One, only Leicester City have made it out at the first time of asking. Leeds United, Nottingham Forest, Charlton Athletic, the two Sheffield clubs - none of those jumped straight back into the Championship.
It is not an easy league to escape.
In fairness, Fisher suggested there were 'other factors' in the statement which followed Thorn's. One day, when the legalities have no doubt been sorted out, we might find the truth.
And, I suppose the point is this: If Coventry do end in the top six - as was the stated aim at the start of the season - then the board's decision will be vindicated.
If not, supporters will point to Thorn's sacking and ask why he wasn't given time.
As possibly we all expected prior to last Sunday's announcement, results will determine all come May next year
Grendel
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You seem to have a thing about Boothroyd.
Tell you what, without mentioning names there are two managers.
In the blue corner is a manager who has led teams for 368 games. He has a 37% win ratio and has the following honours;
- Championship Play-Off winners 2006
- FA Cup semi-finalists 2007
- Championship Play-Off semi-finalists 2008
- League Two Play-Off finalists 2013
In the Red corner there is a manager who has been in charge for 60 games and has a 21% win ratio. He has a relegation as an honour and has been unemployed for 18 months
Go on take your pick.
Moff
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You missed the R out of pick, particularly in relation to the Red Corner
fernandopartridge
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He was dreadful
letsallsingtogether
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Fuck me for someone who has to mention Thorn on 90% of his threads this comment is magical...Embarrassingly calling every one stupid for not agreeing with his opinion then defends Hoofroyd who got the sack for leaving Northampton ready for non-league?