Trust: 6 Local Authorities say no discussions. Rugby say no. (4 Viewers)

[shmmeee]

http://www.skybluetrust.co.uk/index.php/the-news/329-trust-press-release-08012014

Information Concerning Talks Between Local Councils and CCFC

On 30th October 2013 Tim Fisher reported to a Supporters Consultative Group meeting that the Club were currently in discussions with 2 other councils and presenting the benefits and economic impact of a multi-purpose stadium. Both those councils instantly see the benefits.”

In his Sky TV interview on 20 December, Mark Labovitch said: “There are two local authorities involved. They each want an economic impact assessment to show the benefits that the stadium will bring to the area.”

As the Club have consistently declined to clarify where the proposed stadiums sites are, or even to confirm which two local authorities they have been discussing the matter with, the Trust have sent Freedom of Information Act requests to seven local authorities surrounding Coventry, to try to discover exactly what is going on. Those requests asked the Councils whether they had, since 1 January 2012, taken part in any discussions, meetings or correspondence with CCFC, Otium, SISU Capital or anyone acting on their behalf, regarding development proposals within the Council’s area relating to the building of a football stadium and/or any other facilities related to the business of the football club. We asked for details of any such discussions and the sites and proposals involved.

The requests were sent on 25 November 2013 and should, by law, have been answered by 23 December 2013.

Six Councils have responded:

Coventry City - no such discussions
Solihull – no such discussions
Hinckley and Bosworth – no such discussions
North Warwickshire – no such discussions
Warwick - no such discussions
Warwickshire – no such discussions

Response still awaited from Nuneaton and Bedworth but this is expected shortly

Rugby Council replied as follows:

"Rugby Borough Council can confirm that approximately three months ago the Leader of the Council and Executive Director met with representatives from Coventry City Football Club to discuss the club’s proposals to develop a Category 2 Academy training facility within the borough. The representatives of Coventry City Football Club were informed that the proposals were unacceptable to the council and there has been no communication with the club since that meeting."

 

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[italiahorse]

Bedworth it is then ????

Thanks for the good work.

 

[shmmeee]

Nowt to do with me. Just saw it on NewsNow.

Agree though. Well done to everyone involved, another stone turned (or at least fresh meat for the forum).

 

[jimmyhillsfanclub]

Interesting that Nuneaton & Bedworth have not responded within the legal time frame.....20 working days I believe.

 

[skybluejelly]

But this also proves that the club are not lying and have made inquiries ...

 

[shmmeee]

Interesting that Nuneaton & Bedworth have not responded within the legal time frame.....20 working days I believe.

Yep. 20 working days unless they ask for more time.

From the pres release it seems they might have as they say they expect it soon.

 

[Kingokings204]

Proof of what we all knew. Anyone who believes in a new stadium is obviously suffering with stupidity issues.

 

[shmmeee]

But this also proves that the club are not lying and have made inquiries ...

About a training ground.

To one authority.

 

[torchomatic]

Should be a short meeting tomorrow then.

 

[jimmyhillsfanclub]

But this also proves that the club are not lying and have made inquiries ...

Not quite.....So far, It proves they made 1 enquiry about a training facility, not a stadium....

 

[oldskyblue58]

I would not assume that just because Nuneaton & Bedworth may have been approached that they would react positively. I would have thought confirmation from them will be shortly

 

[shmmeee]

To be honest. I'd have thought that side was less likely considering the proximity of another town, and of course an existing stadium.

 

[CJ_covblaze]

Bedworth it is then ????

Thanks for the good work.

Lets not jump to conclusions. It could mean they've been busy with Christmas and New Year stuff. As soon as we're able to we will release the forthcoming response from N&B.

 

[Warwickhunt]

http://www.skybluetrust.co.uk/index.php/the-news/329-trust-press-release-08012014

So why did you not wait until you got
Response from Nuneaton and Bedworth "ut this is expected shortly!" the two councils I would expect to have benn contacted they have not respnded yet! Anyway Knowing SISU the way we do they would have had a NDA(none disclosure agreement)in place

 

[ccfcway]

when we get it, someone should send this straight the to FL.

 

[skybluejelly]

I have said before .. A little bird in the masons told me that the club were eying the oakdale nursery opposite the speedway.. But spionkop said there were protected woods there so unlikely to get planning permission..looks like he was right.. But as you know once you have some sort of development on green/ brown belt land it's a lot easier to get more permission..and truth be told it would be a good investment if they got planning permission for the academy to go there

 

[skyblueinBaku]

when we get it, someone should send this straight the to FL.

The FL will probably say they can't interfere.

 

[chiefdave]

But this also proves that the club are not lying and have made inquiries ...

That's not right, it very clearly shows they have been lying. Two quotes about the new ground (not about a training ground)

Fisher "the Club were currently in discussions with 2 other councils and presenting the benefits and economic impact of a multi-purpose stadium. Both those councils instantly see the benefits.”

Labovitch “There are two local authorities involved. They each want an economic impact assessment to show the benefits that the stadium will bring to the area.”

With only one left to respond every other authority has said they haven't been spoken to about a new stadium so both of the above statements are outright lies.

 

[shmmeee]

So why did you not wait until you got
Response from Nuneaton and Bedworth "ut this is expected shortly!" the two councils I would expect to have benn contacted they have not respnded yet! Anyway Knowing SISU the way we do they would have had a NDA(none disclosure agreement)in place

If an NDA was in place the answer wouldn't have been "no discussions" it would've been "cannot comment".

N&B is one council.

They were waiting for all responses, people (me) were asking for the info earlier. I'm glad it's been released prior to the forum meeting, even though it's off limits to talk about that, it changes the mood a little.

Well done SBT I say.

 

[Kingokings204]

Stop it. There wont be a new stadium. stop wasting our time. Concrete proof here so stop acting like thick people.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

That's not right, it very clearly shows they have been lying. Two quotes about the new ground (not about a training ground)

Fisher "the Club were currently in discussions with 2 other councils and presenting the benefits and economic impact of a multi-purpose stadium. Both those councils instantly see the benefits.”

Labovitch “There are two local authorities involved. They each want an economic impact assessment to show the benefits that the stadium will bring to the area.”

With only one left to respond every other authority has said they haven't been spoken to about a new stadium so both of the above statements are outright lies.

Something to bring up at the stadium forum

 

[Warwickhunt]

I have said before .. A little bird in the masons told me that the club were eying the oakdale nursery opposite the speedway.. But spionkop said there were protected woods there so unlikely to get planning permission..looks like he was right.. But as you know once you have some sort of development on green/ brown belt land it's a lot easier to get more permission..and truth be told it would be a good investment if they got planning permission for the academy to go there

Now your thinking outside of the Box - you will notice that Rugby only quoted as saying that SISU had applied for a grade 2 Training Academy which they turned down

 

[Specs WT-R75]

Is there a difference between council and local authority? Sorry to be a numpty, just wondering if a council is made up by several LAs?

 

[fernandopartridge]

The club has been in discussion with an authority then.

Are we sure that the dicussion wasn't about converting Ryton into the training facility?

 

[Kingokings204]

even if N + B said yes sisu have enquired about a shed stadium then A this means nothing as I could enquire in theory therefore means nothing and B I though ML AND TF quoted 2 sites. Another porky? surely not. Pricks

 

[fernandopartridge]

Is there a difference between council and local authority? Sorry to be a numpty, just wondering if a council is made up by several LAs?

Same thing.

 

[kingharvest]

Is there a difference between council and local authority? Sorry to be a numpty, just wondering if a council is made up by several LAs?

nah - same thing

 

[italiahorse]

But this also proves that the club are not lying and have made inquiries ...

They said they were in discussions with 2 local authorities.
This proves they were not and that the only discussions they had was with Rugby over a training ground.

If people still think this will happen you are brainwashed.
Will the people at the stadium forum happen to mention this or will the bleat back in admiration?

 

[chiefdave]

The club has been in discussion with an authority then.

Only if N&B respond and say yes, even then it would only be one and Fisher and Labovich have both clearly stated they've been talking to two. The response from Rugby said they'd been spoken to about a training ground not a stadium. It also said it was unacceptable where Fisher and Labovich had said the two councils they had talked to were very interested and wanted economic impact assesments done.

 

[italiahorse]

Is there a difference between council and local authority? Sorry to be a numpty, just wondering if a council is made up by several LAs?

No, I've recently asked for the same information so have been through the process. Didn't ask Hinckley though.

 

[Specs WT-R75]

Same thing.

So this means that either....

1) Sisu have lied
2) If N&B is one council then they are looking further afield than councils bordering Coventry (for example Hinkley etc) -- time for more FOI requests??
3) Councils have lied about their FOI responses, or have made mistakes...

I guess more likely to be 1+2 than 3....

 

[oldskyblue58]

think we need to keep in mind what was asked of each of the authorities concerned

Those requests asked the Councils whether they had, since 1 January 2012, taken part in any discussions, meetings or correspondence with CCFC, Otium, SISU Capital or anyone acting on their behalf, regarding development proposals within the Council’s area relating to the building of a football stadium and/or any other facilities related to the business of the football club.

 

[chiefdave]

If N&B is one council then they are looking further afield than councils bordering Coventry (for example Hinkley etc)

Does anywhere else come within the "9 miles of the council house" or are we now looking at moving even further away from the city. When does it stop even being in the "Coventry area"?

 

[italiahorse]

Something to bring up at the stadium forum

Crucial I think.
If you continue without asking you can't be the full ticket.

 

[italiahorse]

Does anywhere else come within the "9 miles of the council house" or are we now looking at moving even further away from the city. When does it stop even being in the "Coventry area"?

They have asked all of them plus Hinckley which is outside.