Protest option (3 Viewers)

[LB87ccfc]

Never mind asking the trust or KCIC who although have tried, have failed miserably, how about a REAL protest, that demonstrates the feelings of ALL Coventry City Football Club supporters far and wide, how about uniting as one just for once, and ignore the my dick is bigger than your dick comments.. and actually do a protest within Northampton and March to Sixfields..

Its a few quid on the train to Northampton from Cov, can all go and have a few beers somewhere and then protest outside, bringing Northampton to a stand still, and ultimately stretching police resource outside the stadium, imagine if 1000's of us actually thought right enough of been a keyboard warrior time for some action?
Time to stand up for what I believe in, Time to make a stance.

NOMP = jury still out.. as not everyone will comply with not going / going, quite frankly who cares who goes and who don't if no one went, Sisu would still do what they are doing, trust me 1,000 buying tickets does not even pay for 10 players salaries each month never mind everything else.

But what about, just for once, we decided to show we are bigger than a 12,000 pie in the sky stadium being suggested, and gathered en mass, If Blackburn can do it and protest in big numbers, surely we can?

Or do we want to continue to bitch? slag off one and all, whilst Timmy laughs his balls of at us all?

Go to Northampton.. Don't have to go in, just cause havoc ( legally), bring the place to a standstill, stretch resources?

THE TIME HAS COME FOR ACTION IN THE CORRECT MANNER AND THE CORRECT PLACE.

 

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[standupforcity]

I posted this back in October.....and it seems appropriate to do it again now, cos nothing has happened to date....read on

Time to move the protest inside...

Watching the game on TV yesterday it struck me how ineffectual the protest and presence on the hill is. I haven't been to Sixfields yet, believing it the right thing to do if we are to make our feelings felt. But I'm beginning to think the protest from the hill isn't working and it's time to move the protest inside the stadium. We all want to see the football, and I'd be prepared to go and watch a home game if I knew I would be part of a mass and prolonged noisy protest throughout the game, with as many eyecatching banners as possible. This laid back approach we're adopting at the moment and hoping for results is not working. Packing the stadium, causing real focus, stretching the police resourses to marshall us and being passionate in our demands, might be a better way. As they kept saying on Sky ''Coventry are too big a club....etc etc', and they're right. So I'm saying this 'big' club deserves big support, big protest worthy of our true status and history. The weather probably put a lot of people off yesterday, but if they'd known they were going to be under cover and part of someting that felt a lot more positive, Im sure they'd have gone....I would!!! So I believe it's time to stop pussyfooting around, get inside that stadium and show sisu we really do care about our club and mean business, and we're notgoing to go away. And frankly I don't care if it means putting a few bob in sisu's pocket .... money really isn't the most impotant thing here at the moment...getting back to the Ricoh is....first things first!

 

[standupforcity]

Looks like it's just you and me LB....

 

[LB87ccfc]

I posted this back in October.....and it seems appropriate to do it again now, cos nothing has happened to date....read on

Time to move the protest inside...

Watching the game on TV yesterday it struck me how ineffectual the protest and presence on the hill is. I haven't been to Sixfields yet, believing it the right thing to do if we are to make our feelings felt. But I'm beginning to think the protest from the hill isn't working and it's time to move the protest inside the stadium. We all want to see the football, and I'd be prepared to go and watch a home game if I knew I would be part of a mass and prolonged noisy protest throughout the game, with as many eyecatching banners as possible. This laid back approach we're adopting at the moment and hoping for results is not working. Packing the stadium, causing real focus, stretching the police resourses to marshall us and being passionate in our demands, might be a better way. As they kept saying on Sky ''Coventry are too big a club....etc etc', and they're right. So I'm saying this 'big' club deserves big support, big protest worthy of our true status and history. The weather probably put a lot of people off yesterday, but if they'd known they were going to be under cover and part of someting that felt a lot more positive, Im sure they'd have gone....I would!!! So I believe it's time to stop pussyfooting around, get inside that stadium and show sisu we really do care about our club and mean business, and we're notgoing to go away. And frankly I don't care if it means putting a few bob in sisu's pocket .... money really isn't the most impotant thing here at the moment...getting back to the Ricoh is....first things first!

Although a good suggestion, there is not a chance this will happen, would cause more chaos having 1000's turn up in Northampton and refusing to go in as what would they do with us all?
The Hill group has died away so I am told, now down to about 10-15 a game, so, at the moment, its making me wonder... These so called big clubs Leeds, Newcastle, Blackburn etc can organise mass protests' but us? no we just decide to argue between ourselves and fight online with eachother, great!.. maybe we deserve our 12,000 pie in sky stadium, as not enough give a fuck to actually go and do a real protest non of this walk through coventry or 30 on the hill.

 

[fernandopartridge]

7 thousand people marched through a city to protest, i'd hardly call it inferior to the 'big clubs' you mention.

 

[Noggin]

How surprising the first suggestion for a protest involves going into sixfields and giving sisu our money, there is multiple good reasons that this keeps getting shouted down, and the suggestion to do it will probably kill the thread.

As the Op says you can protest outside the ground, you can bring traffic to a halt etc etc, it requires far fewer people and doesn't have the downside of giving money to sisu. The police won't have a problem if more people go to the games, they will just charge more for their services. Going to the game isn't stretching resources its just good news for northampton, good news for the police and good news for sisu.

 

[LB87ccfc]

7 thousand people marched through a city to protest, i'd hardly call it inferior to the 'big clubs' you mention.

And what did it achieve fernando? who was there to see it? what problems did it cause?
Would this happen to Leeds, Millwall, Birmingham even?

Answer - No!

We need them numbers to turn up and protest through Northampton and make them think twice about this stupid idea? but unfortunately no one see's this!!

 

[Si80]

5-6k of people protested in Cov when it was on our doorstep. What makes you think you'll get more in Northampton?

To me it's very clear that SISU / Otium couldn't care less about the supporters of CCFC. That's been shown time and time again and no protest no matter how high profile (Emirates / Televised games etc) will change their stance. Your dealing with business people, not people passionate about a football club.

 

[LB87ccfc]

How surprising the first suggestion for a protest involves going into sixfields and giving sisu our money, there is multiple good reasons that this keeps getting shouted down, and the suggestion to do it will probably kill the thread.

As the Op says you can protest outside the ground, you can bring traffic to a halt etc etc, it requires far fewer people and doesn't have the downside of giving money to sisu. The police won't have a problem if more people go to the games, they will just charge more for their services. Going to the game isn't stretching resources its just good news for northampton, good news for the police and good news for sisu.

We are under northamptonshire now, lets stretch the resources and protest in the correct manner in the correct place! Outside, refusing to go in, can have beers and a day out, but if 5000 turned up, what then? what would they do with us all?

 

[LB87ccfc]

5-6k of people protested in Cov when it was on our doorstep. What makes you think you'll get more in Northampton?

To me it's very clear that SISU / Otium couldn't care less about the supporters of CCFC. That's been shown time and time again and no protest no matter how high profile (Emirates / Televised games etc) will change their stance. Your dealing with business people, not people passionate about a football club.

5-6k in Cov.. aimed at nobody, got 3 days coverage and nothing, all went quiet and no one gave a flying dogshit again, instead just started to get divided opinions through the fanbase.

I really do not understand after reading so many slag off the 12,000 stadium plans, and wanting to return to the Ricoh that we can not travel en mass to Northampton and start to turn the screw on them !!

 

[fernandopartridge]

And what did it achieve fernando? who was there to see it? what problems did it cause?
Would this happen to Leeds, Millwall, Birmingham even?

Answer - No!

We need them numbers to turn up and protest through Northampton and make them think twice about this stupid idea? but unfortunately no one see's this!!

Why are you quoting those clubs? Birmingham are run by a skint crack pot Chinese bloke, i've heard nothing about them protesting against him.

Likewise, the Leeds fans allegedly hated Ken Bates but still turned up every week in their thousands.

 

[standupforcity]

How surprising the first suggestion for a protest involves going into sixfields and giving sisu our money, there is multiple good reasons that this keeps getting shouted down, and the suggestion to do it will probably kill the thread.

As the Op says you can protest outside the ground, you can bring traffic to a halt etc etc, it requires far fewer people and doesn't have the downside of giving money to sisu. The police won't have a problem if more people go to the games, they will just charge more for their services. Going to the game isn't stretching resources its just good news for northampton, good news for the police and good news for sisu.

Clearly someone who's just prepared to sit back and do NOTHING!! Using the excuse of money as your get out clause. Don't know why you've bothered to bring your negativity to this thread...bye bye!

 

[Huckerby]

5-6k of people protested in Cov when it was on our doorstep. What makes you think you'll get more in Northampton?

To me it's very clear that SISU / Otium couldn't care less about the supporters of CCFC. That's been shown time and time again and no protest no matter how high profile (Emirates / Televised games etc) will change their stance. Your dealing with business people, not people passionate about a football club.

It doesn't matter if SISU cares, it matters if we get enough of a message across to the millions of other football supporters and the football authorities and make enough noise that they CANNOT continue to ignore us!!

 

[ricohroar]

Did Ken Bates try and move Leeds????. they just didnt like, him. I'd be up for turning up in Northampton, not going in to protest, and I'm sure I could rally up 20 or so others I know to join in.

 

[LB87ccfc]

Did Ken Bates try and move Leeds????. they just didnt like, him. I'd be up for turning up in Northampton, not going in to protest, and I'm sure I could rally up 20 or so others I know to join in.

I used Leeds as an example as a club who gathered enmass and forced their owner out.
I use Birmingham as their is not a chance in hell they would sit back and let this mess happen to them.

Basically believe we are all guilty in being a little bit soft and doing protests in the incorrect way and locations IMO

 

[ricohroar]

Yes LB87 I understand that, my comment was aimed at fernando's comment re Leeds not yours

 

[Si80]

It doesn't matter if SISU cares, it matters if we get enough of a message across to the millions of other football supporters and the football authorities and make enough noise that they CANNOT continue to ignore us!!

The FA and FL have had a chance to do right by our club, look how they stepped in and helped out??

Oh yeah we're playing our home games in Northampton.

No-one, but the fans give a fuck about CCFC. They (SISU, The FA and League) will continue to ignore everything that comes from the fans, and why? Because they can. It's of no care to the FA or league if we continue playing in Northampton from this moment forwards forever, all they care about if the fulfilling of the fixtures. And as long as SISU / Otium continue to pay and put a team out under the moniker "CCFC" they couldn't care less.

If SISU / Otium pull the plug then all they'll do is promote an extra team from League 2 / relegate 2 from League 1 and all of the leagues below will shuffle accordingly.

 

[Noggin]

Clearly someone who's just prepared to sit back and do NOTHING!! Using the excuse of money as your get out clause. Don't know why you've bothered to bring your negativity to this thread...bye bye!

I'm not using money as an excuse, I'm saying don't give money to our enemy who we are trying to starve just so we can let them know how we feel when they already know how we feel and dont care. Going to the game to specifically protest inside the crowd is completely counter productive, gives sisu exactly what they want and is an unbelievably bad idea and I have no idea why people keep suggesting it when 1) it wouldnt work and 2)the best chance of it happening has already passed, people have tried and failed to push this type of protest.

If people organise a proper protest outside the ground, ill happily come and help and be a terror.

Lets all go down to Tesco, shout about how they are killing local business and then all of us can do our shopping there, that'll show um

 

[standupforcity]

I'm not using money as an excuse, I'm saying don't give money to our enemy who we are trying to starve just so we can let them know how we feel when they already know how we feel and dont care. Going to the game to specifically protest inside the crowd is completely counter productive, gives sisu exactly what they want and is an unbelievably bad idea and I have no idea why people keep suggesting it when 1) it wouldnt work and 2)the best chance of it happening has already passed, people have tried and failed to push this type of protest.

If people organise a proper protest outside the ground, ill happily come and help and be a terror.

Lets all go down to Tesco, shout about how they are killing local business and then all of us can do our shopping there, that'll show um

I accept and like the idea of a protest outside the ground...but let's do something DIFFERENT...that's my point!

 

[jesus-wept]

LB87ccfc. Your idea is good and the one thing that hasn't happened is proper protest in the place that can be effective, Northampton. I have been to Trust meetings and the old Save Our City ones and they are all sound guys but a lot have no stomach to move protest forward, bring it up and I have, and it gets side stepped and I believe the reason is although sound guys with genuine concerns, one or two have ambitions to be on a board one day in one guise or other and to be seen to be proactive or militant might harm them later, just an opinion. The difficulty is how to organise, £10 train ride to and from Northampton is nowt. Just to go when a match is on and hang round the main stand and ticket office would do.

 

[LB87ccfc]

LB87ccfc. Your idea is good and the one thing that hasn't happened is proper protest in the place that can be effective, Northampton. I have been to Trust meetings and the old Save Our City ones and they are all sound guys but a lot have no stomach to move protest forward, bring it up and I have, and it gets side stepped and I believe the reason is although sound guys with genuine concerns, one or two have ambitions to be on a board one day in one guise or other and to be seen to be proactive or militant might harm them later, just an opinion. The difficulty is how to organise, £10 train ride to and from Northampton is nowt. Just to go when a match is on and hang round the main stand and ticket office would do.

Exactly, Although the Trust and save our city tried, they were either seen as clowns or people who wanted to gain something in the future like you say.

I strongly believe that if we really do care about what is happening, then Northampton is the only place to do it in a sensible manner and without going in the stadium, it would send shock waves to the local community, and make the policing costs rise, as well as make them think twice.

 

[jesus-wept]

You might laugh at this but the best way to do it would be a spontaneous action, rallying the troops as it were. Just need a group of like minded types in five or six areas round up and go wouldn't need that many either a couple of hundred for the first time then a second time loads would be game for it. Could there be trouble ? always possible but don't think so, especially as that threat could be nipped in the bud on the train down. Tactic would be train to Northampton, yomp to Sixfields, let the local old bill think we might go in, let game kick-off, back to station, train home, simple, easy and peaceful

 

[Noggin]

I accept and like the idea of a protest outside the ground...but let's do something DIFFERENT...that's my point!

Protesting outside the ground, all of us getting in the que for tickets but all having forgetten our credit card when it comes time to pay, making a circle around the ground like a picket line, holding up traffic, you can do lots of fun stuff but for it to really be a success you need the support of ideally the media and the sky blue trust, but at least one of them. But it seems to me they all just want to play nice with sisu and seem to be ignoring the fact that there is nothing to be gained by playing nice as sisus end game doesn't involve friendly negotiation.

Trying to arrange a protest without that type of support just leaves you with a few people turning up and even less enthusiasm next time someone plans a protest, over and over again through well meaning but bad organisation and planning and events that were always doomed to fail, we've had some poor protests which make it less and less likely you can convince someone to protest. The only way a protest is going to work with a small group of people is if you are willing to be very mischievous and accept you might get arrested.

 

[jesus-wept]

You are basically correct noggin but small numbered protest can be efficient but needs leadership. As said the point of this type of protest in Northampton is to use up police manpower, and don't use their pubs, use ours back home put nothing in the local economy, drains money and councils don't have too much of that lately

 

[Noggin]

I don't think increasing policing costs does anything against the police or northampton council. increasing policing costs presumably hurts sisu though. The more police that are needed the better for the police really they just bring people in on overtime and charge the club even more than that costs, bringing in money to the force.

Of course if you do it away from the stadium in the town centre, perhaps not on match day, and walk slowly down main roads protesting bring the city centre to a halt now thats a different matter, this can be done with a small number of people and while you probably won't be arrested (as long as you give up once the police get there) the people involved do need to accept that there would be a risk.

When I was younger and with my mum, I parked my wheelchair in the middle of the road so the Newcastle coaches couldn't leave after they beat us 5-0 (I think) They got out the coach and threatened me so we went to the police and pointed the guy out who threatened me, (Officer this man just threatened to tip a disabled boy out of his wheelchair and punch a women), then we stood where he could see us but not the police man and gave him the wanker sign while the policeman was giving him a bollocking. Damn I miss highfield road.