Higgs vs CCFC Court Row (18 Viewers)
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spider_ricoh
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so 16 hours of Ronney's time or in other words a single waking day
hill83
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Or Roque Banter Cruz
No it wasn't, but the SISU QC was obviously getting desperate!
sky blue john
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If thats all Sisu have got im sure the council are bricking it for the JR !!!!
Astute
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I thought you said nothing was of relevance in this case. So of course it wasn't. Or was that until you read something that could be seen to go against your most hated enemy CCC? Suddenly it is a thread worth reading.
What about those cool East German 2 stroke cars Tre-Bants !!
Grendel
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Is your real name perry mason?
spider_ricoh
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couldn't agree more...when will this saga ever end???
in a way i would like to tune out and re-surface when it has all blown over and we're back at the Ricoh (which will surely happen at some point once everyone has done their utmost to save face, which is clearly what this is about now).
however it is also morbidly fascinated, like watching a car crash in slow motion.
lordsummerisle
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Don't worry, Tonylinc will be along soon to explain the legal ins and outs.
He's a lawyer apparently.
spider_ricoh
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Well I've worked in a legal environment with lots of contract experience and, trying to be independent here, SISU's case looks pretty weak. Can't say for sure but on the basis of today I'd guess the judge is going to award the £29k to Higgs.
Shame this has come first because one side effect could be that SISU raise their game for the big cup final against CCC in June. We simply cannot afford them to win that if we are going to get a CCFC back at the Ricoh under non-SISU ownership.
Raymond Burr !! Spooky those Intials.
duffer
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I'm trying to think what SISU have got so far that helps them in the JR. A council officer may or may not have misled someone from Higgs, but what difference does that make to SISU's case? We know that SISU threatened to pull out of CCFC in April 2012, and stopped paying the rent at the same time.
That clearly threatened ACL (and CCFC incidentally), and the council as a shareholder to ACL were surely entitled to act to protect their investment.
The one thing that does seem clear now, is that there's no question that AEHC and CCC acted in concert to push out SISU.
That clearly threatened ACL (and CCFC incidentally), and the council as a shareholder to ACL were surely entitled to act to protect their investment.
The one thing that does seem clear now, is that there's no question that AEHC and CCC acted in concert to push out SISU.
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Fuck me, 114 pages.
Might catch up by the time of the JR
Might catch up by the time of the JR
lordsummerisle
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I'd be extremely surprised if Higgs don't win this case, think Sisu would be even more surprised.
The only doubt would be if the agreement by Sisu to pay the Higgs costs was tied up in the HOT agreeement, which as we all know wasn't signed.
lordsummerisle
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Nick
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Banter claus pulls one out of his gag sack
spider_ricoh
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You wonder why SISU have brought the counter-suit really, unless you believe ACL's claim that Joy told them SISU would harrass ACL with litigation at every opportunity until they got the Ricoh for £4m with no negotation. That was said before the JR application was made so even if she didn't say that, the facts are bearing this out as SISU strategy.
lordsummerisle
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Well, I'm from Banton Rouge originally.
Does that last line indicate certainty ,and push out SISU from what exactly.
lordsummerisle
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Counter-suit merely a diversionary/warning tactic I'd have thought.
Don't think it was brought to get more information for Sisu either, as it seems from their questioning that they would have already known about anything "revealed" today.
spider_ricoh
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Not sure you an be certain based on what we've seen today, but he is talking about whether those two organisation worked together to force SISU out of ownership of CCFC.
In fairness to SISU (cough cough), I do remember around the time ACL made their application for admin that someone from ACL said "we want to get a new tenant into the stadium" and that was clearly described as a new owner of CCFC. It was in the CT at the time, maybe even have been PWKH
Astute
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I am hoping and looking forward to Timothy taking to the stand. He would have to tell the truth and not spin his way through the questions. We could find some good stuff out. And so far it looks like we have had nothing but the truth so lies from him would stand out.
Grilled Fish sounds good
Grilled Fish sounds good
Nick
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Yes they seem to know it but didn't have the proof
shmmeee
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The thing with this for me is: Joy has said previously she will liquidate. Fisher has said we will liquidate. ACL/CCC/Higgs stand to lose millions so apply for admin to prevent this. Everyone believes the club will have a new owner until Fisher pulls the GS bullshit and we're back to square Northampton.
Regardless of the legality of the Golden Share transfer, it wasn't public knowledge beforehand AFAIK, so it's a fair assumption that ACL/CCC/Higgs thought that Sisu would leave the club (as threatened) if not given the Ricoh.
That's hardly pushing someone out or looking for a new tenant, it's taking someone at their word.
spider_ricoh
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Disagree - SISU threatened to liquidatae if they didn't get the deal, or at least stop funding the club. ACL didn't agree the deal, effectively calling the SISU bluff. It worked as SISU continued to fund ACL.
Nick
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If they thought their actions would make sisu leave, safe to say that is pushing them out?
shmmeee
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I think the non-payment was just Sisu being Sisu TBF, rather than any brilliant plot to expose the Council plot. Of course, once it's there they'd take the chance to see what they can get. I'm not 100% sure that the JR is about getting the Ricoh in compensation as much as another stick to beat CCC with in their threat to sue them into submission. The longer this goes on, the less sure I am there is a great master plan on either side and it's all just a great big clusterfuck with two groups with different aims at the heart of it.
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And alas, the football club is probably the sideshow for them all!