Dear Sky Blue Trust (6 Viewers)

[Deleted member 5849]

I have been particularly pleased with your efforts over the past year, an element of professionalism has come into your operations, the desire to question anybody such as the excellent Q&A on your site shows your awareness of the need for answers, and although sometimes an attempt to adopt a neutral stance sees you maybe shy a little over-much away from asking the difficult questions in public to any side, the march in July was an excellently organised show of strength by the Sky Blue Army. It showed we mattered, it showed we exist.

And this positivity is surely something to build on. This shows that the Sky Blue Army can unite together, and be a passionate force for good. It shows that doing works better than any other approach to drawing attention towards our plight.

So it is with concern that I read of the motion, part of which calls for a total boycott of Sixfields. I understand the desire and sentiment to punish our owners, but I have also seen the most effective ways of publicising our existence have been approaches other than this. What concerns me more however is the sheer impracticality of expecting 100% compliance; if there is a point to be made with low attendances, it has been made. Worse, the desire to make non attendance 100% serves to deflect attention from our plight. Time that should be spent rightly calling to account the protagonists in this farce, be it SISU, ACL, CCC or the Football League, is instead spent turning on fellow fans. This happens as it is, we do not need a mandate, even if unwitting, from the leading supporters' body. What does this serve? And more, who does it serve? Not us, as we need every man, boy and child behind us when we do return to the city (and it will happen, in some form). Whatever others do, we can fight to keep ourselves together whatever our differences.

The beauty of coming from Coventry is it is a cosmopolitan city. We welcome all, we are tolerant of all, and we allow cultures to flourish. We need to show tolerance of others’ views, and we need to focus on events that can bring us together, not split us apart. Please think before voting on this resolution what the consequences may be for our own fanbase, for if anybody is to blame it is not us. Remember, we are all victims in this, do not make this worse by punishing ourselves.

 

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[jimmyhillsfanclub]

Great post NW. Bang on the money.

Not seen it 1st hand but sounds like a
Stupid unworkable unattainable motion by sbt

 

[Deleted member 5849]

It's not by the Sky Blue Trust, it's raised by one of their members, as they have every right to do.

It concerns me however, so I thought I'd raise my concerns via the safety of an anonymous message board first

 

[Deleted member 5849]

The resolution in full.

Resolution 2 proposed by Bruce Walker
The Trust can no longer sit on the fence while our Club is being destroyed. The Trust must represent and give voice to its members, and in particular must:
1. Call for a complete supporters' boycott of City matches at Sixfields.
2. Increase pressure on the Football League to bring about a return of the Club to the Ricoh Arena from the start of the 2014/15 season, by using their powers to encourage the Club and its owners to enter into negotiations with Coventry City Council, ACL and other interested parties who could facilitate such a return, and to ensure that any proposed return is approved by the League as quickly as possible.
3. Take over the www.FixFootball.co.uk petition and use the Trust's fighting fund, other resources and links with Supporters Direct and other fan groups to promote it.
4. Start a campaign of contacting known or suspected SISU investors, drawing their attention to the current position.

 

[Samo]

I had also composed a letter, mine reads: Sky Blue Trust - shut it you tarts! I think yours may be even better, although lacking in subtlety.

 

[jimmyhillsfanclub]

Oh I understand now. I know I, m weary of the whole saga but I do try to keep up.. . Thought I, d missed a major sbt shift in strategy...

...anyway, in that case, dunno why you bothered writing all that guff.. .

 

[Deleted member 5849]

...anyway, in that case, dunno why you bothered writing all that guff.. .

Because if it's passed, I fear for our fanbase and I fear all the positive effects of Saturday go out the window.

 

[jimmyhillsfanclub]

I was just being a little cheeky really whilst also suggesting (hoping) that it won't pass.

 

[percy]

great post NW. i think the total boycott notion tho is designed to raise a bit more awareness of our plight rather than be divisive. for me, the less people that go there the better and if absolutely no one went then we might be closer to coming home than we find ourselves at present

 

[Monners]

I suspect it won't get carried anyway. If I were a member, I would vote against as it is divisive in my view. Interesting, TF is pressuring one of our supporters groups with a George Bush style "you are either with us or against us" line. I have voted against any change in stance on the current view point. A bit tired of his bullying.

 

[sky blue john]

Lol !!
Now its the trusts turn to take a battering from the misguided small minded few on here...

 

[sky blue john]

I had also composed a letter, mine reads: Sky Blue Trust - shut it you tarts! I think yours may be even better, although lacking in subtlety.

Seems that anyone or group who tries to get ccfc back to cov come under abuse !!!!

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Lol !!
Now its the trusts turn to take a battering from the misguided small minded few on here...

'Battering' eh?

I have been particularly pleased with your efforts over the past year, an element of professionalism has come into your operations, the desire to question anybody such as the excellent Q&A on your site shows your awareness of the need for answers, and although sometimes an attempt to adopt a neutral stance sees you maybe shy a little over-much away from asking the difficult questions in public to any side, the march in July was an excellently organised show of strength by the Sky Blue Army. It showed we mattered, it showed we exist.

If you think that's a battering, you don't know you're born.

 

[RoboCCFC90]

I have been particularly pleased with your efforts over the past year, an element of professionalism has come into your operations, the desire to question anybody such as the excellent Q&A on your site shows your awareness of the need for answers, and although sometimes an attempt to adopt a neutral stance sees you maybe shy a little over-much away from asking the difficult questions in public to any side, the march in July was an excellently organised show of strength by the Sky Blue Army. It showed we mattered, it showed we exist.

And this positivity is surely something to build on. This shows that the Sky Blue Army can unite together, and be a passionate force for good. It shows that doing works better than any other approach to drawing attention towards our plight.

So it is with concern that I read of the motion, part of which calls for a total boycott of Sixfields. I understand the desire and sentiment to punish our owners, but I have also seen the most effective ways of publicising our existence have been approaches other than this. What concerns me more however is the sheer impracticality of expecting 100% compliance; if there is a point to be made with low attendances, it has been made. Worse, the desire to make non attendance 100% serves to deflect attention from our plight. Time that should be spent rightly calling to account the protagonists in this farce, be it SISU, ACL, CCC or the Football League, is instead spent turning on fellow fans. This happens as it is, we do not need a mandate, even if unwitting, from the leading supporters' body. What does this serve? And more, who does it serve? Not us, as we need every man, boy and child behind us when we do return to the city (and it will happen, in some form). Whatever others do, we can fight to keep ourselves together whatever our differences.

The beauty of coming from Coventry is it is a cosmopolitan city. We welcome all, we are tolerant of all, and we allow cultures to flourish. We need to show tolerance of others’ views, and we need to focus on events that can bring us together, not split us apart. Please think before voting on this resolution what the consequences may be for our own fanbase, for if anybody is to blame it is not us. Remember, we are all victims in this, do not make this worse by punishing ourselves.

Grade A post NW..


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[Ian1779]

Seems that anyone or group who tries to get ccfc back to cov come under abuse !!!!

So you were completely in 100% agreement with their open letter last week??

 

[Nick]

Lol !!
Now its the trusts turn to take a battering from the misguided small minded few on here...

Battering where? Jesus Christ

 

[Moff]

Seems that anyone or group who tries to get ccfc back to cov come under abuse !!!!

John, that post is Grade A Bellend.

 

[RoboCCFC90]

John, that post is Grade A Bellend.

Let's clear something up here:

NW Post - Grade A (for Amazeballs!)

John's Post - Grade AB (Absolute Bellend)

Hope that clears it up!


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[Nick]

Seems that anyone or group who tries to get ccfc back to cov come under abuse !!!!

Abuse? Really????

 

[Samo]

Seems that anyone or group who tries to get ccfc back to cov come under abuse !!!!

Nick, now can I call him a thick twat?

 

[Covstu]

NW, a very good and practical post (no abuse in fact the opposite). Even IF all city fans stopped attending it wouldn't make the ground empty, the battle is elsewhere. The march last week has started some momentum and we need to continue this, we are being noticed by parties that were not directly involved before and now is the time to capitalise on this. The bits about going after shareholders etc is a waste of time, they would never stop their interest and probably have very little interest in where the money is specifically going unless it doesn't yield a return.

 

[sky blue john]

Nick, now can I call him a thick twat?

Did I abuse you ?
I'm surprised you used the word thick but because I am with the 90% of ccfc fans that can see what Sisu are doing to our club!!
If you think its cool to follow the likes of others and don't have an opinion that doesn't involve calling people names, that is very sad.

 

[Spionkop]

They aren't 'turning on city supporters.'
They are calling for 'a complete boycott of City matches at Sixfields.'

Stop twisting things.

 

[torchomatic]

They aren't 'turning on city supporters.'
They are calling for 'a complete boycott of City matches at Sixfields.'

Stop twisting things.

So says Chubby Checker.

 

[Moff]

Did I abuse you ?
I'm surprised you used the word thick but because I am with the 90% of ccfc fans that can see what Sisu are doing to our club!!
If you think its cool to follow the likes of others and don't have an opinion that doesn't involve calling people names, that is very sad.

John, I also abused you. I said your post was 'Grade A Bellend'. It was.
I only call people names when it is needed.

Lets get one thing straight, 99.9% of fans see what SISU have done to the club, and despise them. The 90% is a figure in your head.

Some disagree in an all out boycott of Sixfields, and others dont. There are many disagreements like this, but like i Said 99.9% of fans want SISU out.

I called you a name as you often post the most divisive stuff that I see on the site, and yet act all innocent when someone rightly calls you an idiot or so forth.

Get over yourself and grow up, as its people like you that have to put people in brackets that cause many of the arguments on the site, so if you act like a twat dont be surprised to be called one.

 

[hill83]

Lol !!
Now its the trusts turn to take a battering from the misguided small minded few on here...

You really are an absolute tart

 

[sky blue john]

Is it only me that can see the same people turning on Micheal and the trust rather than confront the real culprits of this mess ??

 

[Grendel]

Is it only me that can see the same people turning on Micheal and the trust rather than confront the real culprits of this mess ??

Yes it's just you. Stop making a fool of yourself.

 

[hill83]

Is it only me that can see the same people turning on Micheal and the trust rather than confront the real culprits of this mess ??

How can I turn on someone I'm already against? (Sisu, if that was too cryptic for you)

Oh, and !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Edit: Just noticed you said confront. They have been many many times by pretty much everyone.

 

[LB87ccfc]

I believe the trust should not be calling for a boycott as it only raises tensions between fan vs fan which we saw aplenty last season, as no matter what, people are individuals and some will go to watch the team play no matter where we are, whether this is right or wrong, everyone is entitled to a different opinion, but remembering everyone supports Coventry City and alot of people who went to Sixfields did not go for the love of SISU but the love of the shirt and watching the lads on a Saturday, its a drug to some.

What the trust should do is stop being aload of soft tarts organising marches and trying to get places on the board, but rather stand up and be counted, and call for peaceful demonstrations in a more action like way, I am still a strong believer if a coach company put on discounted travel to Northampton now and again and we turned up in our droves to stretch resources ( peaceful demonstrations outside) and make both parties think about what they have agreed here, it would cause bigger problems than a march through the town centre which was directed at no one at all ( wow 5 mins coverage on the day = by sunday all forgotten by the outside football world).

Put it this way, if we was at HR and been moved and back in the day of the WT faithful and some the lads who followed the City far and wide.. I highly doubt we would of been so naive and soft with our approach to this whole scenario.

 

[Buster]

Do any of you lot think that if sisu where getting 7000 gates at sixfields ,they would even think about coming back to the Ricoh ? No, of course not . Therefore the boycott of sixfields is working . If it was an almost total boycott Sisu would be under more pressure to return . Its not rocket science. But no, you carry on watching home games While my son and i continue to travel away .

 

[LB87ccfc]

Do any of you lot think that if sisu where getting 7000 gates at sixfields ,they would even think about coming back to the Ricoh ? No, of course not . Therefore the boycott of sixfields is working . If it was an almost total boycott Sisu would be under more pressure to return . Its not rocket science. But no, you carry on watching home games While my son and i continue to travel away .

The boycott is working yes, but as a fanbase we could of done alot more to drive this home to the FL than just a march through coventry once a year infront of no one... plenty of clubs around the UK would of done alot more thats for sure.

 

[Spionkop]

I believe the trust should not be calling for a boycott as it only raises tensions between fan vs fan which we saw aplenty last season, as no matter what, people are individuals and some will go to watch the team play no matter where we are, whether this is right or wrong, everyone is entitled to a different opinion, but remembering everyone supports Coventry City and alot of people who went to Sixfields did not go for the love of SISU but the love of the shirt and watching the lads on a Saturday, its a drug to some.

What the trust should do is stop being aload of soft tarts organising marches and trying to get places on the board, but rather stand up and be counted, and call for peaceful demonstrations in a more action like way, I am still a strong believer if a coach company put on discounted travel to Northampton now and again and we turned up in our droves to stretch resources ( peaceful demonstrations outside) and make both parties think about what they have agreed here, it would cause bigger problems than a march through the town centre which was directed at no one at all ( wow 5 mins coverage on the day = by sunday all forgotten by the outside football world).

Put it this way, if we was at HR and been moved and back in the day of the WT faithful and some the lads who followed the City far and wide.. I highly doubt we would of been so naive and soft with our approach to this whole scenario.

The bit about mass protest outside Sixfields makes sense. Outside Sixfields. Something really organised.

 

[Grendel]

The bit about mass protest outside Sixfields makes sense. Outside Sixfields. Something really organised.

As long there are no protests against the people going in.

 

[Spionkop]

Buster, you'll get opposition to your idea because the Sixfield few don't want their game of football spoiled.
The boycott is definitely working. Pathetic crowds. Why else would Sisu be desperately sending out low budget deals every few days to the people on their database? It's hurting them. Sure, they've got deep pockets, but money is everything to them, they want to make it, not lose it.
And a ground empty of City fans will send a massive message to the football world. Media, FL, FA, fans around the country.
Look at Coventry, they got a crowd of just 297 Stevenage fans for their game. They'd wonder what was going on. They'd say - Coventry fans really don't want their team playing in Northampton. As it is, we've got some holding that up. It's their selfish choice of course. But in mine, and many other City supporter views, it is deeply wrong.
But no, let's not spoil the afternoon for the Sixfielders. Why should they worry about their club.
Nobody is 'turning on the Sixfielders' but we are expressing our view that we think they are wrong.