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[h=1]Waggott Reveals Club Ambition[/h]By Covsupport News Service
Updated Monday, 17th March 2014
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Waggott On Club's Ambition

Coventry City Development Officer Steve Waggott has said that the ambition is to have half of the match day squad made up of players who have come through the club's youth development system.
Writing in his notes for the City V Port Vale programme, Mr Waggott said: "My role is to have an eye on next season and, on top of that, the long term future of the club.

Our Category Two status for our Academy is integral to that and the ambition is to see fifty per cent of the first team squad on a matchday represented by players who have come through our youth development system.

"Part of that means developing an even stronger scouting network that builds a wall around the Coventry & Warwickshire area and captures the very best talent we have in our area for Coventry City.
"It also means extending out across the region in a bid to attract talented youngsters from further afield to come into the club at a young age.

"Parents and children alike want to see an opportunity to progress from the youth system into first team football and what this club is showing, with Steven Pressley at the helm, is there is a clear pathway through from Academy to the first team.

"Of course, there will be further challenges ahead but our aim will be to begin next season with a strong squad that can build on the foundations laid this year.
"In the short term, we must ensure we maintain League One status, mid-term, have a squad of players that can get us where we need to get to and long term have a youth development system that keeps producing the next generation of players.

"All of the above looks quite easy when you write it down but it is going to mean a great deal of work and continued investment and getting every single penny possible out onto the pitch."
 

bigfatronssba

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Ffp rules kicking in by the sounds of it.
 

skybluetony176

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It's a shame this wall around Coventry and Warwickshire he's talking about wasn't up before his employers stole the club away to Northamptonshire.
 

lapsed_skyblue

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Will they be building the wall as part of the stadium development? If so, planning permission could be more of a problem than we thought.
 

Spionkop

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Totally meaningless if you don't play in Coventry.
By the way Steve, a lot of your Coventry players will be gone in the summer. Don't try and kid us.
Callum will go. Cyrus will go. Possibility Conor will go. & others like Moussa will be off.
Lying bastards.
 

Mary_Mungo_Midge

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sounds like a plan

It is a plan. But a plan necessary due to our lamentably low gates meaning we have to in order to comply with FFP. There is another alternative headline to this story: 'miscalculation in gate sizes leave City with no choice other than playing kids'. But the one they've run with has a 'favourable slant' to it.

This is actually the model we should have run with seasons go, rather than waste money on crazy contracts. As I stated at the time; have a plan of sustainability and articulate it to the fans and people will buy into it
 
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Mary_Mungo_Midge

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Hasten to add that although this is a plan, it could be seen as reactive to a circumstance where there is no choice.

A but like losing your license through drink driving and then proudly announcing you have a plan to improve fitness by walking more..
 

Bagsy

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Whats the point? The way they are going the club will be dead within 2 years anyway. More Guff
 

ccfcway

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These are the 1st pictures of what the wall could look like. The club will be setting up a "wall forum" to decide the colour of the bricks
 

Senior Vick from Alicante

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[h=1]Waggott Reveals Club Ambition[/h]By Covsupport News Service
Updated Monday, 17th March 2014
Views: 206

Waggott On Club's Ambition

Coventry City Development Officer Steve Waggott has said that the ambition is to have half of the match day squad made up of players who have come through the club's youth development system.
Writing in his notes for the City V Port Vale programme, Mr Waggott said: "My role is to have an eye on next season and, on top of that, the long term future of the club.

Our Category Two status for our Academy is integral to that and the ambition is to see fifty per cent of the first team squad on a matchday represented by players who have come through our youth development system.

"Part of that means developing an even stronger scouting network that builds a wall around the Coventry & Warwickshire area and captures the very best talent we have in our area for Coventry City.
"It also means extending out across the region in a bid to attract talented youngsters from further afield to come into the club at a young age.

"Parents and children alike want to see an opportunity to progress from the youth system into first team football and what this club is showing, with Steven Pressley at the helm, is there is a clear pathway through from Academy to the first team.

"Of course, there will be further challenges ahead but our aim will be to begin next season with a strong squad that can build on the foundations laid this year.
"In the short term, we must ensure we maintain League One status, mid-term, have a squad of players that can get us where we need to get to and long term have a youth development system that keeps producing the next generation of players.

"All of the above looks quite easy when you write it down but it is going to mean a great deal of work and continued investment and getting every single penny possible out onto the pitch."

Personal friend of the wife had two boys at the academy, both deemed not good enough and released but were both picked up by premier league clubs. When the club found this out they went back in for both on improved terms, their mother was under the impression they were only doing it for the chance of financial gain in the future. I just hope SISU don't look at the academy as just another way to line their pockets by signing kids willy nilly so they can claim compensation in the future claiming to have had involvement in their development. Cynical I know but I would not put it past them.
 

fernandopartridge

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Personal friend of the wife had two boys at the academy, both deemed not good enough and released but were both picked up by premier league clubs. When the club found this out they went back in for both on improved terms, their mother was under the impression they were only doing it for the chance of financial gain in the future. I just hope SISU don't look at the academy as just another way to line their pockets by signing kids willy nilly so they can claim compensation in the future claiming to have had involvement in their development. Cynical I know but I would not put it past them.

How else will the club prosper other than developing its own players and selling them on. This is how football clubs have always survived and isn't something that is particular to SISU.
 

RoboCCFC90

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It is a plan. But a plan necessary due to our lamentably low gates meaning we have to in order to comply with FFP. There is another alternative headline to this story: 'miscalculation in gate sizes leave City with no choice other than playing kids'. But the one they've run with has a 'favourable slant' to it.

This is actually the model we should have run with seasons go, rather than waste money on crazy contracts. As I stated at the time; have a plan of sustainability and articulate it to the fans and people will buy into it

It was a model that was designed for this Club ages ago and has nothing to do with this season.
 

rupert_bear

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There is a market for the best Academy kids. Daniel Sturridge was one when he left here and went to Manchester City I think we got around £300k and a sell on clause. And there's a young kid from Coventry Danny Crowley who has signed for Arsenal who was at Villa's academy, shame that wall wasn't built in time to keep him at Coventry
 

stupot07

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It was a model that was designed for this Club ages ago and has nothing to do with this season.

Current, and was the reason they brought Pressley in.


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Mary_Mungo_Midge

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It was a model that was designed for this Club ages ago and has nothing to do with this season.

Well why not implement it 'ages ago', instead of running up huge debts, then?

If they'd have implemented it from the word go; perhaps we wouldn't have run up those huge debts, and be playing in Northampton now, eh?
 

ccfcway

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Well why not implement it 'ages ago', instead of running up huge debts, then?

If they'd have implemented it from the word go; perhaps we wouldn't have run up those huge debts, and be playing in Northampton now, eh?

thats not why we are in Northampton, its the rent remember !
 

lordsummerisle

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Well why not implement it 'ages ago', instead of running up huge debts, then?

If they'd have implemented it from the word go; perhaps we wouldn't have run up those huge debts, and be playing in Northampton now, eh?

That's down to Ranson and his spending of considerable sums on poor players generally, and very poor managers.

He even wanted to get rid of the Academy to save money.
 

RoboCCFC90

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Current, and was the reason they brought Pressley in.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - so please excuse any spelling or grammar errors :)

I disagree and you only have to look at Andy Thorn's tenure in charge to see that, Youth was promoted from within and was given a chance, now in actual fact we got relegated, but had we of kept Juke it might of been different I guess we will never know, the like of Christie, Thomas, Bigi, Ruffels and further youngsters Norwood, Nimely, Gardener and so on, were brought into the Club, problem being was we had a manager who was absolutely useless and couldn't pull it off.

Last season we struggled Thorn was sacked (overdue IMO) and Robins was brought in, now I read a comment recently and I think it may of been a previous set of notes on the Matchday Programmes which stated that the Club tried to bring in Pressley before they brought in Robins, meaning that even then the Club was preparing to bring in the man they felt could manage the set up that they wanted, Robins ended up leaving with his Sky Blue blood and Pressley came in, SP gave Wilson his chance, also Jordan Willis and has now the culture is trying to be changed completely.

This was definitely the plan before this season, I won't disagree that this season has made the ethic at the Club even more demanding but it was in the pipeline beforehand.
 

RoboCCFC90

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Well why not implement it 'ages ago', instead of running up huge debts, then?

If they'd have implemented it from the word go; perhaps we wouldn't have run up those huge debts, and be playing in Northampton now, eh?

We did try to implement it MMM:

I disagree and you only have to look at Andy Thorn's tenure in charge to see that, Youth was promoted from within and was given a chance, now in actual fact we got relegated, but had we of kept Juke it might of been different I guess we will never know, the like of Christie, Thomas, Bigi, Ruffels and further youngsters Norwood, Nimely, Gardener and so on, were brought into the Club, problem being was we had a manager who was absolutely useless and couldn't pull it off.

Last season we struggled Thorn was sacked (overdue IMO) and Robins was brought in, now I read a comment recently and I think it may of been a previous set of notes on the Matchday Programmes which stated that the Club tried to bring in Pressley before they brought in Robins, meaning that even then the Club was preparing to bring in the man they felt could manage the set up that they wanted, Robins ended up leaving with his Sky Blue blood and Pressley came in, SP gave Wilson his chance, also Jordan Willis and has now the culture is trying to be changed completely.

This was definitely the plan before this season, I won't disagree that this season has made the ethic at the Club even more demanding but it was in the pipeline beforehand.

That's down to Ranson and his spending of considerable sums on poor players generally, and very poor managers.

He even wanted to get rid of the Academy to save money.

Lord I don't disgaree with you, during Ranson's tenure this Club had a competitive squad and Ray Ranson's choice of managers was nothing less than shambolic and hence the reason we failed.
 

Mary_Mungo_Midge

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That's down to Ranson and his spending of considerable sums on poor players generally, and very poor managers.

He even wanted to get rid of the Academy to save money.

Wouldn't disagree with that. I'm equally sure you wouldn't deny it's a significant factor in where we currently are. They were also SISU-appointed people though; reporting for, and acting on behalf of SISU.

There are many people culpable in all this; and of course, we all know the rent model won't appropriate. But SISU's early appointments, and the recruitment they oversaw - pitch-side and on the pitch -are huge factors often glossed over.

Forget Mutton or Lucas; Fisher or Waggott - there's only one person who's an ever-constant from the word go. Answers on a postcard, please....
 

Senior Vick from Alicante

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I am on about the fact that as soon as a premier league club came in they saw the opportunity to make some money out of kids that they had not deemed fit to play for us. I fully support the premise that you nurture youngsters through and then sell them on for a large profit, as will probably happen to Wilson in the summer, that's business. But going back to my original point, you cant expect to make money by just signing up any youngster that is local to us expecting a sell on fee. The academy should be used to promote players to make our club better not for profiteering and supporting the owners.
 

hill83

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I am on about the fact that as soon as a premier league club came in they saw the opportunity to make some money out of kids that they had not deemed fit to play for us. I fully support the premise that you nurture youngsters through and then sell them on for a large profit, as will probably happen to Wilson in the summer, that's business. But going back to my original point, you cant expect to make money by just signing up any youngster that is local to us expecting a sell on fee. The academy should be used to promote players to make our club better not for profiteering and supporting the owners.

You are half right, but it's never going to be 'profiteering' is it? We will need 5 Gareth Bales in the next couple of years for that to happen.
 

lordsummerisle

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.....he along with Hoffman and Elliott wasn't it?

Elliottt was just going to be the man to make it palatable to the fans. Been wheeled out by board after board, owner after owner to do that job,without complaint.

Anyway,they soon moved on in that board meeting to the important stuff like making sure that they had the best seats to eat their free meals.
 

covcity4life

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Hasten to add that although this is a plan, it could be seen as reactive to a circumstance where there is no choice.

A but like losing your license through drink driving and then proudly announcing you have a plan to improve fitness by walking more..

agreed

although i have to add its drink driving whilst being forced off the road by an old granny(the council) who should get out of the way.
 

fernandopartridge

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Now we've established that SISU did in fact over spend on players, we can agree then that Andy Thorn had adequate financial support and spending was not the reason why the club was relegated from the Championship in 2012
 

SkyBlueSid

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Totally meaningless if you don't play in Coventry.
By the way Steve, a lot of your Coventry players will be gone in the summer. Don't try and kid us.
Callum will go. Cyrus will go. Possibility Conor will go. & others like Moussa will be off.
Lying bastards.

I agree. What incentive could there be to stay at City when your contract is up? Unless nobody else will offer you a job, of course.

I think Murphy, Moussa and Baker are among those out of contract this summer, and of those only Baker will struggle to get a move on account of his age - but you never know. So they will only be replaced by youngsters as soon we will not even be able to pay the journeymen we employ now. They will also have to cash in on Wilson, Christie and anyone else where they get a serious offer. City have always sold young talent, so in these difficult days why would that change? I dread to think what the squad will look like next season.

The real problem the club will have to address is that Pressley is likely to be a target for bigger/better clubs once the sackings start in April. He has done a great job in awful circumstances and others will naturally have noticed. He may consider that he needs to move on before everything goes completely tits-up. His stock is high now but may not be in a year's time. I would be surprised if he is still here in August. So Waggott's plans are just more pie-in-the-sky.
 

hill83

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Now we've established that SISU did in fact over spend on players, we can agree then that Andy Thorn had adequate financial support and spending was not the reason why the club was relegated from the Championship in 2012

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Sterling Archer

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This FFP is going to ruin a lot of careers for those lower league footballers between the ages of 27 and 34 who seemingly swap clubs/get a new contract every 1 to 2 years. I can see a lot of clubs taking this approach and binning off signing the likes of Andy Webster in order to balance the books by bringing through a youngster instead.
 

RoboCCFC90

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This FFP is going to ruin a lot of careers for those lower league footballers between the ages of 27 and 34 who seemingly swap clubs/get a new contract every 1 to 2 years. I can see a lot of clubs taking this approach and binning off signing the likes of Andy Webster in order to balance the books by bringing through a youngster instead.

Give Willis 18 months he will be first choice Centre Half and better than Webster in every sense.
 

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