Judicial review day 3 - judgement day (7 Viewers)

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ecky

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If sisu had pumped as much money into the squad as they have in legal costs we would have been pushing to get back into the premiership by now..

If you lose the jr joy do us all a favor and do one.
 
Hobo

Hobo

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fernandopartridge said:
I think you're reading too much into that. As far as I'm aware (and my job involves spending public money) there isn't a mechanism for notifying the EU.
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The proposal should go to the European Commission for them to investigate whether it would be deemed state aid.

That is my understanding
 
shmmeee

shmmeee

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fernandopartridge said:
Can we stop this 'community asset' nonsense about the Ricoh. The last time I looked it was a closed environment.
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Is the Cathedral not a community asset then, by that logic? Not sure something has to be free to all to be an asset to the community does it? I have to pay to use my car, it's still an asset. Unless there's some technical definition I'm not getting.
 
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We are back in Court 18. Sisu QC responding to what the council and ACL QCs said yesterday and today.
 
shmmeee

shmmeee

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fernandopartridge said:
How do you notify the commission that you're about to spend over £200k?

What's the process?

I don't think there is one. It's reactive and might be something that comes up if you're audited.
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Ah, got ya. So it was the EU's job to ask about? So, the council have done nothing wrong in not telling them? (but may still have effected competition and/or worked on inaccurate info)
 
ccfcway

ccfcway

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into the final leg now. my money is still on "it was illegal, but was forced due to rent strike"
 
shmmeee

shmmeee

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ccfcway said:
into the final leg now. my money is still on "it was illegal, but was forced due to rent strike"
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I'm getting that suspicion. Some processes weren't followed, but the decision was rushed due to pressures put in place by Sisu.
 
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Sisu QC says council QC didn’t respond to Sisu claims on shareholder value for the council after the loan was made.
 
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Jack Griffin

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Godiva said:
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa...-state-aid-notification-process-flowchart.pdf
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I've got a better one..
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Sub

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Sisu QC says club paid highest rent and got lowest match day revenues (none) in the league while at the Ricoh Arena.
 
ccfcway

ccfcway

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shmmeee said:
I'm getting that suspicion. Some processes weren't followed, but the decision was rushed due to pressures put in place by Sisu.
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wonder where that would leave SISU ?

I suppose they wouldn't mind, as the overall concern was getting all of this vital info out into the open so the fans could judge
 
fernandopartridge

fernandopartridge

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shmmeee said:
Is the Cathedral not a community asset then, by that logic? Not sure something has to be free to all to be an asset to the community does it? I have to pay to use my car, it's still an asset. Unless there's some technical definition I'm not getting.
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No. It belongs to the church.
 
duffer

duffer

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shmmeee said:
The Twitter account is linked to by the Telegraph and he links back, it also doesn't say it's his personal views it just portrays his journalistic credentials, if he wants a personal account he should create one. I have multiple personal and work accounts for various purposes.
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In truth shmeee, it outlines who he's worked for and says. "My view". Since when did we get the right to sack people (if that is what's been done) because they got into rows on twitter?
 
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Simon Gilbert@TheSimonGilbert · 23s Sisu QC says hostility played part in council's ACL loan decision. " Hell will freeze over" line quoted again.
 
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Sub

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Sisu QC says council’s Chris West said “hell would freeze over” before Sisu got a stake in the stadium.

Judge puts it to Sisu QC that: “Sisu at all times was insisting on having a stake in the stadium.” Says Sisu was only interested in a deal that included share in the Ricoh.

Sisu QC says Sisu would have done a deal that included a share in matchday revenues. He says Coventry City paid the highest rent but also got the lowest share of revenues - nothing
 
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duffer said:
In truth shmeee, it outlines who he's worked for and says. "My view". Since when did we get the right to sack people (if that is what's been done) because they got into rows on twitter?
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It's the problem with the modern age; communication's easier but it's also more 'public'.

It's the same as if I get in a row with my neighbour or down the pub, and punch someone. If my employer doesn't find out, they don't care... but if they do I'm probably in a wee bit of shit.

This 'ere interweb thingy makes it easier for employers to find out, and the rows on twitter can become the online equivalent of that fight down the pub if you're not careful.

I don't agree, btw... have more sympathy to your viewpoint... but that's the way it is.
 
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shmmeee said:
Fair point. Herbert Art Gallery? Sports Centre?
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Herbert Art Gallery is a Trust isn't it? ;)

Also, a fine example for a rant about government funding things based on economic rather than social considerations, as their funding from local givernment has been slashed to an inch of its life!
 
Jim

Jim

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Sisu QC says council’s Chris West said “hell would freeze over” before Sisu got a stake in the stadium.

Judge puts it to Sisu QC that: “Sisu at all times was insisting on having a stake in the stadium.” Says Sisu was only interested in a deal that included share in the Ricoh.

Sisu QC says Sisu would have done a deal that included a share in matchday revenues. He says Coventry City paid the highest rent but also got the lowest share of revenues - nothing
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They got nothing because CCFC sold the rights to revenue for several million pounds. Can't have your cake and eat it SISU.
 
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Simon Gilbert@TheSimonGilbert · 6s Sisu QC says cash balances were used to randomly add value to ACL.

 
duffer

duffer

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Originally Posted by H.L. Mencken For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong.
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Cuts both ways that, Godiva, but I'd have to admit that's a favourite quote of mine too. :)
 
shmmeee

shmmeee

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duffer said:
In truth shmeee, it outlines who he's worked for and says. "My view". Since when did we get the right to sack people (if that is what's been done) because they got into rows on twitter?
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Dude. The name of the account is Les Reid Politics. It's obviously a professional account. And again, even if it is a personal account, he was dealing with customers. I'm often found on personal accounts by people I have a professional relationship to, or who would impact my professional standing, I'm self aware enough to not speak to them like shit no matter what I think of them. And mate, check the news, people are sent to jail for things they say on Twitter.


Edit: dammit! You got me. Sorry ccfcway. I'm staying out of it.
 
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