Bournemouth - your having a laugh (8 Viewers)

[Otis]

Otis all well and good quoteing finishing places for last 30 years.... True facts are this i am 42 years old and although i would never class myself as a proper Sky Blue i used to love standing on the West Terrace as a kid next to my Coventry family, but if i am honest there was only really a few highlights and most of those were when we survived relegation on the last day of a season.

Coventry is no doubt a bigger club than AFC Bournemouth, however they are a club on the up with owners who are willing to finance success and spend alot of money on youth development aswell. Coventry City is a club that is dying slowly and it is very sorry to watch. Even if the club does return to the ricoh i suspect they will be playing infront of 10-12,000 people (after the initial novalty wears off) as alot of the "fans" now as so dissillusioned that they have filled their saturdays with other stuff.

Yes Bournemouth only get crowds of 10-12,000 as for alot of the games they sell out and even if not a sell out the ground has a great atmosphere unlike a sparsely filled ricoh with a few die hard under the scoreboard making the only noise that can be heard above the hum of the A444 in the distance.

What i find most offensive about some of the comments on here is the narrow minded idiots that have a total lack of respect for other clubs..... When after all most of us football fans of other clubs long to see the day that Coventry City returns to the good times..... Anyway enough of the rant but please stop trying to act and sound like fans of Leeds United with your arrogant attitutes towards other smaller (but currently doing better) clubs.

As I alluded to in my post, I am not being at all arrogant and pointed to our decline, which clearly shows that we are not a big club at the moment and Bournemouth are indeed a bigger club.

It's time for City fans to face the reality that we are just a very average League One side and now that now sits very uncomfortably in tandem with very low crowds to boot.

 

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[Astute]

Traditionally we have had better home gates, a more successful history, the brand of Coventry City is bigger than AFC Bournemouth. Yes it's very easy to look at current Club positions and try to establish who the bigger Club is, but it doesn't change over night.

Bournemouth are well run Club hence there current position and it shows what can happen if you do things in the right manner, unlike the likes of us and Portsmouth for instance.

That all sounds good. But it is living in the past. We have become a piss poor Division 3 side. And getting out of Division 3 won't happen overnight as we have found out. And with the major debts held against our club it could be a long time before we start to improve.

 

[RoboCCFC90]

That all sounds good. But it is living in the past. We have become a piss poor Division 3 side. And getting out of Division 3 won't happen overnight as we have found out. And with the major debts held against our club it could be a long time before we start to improve.

It's not living in the past at all, as I said earlier those slating that we should be angry that we sold our best player to Bournemouth is wrong, but we are a bigger Club still than Bournemouth, you can't base a bigger Club on league position, as for instance would you suggest Portsmouth are a smaller Club than Bournemouth? We have struggled for a long time, this is accurate and there are very many scenario's which have led us to the predicaments we have become accustom to, but to state we are a smaller Club than Bournemouth is inaccurate.

 

[ccfcway]

good luck to him

 

[RoboCCFC90]

a CCFC to win League One and Portsmouth to win League Two double will bring you 250/1

Ha! I can't see that happening, our season will be defined on what players we bring in before the season begins.

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

A better/well run club? Yes. A bigger/more successful club? No.

 

[Astute]

It's not living in the past at all, as I said earlier those slating that we should be angry that we sold our best player to Bournemouth is wrong, but we are a bigger Club still than Bournemouth, you can't base a bigger Club on league position, as for instance would you suggest Portsmouth are a smaller Club than Bournemouth? We have struggled for a long time, this is accurate and there are very many scenario's which have led us to the predicaments we have become accustom to, but to state we are a smaller Club than Bournemouth is inaccurate.

So how many years being below them and having lower crowds does it take before you would consider them to be a bigger club than ours?

As things stand they are bigger than us. As I said earlier we have the potential to be back. But we have become a Division 3 club..........and not a very good one either.

 

[Astute]

Just looked. Bournemouth are the same odds to get promoted to the Prem as we are to get promoted to the Championship.

 

[RoboCCFC90]

So how many years being below them and having lower crowds does it take before you would consider them to be a bigger club than ours?

As things stand they are bigger than us. As I said earlier we have the potential to be back. But we have become a Division 3 club..........and not a very good one either.

I don't know if I ever would consider them being a bigger Club than us, they are a well run Club and have benefitted from that, but Coventry City is a bigger Club and brand then AFC Bournemouth.

 

[Astute]

I don't know if I ever would consider them being a bigger Club than us, they are a well run Club and have benefitted from that, but Coventry City is a bigger Club and brand then AFC Bournemouth.

Even our brand has been devalued. How many companies want to be associated with us now?

 

[RoboCCFC90]

Even our brand has been devalued. How many companies want to be associated with us now?

Okay then Astute let's play a game, tell me out the five which Clubs are bigger than the teams I have paired them with:

Manchester City - Manchester United
Nottingham Forest - QPR
Derby - Wolves
Portsmouth - Bristol City
Sheffield United - Rotherham



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[Astute]

Okay then Astute let's play a game, tell me out the five which Clubs are bigger than the teams I have paired them with:

Manchester City - Manchester United
Nottingham Forest - QPR
Derby - Wolves
Portsmouth - Bristol City
Sheffield United - Rotherham



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I don't follow football much these days. I don't watch it on TV. There is only one team I am interested in now. So I could compare us to them. And most of them clubs are bigger than us.

 

[Otis]

A better/well run club? Yes. A bigger/more successful club? No.

More successful? :thinking about:


Old First Division champions twice, runners up six times. FA Cup winners twice.


Preston North End.



Can't talk on past glories. Sounds just like a Wolves fan I used to work with, banging on about Wolves being the best team in the country. When was he talking about? The 1950's!!

 

[RoboCCFC90]

I don't follow football much these days. I don't watch it on TV. There is only one team I am interested in now. So I could compare us to them. And most of them clubs are bigger than us.

That's exactly what I knew you would say...


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[Mr T - Sukka!]

Coventry City FC are no longer a big club.

At present we are in Division 3.

In Northampton.

Playing to a few hundred paying fans.

CCFC were big but that was the 60s,70s,80s,90s,00s.

We are now minnows. On par with Fleetwood and Rochdale.

Like it or not this is the SISU legacy.

 

[Otis]

Can't see how you can argue we are a big club on the back of the attendances we are now getting and the low league placings we have had for many many years whichever division we have been in.

We are no longer a big club. We used to be, we are no more.

We can be again of course, but we need the crowds and the success to be so.

 

[Colonel Mustard]

A better/well run club? Yes. A bigger/more successful club? No.

Unfortunately, 'bigger and more successful' counts for nothing except as a last resort of pride for fans. Any player who cites that as a reason for joining a club is just giving lip service; it's about as sincere as kissing the badge.

A player today is offered the choice between joining Bournemouth or Blackburn. They should have no reason to care that Blackburn won the Premier League nearly 20 years ago. What they will care about are wages (first and foremost); level of football; playing opportunity; chance of success; the local area.

By those basic standards, Bournemouth are a better club than CCFC. That's all that matters. But y'know, CCFC have potential - always have done - and if they ever have owners who get their act together, then CCFC could be a better club than Bournemouth again.

 

[Astute]

That's exactly what I knew you would say...


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Just like we know you will try anything to make us sound bigger and better than we are. But we are not anymore. Thank you SISU.

 

[Paxman II]

Oh get over yourselves comparing who has the biggest dick!

Truth is simple.

man City were a club in decline in the same league we are in now. BUT they are traditionally a much bigger club than say Bournemouth and over time and the right ownership to right the ship again they are where they belong again.

The exact same thing can be said for Coventry City. They are a bigger club than Bournemouth will ever be and when the right owners come along we will rise again back o our rightful place.

There are many clubs in the premier league that are traditionally smaller than others unfortunate enough to be lower in the leagues right now. Does not make them a bigger club.
Leeds Utd are a classic case, clearly the biggest club outside the premiership. If Bournemouth got promoted to the premiership and Leeds remained in the championship, does that make Bournemouth a bigger club? I think not!

 

[Astute]

Oh get over yourselves comparing who has the biggest dick!

Truth is simple.

man City were a club in decline in the same league we are in now. BUT they are traditionally a much bigger club than say Bournemouth and over time and the right ownership to right the ship again they are where they belong again.

The exact same thing can be said for Coventry City. They are a bigger club than Bournemouth will ever be and when the right owners come along we will rise again back o our rightful place.

There are many clubs in the premier league that are traditionally smaller than others unfortunate enough to be lower in the leagues right now. Does not make them a bigger club.
Leeds Utd are a classic case, clearly the biggest club outside the premiership. If Bournemouth got promoted to the premiership and Leeds remained in the championship, does that make Bournemouth a bigger club? I think not!

Was Leeds a good choice to try and make a point?

What attendances do Leeds get compared to Bournemouth? What attendances do Leeds get to all other clubs outside the Prem?

This is why they are still a big club.

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

All good points but I still maintain that we are a bigger club than Bournemouth

 

[Colonel Mustard]

Leeds Utd are a classic case, clearly the biggest club outside the premiership. If Bournemouth got promoted to the premiership and Leeds remained in the championship, does that make Bournemouth a bigger club? I think not!

In that scenario, Bournemouth would have a higher wage bill, be able to attract better players, have larger revenue, greater global exposure, and play against elite teams. By pretty much every measure that counts, Bournemouth would be the superior team. 'Bigger' is just a redundant adjective that is thrown around in sports.

 

[Otis]

In that scenario, Bournemouth would have a higher wage bill, be able to attract better players, have larger revenue, greater global exposure, and play against elite teams. By pretty much every measure that counts, Bournemouth would be the superior team. 'Bigger' is just a redundant adjective that is thrown around in sports.

And by new girlfriends when talking about their ex lovers.

 

[Paxman II]

In that scenario, Bournemouth would have a higher wage bill, be able to attract better players, have larger revenue, greater global exposure, and play against elite teams. By pretty much every measure that counts, Bournemouth would be the superior team. 'Bigger' is just a redundant adjective that is thrown around in sports.

Ridiculous. Ask Steven Pressley if he would rather manage Leeds or Bournemouth? His first words would be how proud he was to be at a massive club....that club would be Leeds.

 

[SkyBlueHomer]

Never really understood the big club mentality.
Take the likes of Spurs, Newcastle & Sunderland for example who have been for years put on a pedestal as a big clubs & where has it got them?
At the minute Bournemouth are a much more attractive prospect than us currently. I'm not saying this wont change but currently its a fact.
If I was a player at CCFC I would be hounding my agent to get me out of here, these players are not on £100k a week & want like any working man a stable wage. This club at the minute is a bad joke.

To Wilson thanks for last season & good luck, hope you bang in 20+ next season.
Hopefully we'll be able to welcome him back at some point.

 

[Covstu]

Great stepping stone for him in my opinion, he has the chance to shine in the championship and then 'bigger' clubs will go in for him. The competition for places in Norwich is far greater than Bournemouth so if he wants game time then its a no brainer.

As for the big club debate, you are only as good as your recent success and performance. Newcastle are a mid table club in the prem, doesn't matter how many supporters they have, if they don't have success it doesn't mean shit. Leeds living on past glories, again a mid table championship club.

 

[SkyblueBazza]

Never really understood the big club mentality.
Take the likes of Spurs, Newcastle & Sunderland for example who have been for years put on a pedestal as a big clubs & where has it got them?
At the minute Bournemouth are a much more attractive prospect than us currently. I'm not saying this wont change but currently its a fact.
If I was a player at CCFC I would be hounding my agent to get me out of here, these players are not on £100k a week & want like any working man a stable wage. This club at the minute is a bad joke.

To Wilson thanks for last season & good luck, hope you bang in 20+ next season.
Hopefully we'll be able to welcome him back at some point.

As Clubs are now run as businesses I guess turnover is a fair measure of how "big" they are. Newcastle, Spurs have bigger turnover than the like of Stoke, West Brom & Southampton.
Traditional "big" clubs like Wolves & Vile were big because of their successes on the pitch, which bought in fans...& income...& passion & glory.
I think "professionalism" killed all that in this country though.


PUSB

 

[Covstu]

As Clubs are now run as businesses I guess turnover is a fair measure of how "big" they are. Newcastle, Spurs have bigger turnover than the like of Stoke, West Brom & Southampton.
Traditional "big" clubs like Wolves & Vile were big because of their successes on the pitch, which bought in fans...& income...& passion & glory.
I think "professionalism" killed all that in this country though.


PUSB

sadly true, all about the money!

 

[fernandopartridge]

It makes me laugh, that many fans have accepted that selling yet another young player is good business - I could probably understand a little if they had sold him to Liverpool, Man-Utd, or spurs, but no the mighty Bournemouth with massive crowds of 7,000 - 8,000 in the championship and these crowds are when they are doing well - actually shows how far we have dropped when teams like Bournemouth, a club in administration in 2008 are attracting our players, but good luck to them as they are obviously have been steered very well -

Have a day off. Crowds are irrelevant when you've got millions burning a hole in your pocket. Remember when Blackburn bought a team on miniscule crowds?

 

[Covstu]

fans don't attract players, cash does....

 

[Colonel Mustard]

Ridiculous. Ask Steven Pressley if he would rather manage Leeds or Bournemouth? His first words would be how proud he was to be at a massive club....that club would be Leeds.

Ask Mark Robins if he'd rather manage Coventry or Huddersfield...

If Pressley were handed the choice, he'd perhaps pick Leeds. They are in the same division as Bournemouth, have the bigger ground and potential for growth, but are also something of a basketcase. Bournemouth, on the other hand, are a well-run club offering him a good shot at advancement.

But that argument you made is bogus. The original context was Bournemouth being in the Premier League. Under those circumstances, I am in no doubt that Pressley would choose Bournemouth over a second-tier Leeds.

 

[SkyBlueHomer]

As Clubs are now run as businesses I guess turnover is a fair measure of how "big" they are. Newcastle, Spurs have bigger turnover than the like of Stoke, West Brom & Southampton.
Traditional "big" clubs like Wolves & Vile were big because of their successes on the pitch, which bought in fans...& income...& passion & glory.
I think "professionalism" killed all that in this country though.


PUSB

Maybe I'm just a traditionalist then, if your a big club you don't need to go shouting how big you are. Plenty of championship clubs will moan and say they are bigger than the likes of Hull, Palace, Burnley & recently relegated Wigan, Fulham but they are there/were there on merit.

They say every dog has its day, we're well overdue ours.

 

[mighty quinn]

It makes me laugh, that many fans have accepted that selling yet another young player is good business - I could probably understand a little if they had sold him to Liverpool, Man-Utd, or spurs, but no the mighty Bournemouth with massive crowds of 7,000 - 8,000 in the championship and these crowds are when they are doing well - actually shows how far we have dropped when teams like Bournemouth, a club in administration in 2008 are attracting our players, but good luck to them as they are obviously have been steered very well -

Agree totally.

 

[SkyblueBazza]

Maybe I'm just a traditionalist then, if your a big club you don't need to go shouting how big you are. Plenty of championship clubs will moan and say they are bigger than the likes of Hull, Palace, Burnley & recently relegated Wigan, Fulham but they are there/were there on merit.

They say every dog has its day, we're well overdue ours.

Sadly too many Cov fans are still living the dream instead of looking at the harsh reality.

They expect us to beat the Rotherhams of this world...still believe we have the right to be in the PL over the Crystal Palaces, Hulls & Burnleys there currently...despite when it comes to living off past glories the latter leave us trailing in their wake.


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[afcb1]

Jim the cherry

I grew up in Cov and as a kid was at Highfield Road most games and was at the 1987 cup final, last game at Highfield Road, First game at Ricoh, Wolves and Chelsea games at Ricoh with massive crowds etc.

now a cherry :thinking about:and calling you tossers.

How the fuck does that happen ?