2,500 tickets sold for Saturday (24 Viewers)

[davebow87]

Should go back to how it was in the good old 70s. Pay on the turnstile. Worked fine then. Gates of 20 000 at least and no need for ticket sales in town or at remote retail parks. Or the bloody internet!

 

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[LJC_CCFC]

Big surprise, there are SO many better things to do in Cov on a Saturday

 

[Bennosdancingfeet]

It's just hard for people to justify paying over 20 pound for a ticket. I'll be there tomorrow but if you have your kids tagging along with you it's a very expensive day.

Some of the premier league clubs charge 50 pound or more. Should we ever reach the promised land I feel myself and many others will become armchair fans.

I don't know what the average wage is but I know blokes at work who take home 250 a week, even if you went on your own I don't think you can justify paying 1/5 of your salary when you take travel, beverages and a pie into the equation.

 

[Grendel]

In that case, why not give an even bigger discount for buying say a month in advance, rather than a week. Puts the ticket office under less stress.

The truth is that it's partly about being able to manage large crowds (hardly an issue at the moment), and partly about making a few quid out of people. Whatever you call it, it's a discouragement to some people to go up on the day - and if you want decent numbers at the Ricoh then I'd suggest we want to remove as many of these kind of barriers as possible. When the demand for the product is higher, and it genuinely becomes an expense to the club managing a large walk up, then maybe it can be reinstated.

On CWR tonight, at the start of the phone in, Pressley was asked about the likely drop in the crowd tomorrow. His reaction basically was that it's expensive watching football, and as a working mans game maybe something needs to done about that. It's interesting that some people in the game seem to acknowledge that fact, and that some fans seem almost to argue against it.

I must admit I am not sure why this increase is done. You do it in businesses where their is capacity issues and need to gauge numbers accurately.

Lots of clubs do it and I suspect their is some shared research that it makes no difference to walk ups so is extra revenue.

Given the customer alienation experienced last season and the negativity around it they should ditch it for this season.

 

[Rusty Trombone]

Should go back to how it was in the good old 70s. Pay on the turnstile. Worked fine then. Gates of 20 000 at least and no need for ticket sales in town or at remote retail parks. Or the bloody internet!

And turnstile operators who rather strangely had more cash in their pockets on their way home than they did on their way to work the turnstile.

 

[davebow87]

Yeah. Rather give it to the turnstile man than ticketmaster!

 

[Bennosdancingfeet]

And turnstile operators who rather strangely had more cash in their pockets on their way home than they did on their way to work the turnstile.

Wouldn't happen, if your cash don't tally up to tickets scanned, you pay the difference.

I sold programmes up there for 2 seasons and you paid the offset should you go back without the correct wonga

 

[Rusty Trombone]

Wouldn't happen, if your cash don't tally up to tickets scanned, you pay the difference.

I sold programmes up there for 2 seasons and you paid the offset should you go back without the correct wonga

In any cash business someone is taking a slice.

 

[letsallsingtogether]

Then he must be wrong because it was written on here.

In that case, why not give an even bigger discount for buying say a month in advance, rather than a week. Puts the ticket office under less stress.

The truth is that it's partly about being able to manage large crowds (hardly an issue at the moment), and partly about making a few quid out of people. Whatever you call it, it's a discouragement to some people to go up on the day - and if you want decent numbers at the Ricoh then I'd suggest we want to remove as many of these kind of barriers as possible. When the demand for the product is higher, and it genuinely becomes an expense to the club managing a large walk up, then maybe it can be reinstated.

On CWR tonight, at the start of the phone in, Pressley was asked about the likely drop in the crowd tomorrow. His reaction basically was that it's expensive watching football, and as a working mans game maybe something needs to done about that. It's interesting that some people in the game seem to acknowledge that fact, and that some fans seem almost to argue against it.

 

[duffer]

In any cash business someone is taking a slice.

Back in the old days, I'm sure I remember a quiz in one of the fanzines.

Q: The capacity of HR is 22,000. Last week, for the visit of Aston Villa, there were only a handful of seats seemingly available around the ground. What was the published attendance?

(a) 21,500
(b) 20,660
(c) 18,000

The correct answer is, of course, (c).

I'm making the numbers up, but you get the gist of it. I'm sure I've been at HR when there's been audible snorting when the crowd was announced.

 

[letsallsingtogether]

Sense for once.

I must admit I am not sure why this increase is done. You do it in businesses where their is capacity issues and need to gauge numbers accurately.

Lots of clubs do it and I suspect their is some shared research that it makes no difference to walk ups so is extra revenue.

Given the customer alienation experienced last season and the negativity around it they should ditch it for this season.

 

[theferret]

Back in the old days, I'm sure I remember a quiz in one of the fanzines.

Q: The capacity of HR is 22,000. Last week, for the visit of Aston Villa, there were only a handful of seats seemingly available around the ground. What was the published attendance?

(a) 21,500
(b) 20,660
(c) 18,000

The correct answer is, of course, (c).

I'm making the numbers up, but you get the gist of it. I'm sure I've been at HR when there's been audible snorting when the crowd was announced.

That sort of thing was rife back in the 80s. The history books say we only averaged 17,000 the year after we won the cup, but it is a nonsense really. I remember one game - think it might have been Everton - when half the ground starting laughing when they announced the attendance.

All very different now. Go back a couple of years and people would often accuse the club of inflating gates.

 

[TheParsonsHose]

Not sure what our fans want anymore. People moan when we move to Northampton yet tomorrows crowd will show our hardcore and be tiny in comparison to the first game back. I know lots of people who said they would go week in week out on our return yet excuses are now kicking in.

Maybe we deserve a stadium in size to match our desire as a fan base of circa 12000 afterall.

on a positive note I will have no problem taking a piss, getting a beer and going in the casino.

PUSB

 

[theferret]

Not sure what our fans want anymore. People moan when we move to Northampton yet tomorrows crowd will show our hardcore and be tiny in comparison to the first game back. I know lots of people who said they would go week in week out on our return yet excuses are now kicking in.

Maybe we deserve a stadium in size to match our desire as a fan base of circa 12000 afterall.

on a positive note I will have no problem taking a piss, getting a beer and going in the casino.

PUSB

Our current gates (basesd on 2 seasons ago anyway) are our lowest for the best part of 50 years. Why would you build a stadium only able to cater for crowds at the very lowest end of the range of gates we are capable of as a club? That's SISU logic.

Our attendances will recover in time, let's just hope its sooner rather than later.

 

[ccfc1234]

I spoke to the ticket office in person today, we have sold far more than the 2.5k quoted on here. She said they were selling very well and they are expecting the biggest walk up we have had at the Ricoh. Hope she is right.......

 

[Rusty Trombone]

I spoke to the ticket office in person today, we have sold far more than the 2.5k quoted on here. She said they were selling very well and they are expecting the biggest walk up we have had at the Ricoh. Hope she is right.......

The figure of 2,500 came from the ticket office manager. Expected sales are not actual sales.

 

[ccfc1234]

The figure of 2,500 came from the ticket office manager. Expected sales are not actual sales.

I am sure it did but this thread is a working day old now, I suspect we have sold at least another 500 online and in store today. But hey enjoy your half empty drink.

 

[theferret]

The figure of 2,500 came from the ticket office manager. Expected sales are not actual sales.

It really isn't that difficult to work out roughly how many tickets are sold. You can log on to the website and simply look at the number of available seats for the Yeovil game and deduct it from the number of available seats for the Preston game. Add on the 4000 ST holders, away fans, a few corporates and the walk-up, and everything points to a gate of around 11,000. The biggest walk-up in Ricoh history? Hope so, and I hope they can cope. I remember we had a walk-up of around 3000 for the JPT games against Preston and Sheff Utd, and people missed kick-off, that was despite every turnstile accepting cash. I bet there are only 2 or 3 cash turnstiles tomorrow!

 

[lordsummerisle]

It really isn't that difficult to work out roughly how many tickets are sold. You can log on to the website and simply look at the number of available seats for the Yeovil game and deduct it from the number of available seats for the Preston game. Add on the 4000 ST holders, away fans, a few corporates and the walk-up, and everything points to a gate of around 11,000. The biggest walk-up in Ricoh history? Hope so, and I hope they can cope. I remember we had a walk-up of around 3000 for the JPT games against Preston and Sheff Utd, and people missed kick-off, that was despite every turnstile accepting cash. I bet there are only 2 or 3 cash turnstiles tomorrow!

Sure the biggest walk up must have been the Middlesborough cup tie at £15 a ticket, think about 28,000 crowd and an awful lot seemed to be buying on the day.

Lovely goal by Stern John too, best striker we've had since we got relegated from the top league.

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

You're absolutely right - the quiz was in one of the more upmarket fanzine, not the Westender I don't think, but I remember one question was about CCFC's guess at the first FA Cup final crowd made me fall about laughing. Fantastic fanzine , and never bettered but I've forgotten the name of it. Yes, some of the "official" gates at Highfield Road were laughable.

 

[theferret]

Sure the biggest walk up must have been the Middlesborough cup tie at £15 a ticket, think about 28,000 crowd and an awful lot seemed to be buying on the day.

Lovely goal by Stern John too, best striker we've had since we got relegated from the top league.

Don't mention big attendances and reduced ticket prices, people will assume you are trying to suggest there is some sort of link, and that'll only make them furious.

I made that mistake the other day. I only happened to mention the 23,000+ gate against Colchester when tickets were reduced to £10 and the guy looked like he was going to explode.

Missed that Boro game though, overseas at the time, so defer to you on that.

 

[theferret]

You're absolutely right - the quiz was in one of the more upmarket fanzine, not the Westender I don't think, but I remember one question was about CCFC's guess at the first FA Cup final crowd made me fall about laughing. Fantastic fanzine , and never bettered but I've forgotten the name of it. Yes, some of the "official" gates at Highfield Road were laughable.

Miss the fanzine culture. I take it you're not talking about SBA, so perhaps In Dublin's Fair City or Sent To Coventry/Lady Godiva Rides Again?

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

How do they predict the walk up? Is there any logic behind it or do they just pull a figure out of the air and say yep we're predicting the biggest walk up ever.

 

[lordsummerisle]

Don't mention big attendances and reduced ticket prices, people will assume you are trying to suggest there is some sort of link, and that'll only make them furious.

I made that mistake the other day. I only happened to mention the 23,000+ gate against Colchester when tickets were reduced to £10 and the guy looked like he was going to explode.

Missed that Boro game though, overseas at the time, so defer to you on that.

Do think though that the club reduce tickets when not needing to and needlessly reduce revenue, would have expected a reasonable crowd for that game anyway.

The 5 pound ticket for the JPT semi final was ridiculous,would have still sold out at 10-15 pounds.

 

[Rusty Trombone]

I am sure it did but this thread is a working day old now, I suspect we have sold at least another 500 online and in store today. But hey enjoy your half empty drink.

I suppose 500 is far more when working from a start of 2500, but really, no really, it's not many is it?

 

[Grendel]

Do think though that the club reduce tickets when not needing to and needlessly reduce revenue, would have expected a reasonable crowd for that game anyway.

The 5 pound ticket for the JPT semi final was ridiculous,would have still sold out at 10-15 pounds.

They also equalised season ticket prices one year which saved me £130 but as if already accepted that as fair shows the pricing strategy is dumb.

 

[Rusty Trombone]

It really isn't that difficult to work out roughly how many tickets are sold. You can log on to the website and simply look at the number of available seats for the Yeovil game and deduct it from the number of available seats for the Preston game. Add on the 4000 ST holders, away fans, a few corporates and the walk-up, and everything points to a gate of around 11,000. The biggest walk-up in Ricoh history? Hope so, and I hope they can cope. I remember we had a walk-up of around 3000 for the JPT games against Preston and Sheff Utd, and people missed kick-off, that was despite every turnstile accepting cash. I bet there are only 2 or 3 cash turnstiles tomorrow!

You make the calculation sound very difficult, but I'll take your word that it's easy.

 

[lordsummerisle]

I made that mistake the other day. I only happened to mention the 23,000+ gate against Colchester when tickets were reduced to £10 and the guy looked like he was going to explode.

Just remembered that that game was on my 40th Birthday! Think it was "League of Nations" or something being celebrated throughout the Football League so everybody had reduced tickets.

Some may say that I should have been doing something a bit more exciting for my 40th, but what could beat a win against Colchester at home on a lovely, bright, October day?

Rhetorical question by the way, sure there's a huge list!

 

[Astute]

Just remembered that that game was on my 40th Birthday! Think it was "League of Nations" or something being celebrated throughout the Football League so everybody had reduced tickets.

Some may say that I should have been doing something a bit more exciting for my 40th, but what could beat a win against Colchester at home on a lovely, bright, October day?

Rhetorical question by the way, sure there's a huge list!

My wife arranged, booked and paid for me to go to Amsterdam with some of my mates for my 40th as a surprise. Had a bloody good time for what I can remember

 

[Astute]

In that case, why not give an even bigger discount for buying say a month in advance, rather than a week. Puts the ticket office under less stress.

The truth is that it's partly about being able to manage large crowds (hardly an issue at the moment), and partly about making a few quid out of people. Whatever you call it, it's a discouragement to some people to go up on the day - and if you want decent numbers at the Ricoh then I'd suggest we want to remove as many of these kind of barriers as possible. When the demand for the product is higher, and it genuinely becomes an expense to the club managing a large walk up, then maybe it can be reinstated.

On CWR tonight, at the start of the phone in, Pressley was asked about the likely drop in the crowd tomorrow. His reaction basically was that it's expensive watching football, and as a working mans game maybe something needs to done about that. It's interesting that some people in the game seem to acknowledge that fact, and that some fans seem almost to argue against it.

If you look at those that are arguing against reduced ticket prices would bring in more supporters you will see most of them have argued against common sense before. For instance not going to Northampton won't bring our club home.

I agree that reduced tickets might not give more income to our club, but you can't say it won't. But it would bring more of us back which would be better for the future.


Have fun today. Going to work soon

 

[Rusty Trombone]

If you look at those that are arguing against reduced ticket prices would bring in more supporters you will see most of them have argued against common sense before. For instance not going to Northampton won't bring our club home.

I agree that reduced tickets might not give more income to our club, but you can't say it won't. But it would bring more of us back which would be better for the future.


Have fun today. Going to work soon

I haven't seen a single post where it is being argued that reducing prices won't bring in any more supporters.

What people have been saying is that income may reduce as the number going won't be sufficient to make up the difference, you agree with this.

 

[skybluelee]

Now the walk-up surcharge has gone along with the myth that buying tickets online is arduous, I look forward to reading some new made up excuses as to why the people of Coventry won't come and support their team after a year away.

Because its absolutely not repeat not because a huge number of them simply can't be arsed..

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I'm surprised no one has said they have rugby season tickets as I know a few who have. I also know good friends who support CCfc who have made different Saturday plans that will take some time to rearrange. I'll bet there are some who have changed working patterns and routinely work on Saturday where they would not have done before.

I have a wedding today so can't make it and as a case in point I haven't yet put the home fixtures in my calendar to see what things I need to get out of.

Sometimes there are reasons not excuses and a number of threads have been talking about many of them. I would lay the majority of any blame at the 'Charlie's' that took our club away from the city for over a year and it will take some time for people to come back regularly unless we get serious success

 

[Rusty Trombone]

Now the walk-up surcharge has gone along with the myth that buying tickets online is arduous, I look forward to reading some new made up excuses as to why the people of Coventry won't come and support their team after a year away.

Because its absolutely not repeat not because a huge number of them simply can't be arsed..

It wasn't a myth, the club have accepted there is/was a problem with the website. In fact it's part of the reason for stopping the £2 charge.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Just checked and am now thoroughly depressed. First game I can definitely make is 15th November. I can probably get out of everything apart from 2 weekends away but that's what I was saying above. I have 4 family season tickets so I have shown my commitment