Proposal from Sky Blue Trust Members Meeting: Support CCFC Ladies on 16th March (8 Viewers)

[lamtara2006]

A good meeting in the Squirrel last night. Some well received proposals for actions aimed at getting Coventry City back to the Ricoh, including this one.

On 16th March, Coventry City Ladies play Brighton & Hove, kick-off 2pm. This is the same day that CCFC play Port Vale at Sixfields. There was an overall consensus from those attending that it would be worth trying to get a larger crowd at the Ricoh than at Sixfields that afternoon. That probably means we need around 2,000 fans attending the game in Coventry.

It was also proposed that the 'WHY?' display should be repeated - the same as we did at Arsenal and Notts County on 35 minutes, generally agreed to be the best expression of supporters views, certainly since the march last year. Steps are already being taken to get more 'WHY?' signs produced & available.

If we can get a bigger crowd at the Ricoh than at Sixfields, there is a strong chance that we will get TV and media coverage to keep the cause in the limelight. This should also help generate support for the 'Without fans there is no Football' petition.

For those who have not seen Coventry City Ladies play previously, I can assure you that they play some really attractive football. They are currently on a brilliant run of form - I think it is 9 wins in a row in all competitions and 15 unbeaten. Entry is only £5 (£3 concessions) so the match is worth supporting anyway. Their officials are happy to back the cause of getting the Sky Blues back to the Ricoh and would of course like to see a big crowd cheering on the Ladies.

See you there.

 

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[italiahorse]

Are there tickets for sale that we can buy now, but more importantly be able to monitor the progress to 2000+ ?
I can see a a big push of support if it is definitely going to be achieved.

Also nice to go through the motion of going to a home match with a sky blue shirt on. Followed by the casino and a few old friends.

 

[Matty_CCFC]

Never been to a ladies match but will certainly give it a go on 16th.
Be great if we got more at Ricoh than were at Sixfields.

 

[Nick]

I am not too sure, as some people see ACL / CCC also to blame surely it could be seen as backing them? It also alienates trust members who go to Sixfields and seems to be moving away from the "representing all fans" that it was? Not a dig or having a go.

If it was at Bedworth Oval then maybe.

I still think if there was a local non league game on a different day that thousands of city fans turned up to, it would get more press.

I don't see what it could achieve apart from distancing it's self from the club and getting closer to ACL again?

 

[RoboCCFC90]

Is it me being dim or is there genuinely no point this? What will it highlight other than the fans want to be back at the Ricoh, which is something all parties are already aware of, if I was the Trust I would be looking at ways to rebuild bridges with CCFC and looking for a way to try and get all parties round the table for sensible discussions, even if they have to mediate them.

 

[italiahorse]

Is it me being dim or is there genuinely no point this? What will it highlight other than the fans want to be back at the Ricoh, which is something all parties are already aware of, if I was the Trust I would be looking at ways to rebuild bridges with CCFC and looking for a way to try and get all parties round the table for sensible discussions, even if they have to mediate them.

It will be a good day out. Pre match drink, meet some fans, watch the ladies, into the casino.

A few proportion blame to ACL/CCC but this is where we want to be so lets give it a go. What else you doing ?

 

[Grendel]

Well I'm sure that's going to build bridges between the club and the trust.

 

[lamtara2006]

Are there tickets for sale that we can buy now, but more importantly be able to monitor the progress to 2000+ ?
I can see a a big push of support if it is definitely going to be achieved.

Also nice to go through the motion of going to a home match with a sky blue shirt on. Followed by the casino and a few old friends.

Tickets available via this link http://www.ricoharena.com/sport/sport-events/cclfc-bhafc/#.UxCmCCTkV3c.twitter

 

[covcity4life]

sky blue council trust.

 

[Grendel]

sky blue council trust.

They will be offering guided tours of the council house next.

 

[lamtara2006]

I am not too sure, as some people see ACL / CCC also to blame surely it could be seen as backing them? It also alienates trust members who go to Sixfields and seems to be moving away from the "representing all fans" that it was? Not a dig or having a go.

There were members present who attend Sixfields - they raised no objection as they share the wish to get the club back to the Ricoh.

 

[SkyBlueScottie]

Personally think it will be better if those fans attend 6Fields and make life thoroughly uncomfortable (via protest) for the board members present at the game.

 

[edgy]

It will be a good day out. Pre match drink, meet some fans, watch the ladies, into the casino.

A few proportion blame to ACL/CCC but this is where we want to be so lets give it a go. What else you doing ?

A few.... or nearly everyone apart from " a few" on here?

 

[edgy]

Ohh and by the way. I might go, if Sami Ryder is playing. ;-)

 

[Nick]

There were members present who attend Sixfields - they raised no objection as they share the wish to get the club back to the Ricoh.

If you can explain how this will help get us back to the Ricoh I would be happy to attend.

All it seems to do is an us vs them situation again where people have to choose with a bit more division

 

[sky blue john]

Sounds a good idea to me count me in +2
Think I will bring my kids to this one.

 

[RoboCCFC90]

It will be a good day out. Pre match drink, meet some fans, watch the ladies, into the casino.

A few proportion blame to ACL/CCC but this is where we want to be so lets give it a go. What else you doing ?

16th March? Me and a lot of the lads from work are going to watch Exeter vs Newport at Rodney Parade.

 

[skybluetony176]

I am not too sure, as some people see ACL / CCC also to blame surely it could be seen as backing them? It also alienates trust members who go to Sixfields and seems to be moving away from the "representing all fans" that it was? Not a dig or having a go.

If it was at Bedworth Oval then maybe.

I still think if there was a local non league game on a different day that thousands of city fans turned up to, it would get more press.

I don't see what it could achieve apart from distancing it's self from the club and getting closer to ACL again?

By the logic in the first part of your reply you must approve the decision to move to sixfields. Which off course you don't so why apply the same logic.

I agree with your second point though and then disagree with your third point.

 

[sky blue john]

If you can explain how this will help get us back to the Ricoh I would be happy to attend.

All it seems to do is an us vs them situation again where people have to choose with a bit more division

Dur !!!!
The game is at the Ricoh and the aim is for media coverage. Media coverage puts pressure on all parties involved in the decision for ccfc playing at sixfields !!!

 

[covmark]

If you can explain how this will help get us back to the Ricoh I would be happy to attend.

All it seems to do is an us vs them situation again where people have to choose.

It's not going to help us get back to the Ricoh. It's just the trust doing something just for the sake of it.
Like someone said previously, the trust should be making every effort to get both sides back round the table, not alienating themselves with either side.

 

[edgy]

One day it will click with the various “action groups” that the only well supported and successful actions have been away from the two problem areas – The Ricoh and Sixfields.

Staging action at either of those two venues will never gather full support. See The March, Emirates and Meadow Lane.

 

[italiahorse]

A few.... or nearly everyone apart from " a few" on here?

Apologies, I meant ACL are proportional in blame.
The debate on here is what that proportion is.

 

[lamtara2006]

If you can explain how this will help get us back to the Ricoh I would be happy to attend.

All it seems to do is an us vs them situation again where people have to choose with a bit more division

I think it is quite simple - it would show that there are more people prepared to attend a match in Coventry than will travel to Northampton. It's not about taking sides, the meeting also generally acknowledged that no party is blameless in this situation. However, the vast majority of fans want the club back at the Ricoh, this is a way of demonstrating that fact and supporting a team wearing Sky Blue, playing decent football in the City.

No-one is asking those who want to go to Sixfields that day to change their position. This is for those who don't want to / can't travel to Northampton which is clearly a far larger number. As with all these things, personal choices should be respected.

 

[Nick]

I think it is quite simple - it would show that there are more people prepared to attend a match in Coventry than will travel to Northampton. It's not about taking sides, the meeting also generally acknowledged that no party is blameless in this situation. However, the vast majority of fans want the club back at the Ricoh, this is a way of demonstrating that fact and supporting a team wearing Sky Blue, playing decent football in the City.

No-one is asking those who want to go to Sixfields that day to change their position. This is for those who don't want to / can't travel to Northampton which is clearly a far larger number. As with all these things, personal choices should be respected.

It is still putting people in the position of having to choose and causing division. With the Trust openly backing an event at the Ricoh it could be seen as backing ACL again. If it was neutral at say Sphinx or if the Women's team were at the Oval it would be a different story wouldn't it?

It is the same as if the Trust were encouraging people to go to Sixfields, it would be the same but on the other foot.

I think people already know that more people will attend in Coventry than Northampton? It stands out as some sort of response to the SCG meeting to prove a point but all it will do is drive apart the club and trust even more, the way Steve / The trust has been has made them look "above it" and it was great as it only made the club look bad and the trust smell of roses. (in my opinion)

 

[italiahorse]

They will be offering guided tours of the council house next.

It's a game of football in Coventry that people can get too.
You go to Sixfields remember so whats your interest?

You need to let ACL/CCC go pal !!! What do you hope to gain from this ?

Just a matter of interest what proportion of blame do give to this whole sorry episode?

Me .... ACL/CCC 10% SISU 90%

 

[sky blue john]

It's not going to help us get back to the Ricoh. It's just the trust doing something just for the sake of it.
Like someone said previously, the trust should be making every effort to get both sides back round the table, not alienating themselves with either side.

Are you blind ???
The trust have tried trying to influence the club directly and it hasn't worked. They have been ignored by Sisu and threatened with legal action. At the recent meeting ML held a witch hunt.
Do you really want Sisu involved with our club ?????
I'm no big fan of the trust but I applaud them trying something new !!!!

 

[torchomatic]

Well, what happened after Arsenal? The most media coverage we've had so far? A thousand or so going to a women's football match won't make the slightest bit of difference. The Trust needs to lobby all sides not support one of them.

Dur !!!!
The game is at the Ricoh and the aim is for media coverage. Media coverage puts pressure on all parties involved in the decision for ccfc playing at sixfields !!!

 

[sky blue john]

As I no longer live in Cov I will take great pleasure in passing Northampton on my way to this match.

 

[Nick]

Are you blind ???
The trust have tried trying to influence the club directly and it hasn't worked. They have been ignored by Sisu and threatened with legal action. At the recent meeting ML held a witch hunt.
Do you really want Sisu involved with our club ?????
I'm no big fan of the trust but I applaud them trying something new !!!!

Yes but by the Trust remaining balanced and trying to deal with the club it made the Trust look good and showed the club to be petty. Now it seems the Trust are dropping to the club's level out of spite or to prove something?

I agree that if there was some sort of witch hunt, the club should have just come out and said "we think this" so that Steve / Jan could give their version.

 

[RoboCCFC90]

Well I can see what the Trust's aim is and that is to keep the media spotlight on this issue by arranging more fans to attend a women's Football Match rather than do nothing as a protest.

I can't see it being much help to be honest, how many people atteneded the Legends Game at the beginning of the season? 8,000? Yet no budge from the owners of the Football Club, I will support anything that gets the Club back at the Ricoh, but this will achieve nothing IMO.

Fair play to those who plan to attend the game and I hope you enjoy it, I can't help feel though that the Trust are not doing anything to help their relationship with CCFC, the tension is tight between the two parties as it is, yet the Trust continue to edge themselves further away from a resolution? Firstly the backing of PH4 now this, they haven't learnt anything as to why they're not involved directly on the Stadium Comittee.

With the biggest number of members the Trust needs to be doing more than deciding to become an advertising horden for ACL's events.

 

[sky blue john]

Well, what
happened after Arsenal? The most media coverage we've had so far? A thousand or so going to a women's football match won't make the slightest bit of difference. The Trust needs to lobby all sides not support one of them.

Its funny that everyone with a negative attitude to this idea seem to attend sixfields !!

 

[torchomatic]

Its funny that everyone with a negative attitude to this idea seem to attend sixfields !!

About as funny as those who lend more support to the council than ccfc. A bit like yourself.

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[Noggin]

One day it will click with the various “action groups” that the only well supported and successful actions have been away from the two problem areas – The Ricoh and Sixfields.

Staging action at either of those two venues will never gather full support. See The March, Emirates and Meadow Lane.

I'm not sure that completely represents the situation, There has only been one proper protest that required people to attend and that is the march, there however were thousands at the charity match at the Ricoh. The other successful protests were extremely easy for the majority to take part in since they were there already

I think the information we can better conclude about the protests is...

If you want people to attend a protest then it has to be well organised, with the support of the big groups of fans and be well covered by the media, people have to believe that it's going to be successful (I mean well attended) and ideally it has something to attract people like the lady godiva idea. If you can't do all that then if you want your protest to be successful do it where you already have thousands of people to do the protest.

going to support the cov ladies is great, we should probably all do more of that anyway but as a protest idea hasn't this one been tried before and gotten about 400 people?

 

[Nick]

Its funny that everyone with a negative attitude to this idea seem to attend sixfields !!

I attended the charity legends match at the start of the season, I guess it was a bit naive thinking at the time it may help but it was just turned into one big anti SISU event. Whilst I don't particularly like SISU I wanted to go to watch a game of football with some of the past heroes but it just didn't have the same feeling, I wasn't fussed if somebody scored.

At the end Joe Elliott was rolled out and people were worshipping him, literally doing the worship actions to him while he sang SISU Out. It was cringeworthy.

The guy with the camera who kept coming round trying to encourage people to jump up and down and chant about SISU so he could film it, also wasn't for me.

There were a hell of a lot of people there, but it didn't make the slightest bit of difference.

All it will do is cause more division and people will go and watch a game of football they won't particularly enjoy out of spite to just realise it isn't the same as it isn't CCFC

In the last few months I think the Trust were doing a great job, talking through gritted teeth and remaining balanced while the club were being dicks but being professional, I think if this happened it would just undo that great work and have them labelled as "teamed with ACL" again.

 

[PIPSQUEEK]

Its funny that everyone with a negative attitude to this idea seem to attend sixfields !!

My thought exactly