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[torchomatic]

Ah look, our own little Nick Griffin is getting all precious. I've got no problem with "Coventry Kid" or anyone from Coventry. Just xenophobes like you who don't think "outsiders" should support their team. It's so 1970s.

Do you think then that only players from Coventry should wear the shirt?

Watch it torchy will get jealous, youre not aloud to say Coventry kid etc.

 

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[valiant15]

Torch you could not 100% say u would not go until the circumstances happened.
Only then would you truly know

I just don't understand why he spits his dummy out when I say that if ccfc dies then a phoenix team will be supported by a lot of people from Coventry.

Is it ao hard to understand that as a Coventry kid i want to watch a Coventry team in Coventry?

I wouldn't expect him or other people like him to back it as the only ties they have to the city would be severed if the old ccfc died.

Is this so hard to understand ffs.

 

[torchomatic]

But you're not saying that, if you were then fine. You're saying that as I'm not a "Coventry Kid" then the phoenix team would be meaningless to me as I don't have any "ties" with the City. It's there in black and white, so don't lie or backtrack. If you want to be a xenophobe then at least stick by your convictions and be a proud xenophobe.

I just don't understand why he spits his dummy out when I say that if ccfc dies then a phoenix team will be supported by a lot of people from Coventry.

Is it ao hard to understand that as a Coventry kid i want to watch a Coventry team in Coventry?

I wouldn't expect him or other people like him to back it as the only ties they have to the city would be severed if the old ccfc died.

Is this so hard to understand ffs.

 

[valiant15]

Ah look, our own little Nick Griffin is getting all precious. I've got no problem with "Coventry Kid" or anyone from Coventry. Just xenophobes like you who don't think "outsiders" should support their team. It's so 1970s.

Do you think then that only players from Coventry should wear the shirt?

Stamping your feet again you spoiled baby?

What's nick Griffin got to do with this thread?

 

[valiant15]

But you're not saying that, if you were then fine. You're saying that as I'm not a "Coventry Kid" then the phoenix team would be meaningless to me as I don't have any "ties" with the City. It's there in black and white, so don't lie or backtrack. If you want to be a xenophobe then at least stick by your convictions and be a proud xenophobe.

You've said yourself that you wouldn't be interested. As a Coventry kid i would.

 

[torchomatic]

But you don't have to be a "Coventry kid" to be interested. I wouldn't but plenty of others would. And, it's not difficult to work out from our crowds over the year, many thousands of others in Coventry wouldn't be interested either.

You've said yourself that you wouldn't be interested. As a Coventry kid i would.

 

[valiant15]

But you don't have to be a "Coventry kid" to be interested. I wouldn't but plenty of others would. And, it's not difficult to work out from our crowds over the year, many thousands of others in Coventry wouldn't be interested either.

I know. Im saying that i can understand why you wouldn't be interested because it wouldn't be the ccfc you grew up with.

The only tie you have with the city of Coventry is ccfc.

As a local I'd be right behind it, if a few Warwickshire folk we're interested then great but I can understand why a lot of them wouldn't

 

[fernandopartridge]

Why's it shit?

If you can't understand where im coming from then you're more stupid than i thought.

You have no idea of the crowd figures that a phoenix team would attract. It would be a team playing in Coventry with the city's name and rid of sisu, , that'll do for me.

It's more than you'd have.

I think you're over estimating the level of support. Where was this demonstration of fantastic loyalty from the people of Coventry when the team was relegated, firstly from the Premier League and then from the Championship?

That's me speaking as a Coventry kid born and bred. I wouldn't have much interest in a phoenix club as I support Coventry City.

 

[Nick]

I think you're over estimating the level of support. Where was this demonstration of fantastic loyalty from the people of Coventry when the team was relegated, firstly from the Premier League and then from the Championship?

That's me speaking as a Coventry kid born and bred. I wouldn't have much interest in a phoenix club as I support Coventry City.

Pretty much the same. I'm not bothered about another club.

 

[valiant15]

I think you're over estimating the level of support. Where was this demonstration of fantastic loyalty from the people of Coventry when the team was relegated, firstly from the Premier League and then from the Championship?

That's me speaking as a Coventry kid born and bred. I wouldn't have much interest in a phoenix club as I support Coventry City.

Decline in attendances would happen at most club's after a relegation though.

Maybe i am overestimating a phoenix club, im sure if it was a success then people would drift towards it.

It would be a new ccfc for me, I know someone who supports afc Wimbledon and he says it feels exactly the same as the old club.

 

[GaryPendrysEyes]

Old discussion, but at some point in time Sisu will have broken the bond with Coventry, its people, history and more and more fans- they would have formed Sisuhampton, or indeed liquidated CCFC.
A phoenix team playing in Skyblue at the Ricoh may be the only real alternative to start afresh; and that might give something positive to look forward to for many alienated Cov football fans.

 

[hill83]

If a new club bought the history and the name then I'd be up for it. The current club would have to be completely gone though.

 

[valiant15]

If a new club bought the history and the name then I'd be up for it. The current club would have to be completely gone though.

I was totally out of order last night,my behaviour was uncalled for. Im sorry for any insults that came from my end.

 

[hill83]

I was totally out of order last night,my behaviour was uncalled for. Im sorry for any insults that came from my end.

Ha no worries, I wasn't exactly squeaky clean myself. Nice one for apologising.

 

[italiahorse]

If a new club bought the history and the name then I'd be up for it. The current club would have to be completely gone though.

Is it all only a name anyway ?

Were Coventry City once CCFC Ltd and are now Otium?

Does history have to transfer with ownership can't it transfer with the fans instead?

Does history follow the golden share as it could have gone anywhere during the administration process?

Does history follow location if so does a phoenix club in Coventry hold the banner?

 

[fernandopartridge]

Decline in attendances would happen at most club's after a relegation though.

Maybe i am overestimating a phoenix club, im sure if it was a success then people would drift towards it.

It would be a new ccfc for me, I know someone who supports afc Wimbledon and he says it feels exactly the same as the old club.

Fair enough. If CCFC ceased to be football would be pretty much finished for me.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Is it all only a name anyway ?

Were Coventry City once CCFC Ltd and are now Otium?

Does history have to transfer with ownership can't it transfer with the fans instead?

Does history follow the golden share as it could have gone anywhere during the administration process?

Does history follow location if so does a phoenix club in Coventry hold the banner?

The underlying company behind the club is completely and utterly irrelevant to me.

I actually think that clubs shouldn't be companies at all and should be not for profit organisations that exist to further football in this country.

 

[hill83]

Is it all only a name anyway ?

Were Coventry City once CCFC Ltd and are now Otium?

Does history have to transfer with ownership can't it transfer with the fans instead?

Does history follow the golden share as it could have gone anywhere during the administration process?

Does history follow location if so does a phoenix club in Coventry hold the banner?

If the history doesn't transfer by default it stays with the 'old' club. The club would still exist, so I'd be supporting that club. Coventry City.
If Coventry City didn't exist anymore at all and a new club started without the history it wouldn't mean anything to me. Might as well be Cov United.

It's all pie in the sky stuff anyway. By the time anything like this happens I'll be well past caring to be honest.

 

[GaryPendrysEyes]

If the history doesn't transfer by default it stays with the 'old' club. The club would still exist, so I'd be supporting that club. Coventry City.
If Coventry City didn't exist anymore at all and a new club started without the history it wouldn't mean anything to me. Might as well be Cov United.

If a new club drew on Coventry's history in some way - say Coventry Bantams/ Singers and played in skyblue at the Ricoh-- might make it more acceptable.
Might also keep the lawyers busy..again'..I guess (?)

 

[covcity4life]

pheonix club is what you make it imo

if ccfc dies and a new club starts representing city in same way(kit,songs,fans etc) they would be ccfc to me and it would be normal service resumed.

when i see afc wimbledon i dont there is that new team recreated from franchise mess, i just think there are the crazy gang who used to have players like efan ekoku,hans segers and chris perry etc

 

[Nick]

If a new club drew on Coventry's history in some way - say Coventry Bantams/ Singers and played in skyblue at the Ricoh-- might make it more acceptable.
Might also keep the lawyers busy..again'..I guess (?)

Still not the same team is it? Coventry sphinx play in sky blue, doesn't mean a thing.

 

[SkyBlueSid]

Before this season I had attended home games for 50 years, becoming a supporter in the fantastic JH era in 1963. I'd had a season ticket for 46 years, and had a spell of about 15 years in the 70s/80s when I went to every away game too. For the last 25 it has been home games only really. So it was a big life change to stop going when they moved the club to Northampton. It would be a 120 mile round trip as opposed to 50 at the Ricoh, but I wouldn't have gone had it been Walsall either.

The other issue is that I've become disillusioned with football generally and have little interest in the Premier League. So City was the only football interest at all and that's been taken away. So I haven't seen a single game anywhere this season, City or anyone else. The habit of attending has just about gone, and unless I can have a ST to watch them at the Ricoh next season I doubt I shall ever return now.

Of course I still want the team to do well - they are still the only team for me. But they deserted me, not the other way round. I listen on the radio if I'm around. The interest is definitely waning though and I'm sick and tired of the politics of it all. Like most City fans, I'm not boycotting, I'm just not going any more. And that is what the club need to worry about for the future. People have just moved on.

 

[covcity4life]

FC Cvventry would do for me, no need for singers or anything else tagged on.

 

[italiahorse]

FC Cvventry would do for me, no need for singers or anything else tagged on.

Did the history follow CCFC from Singers ?

 

[valiant15]

I used to have a drink at half time at the Ricoh with my old man and a couple of others one of whom was a chap who was nearly 80. I think he'd been following the city for almost 70 years. Because of his age and his beliefs he doesn't attend sixfields.

I bumped into to him at the legends game earlier this season and he was talking to me about how he might not see ccfc ever play in Coventry again,he was quite tearfull.

What do you say to someone in his position?

Well done tim. What a fantastic job you've done.

 

[The Gentleman]

Still not the same team is it? Coventry sphinx play in sky blue, doesn't mean a thing.

But for all those people on here who say that football is in their blood as is Coventry City, If say a phoenix team sprouted and took the name Coventry 1883 FC and progressed quickly and 4/5 years got to League 1/2, would you not be interested in having a look. If they hit a cup run and it felt like it did before at a top away day, would the bug not return? Besides, it would be a team from Coventry, playing in Coventry wearing Sky Blue. I know it is hard to think about because at present we still have a team, but could people lose the bug that easily about a team for the city, representing the City. I love Coventry City FC but I also love the fact it is (or was) a Saturday with mates watching football.

 

[covcity4life]

I used to have a drink at half time at the Ricoh with my old man and a couple of others one of whom was a chap who was nearly 80. I think he'd been following the city for almost 70 years. Because of his age and his beliefs he doesn't attend sixfields.

I bumped into to him at the legends game earlier this season and he was talking to me about how he might not see ccfc ever play in Coventry again,he was quite tearfull.

What do you say to someone in his position?

Well done tim. What a fantastic job you've done.

it is a disgrace that some old timers might never get the chance to watch CCFC again.

 

[valiant15]

it is a disgrace that some old timers might never get the chance to watch CCFC again.

That's basically what he was saying that he knows his time could be up any day and he might never get the chance to see his team again. I suppose when you get to that age you don't know how long you've got left.

Its very sad all this at the moment.

 

[SkyblueBazza]

It's amazing really how they have detached the fans from the club,

I wonder if they realised it would become this bad. If it bothers them that is has it if they do not give a stuff?

Not just our owners...the FA & FL have disengaged fans from football. In recent months I have tweeted about an issue with a major mobile network, a major hotel brand & a couple of lesser-sized organisations. All responded within 48hrs to see what had gone wrong & ALL satisfactorily resolved the issue.
1.5 weeks ago I tweeted the FA to ask why despite several times unsubscribing from all their emails (in the face of their showing no interest nor support for us "real fans") - I am STILL getting them!!! I have heard nothing because they seem to see the "real fans" simply as suppliers (of money!)


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[covcity4life]

That's basically what he was saying that he knows his time could be up any day and he might never get the chance to see his team again. I suppose when you get to that age you don't know how long you've got left.

Its very sad all this at the moment.

yeh more of an issue for them.

but also anyone of any age, no guarantees in life. supporting a crap team is one thing, but not having a team is another.

 

[fernandopartridge]

But for all those people on here who say that football is in their blood as is Coventry City, If say a phoenix team sprouted and took the name Coventry 1883 FC and progressed quickly and 4/5 years got to League 1/2, would you not be interested in having a look. If they hit a cup run and it felt like it did before at a top away day, would the bug not return? Besides, it would be a team from Coventry, playing in Coventry wearing Sky Blue. I know it is hard to think about because at present we still have a team, but could people lose the bug that easily about a team for the city, representing the City. I love Coventry City FC but I also love the fact it is (or was) a Saturday with mates watching football.

I'd go for the craic but would never have the same feeling towards this new club...

 

[The Gentleman]

I'd go for the craic but would never have the same feeling towards this new club...

But just say you did it a few times and the old feelings of excitement started to re-surface, we've been to lots of away days together and would they be any different to one say in 5 years. Sometimes it doesn't feel any different now to what it did 15-20 years ago and I've no doubt it'll be no different in 20 years time. If our City's football clubs name changed, we are still the same, do the same things and some even wear the same clothes as they did 30 years ago, take F----e for instance, love the man to death but time warp springs to mind.

 

[skybluelee]

You've said yourself that you wouldn't be interested. As a Coventry kid i would.

As a non-Coventry kid so would I. You're talking nonsense with this 'Coventry born' nonsense.

 

[covcity4life]

ccfc only dies if you let it imo.

just transfer the love from current ccfc to a phoneix club if its ever required.

it takes seconds!

 

[fernandopartridge]

But just say you did it a few times and the old feelings of excitement started to re-surface, we've been to lots of away days together and would they be any different to one say in 5 years. Sometimes it doesn't feel any different now to what it did 15-20 years ago and I've no doubt it'll be no different in 20 years time. If our City's football clubs name changed, we are still the same, do the same things and some even wear the same clothes as they did 30 years ago, take F----e for instance, love the man to death but time warp springs to mind.

The day out would probably be the same, probably better as it goes as I'd never be as pissed off after another bad result. I'm sold. When do we start?