Sisu book of liars (3 Viewers)

coundonskyblue

New Member
I'm just trying to compile a list of people Sisu have accused or insinuated of telling lies during their time here. Feel free to add anyone I've missed out.

Previous board/owners
Jay Tabb
Ray Ranson
Westwood
Mick McCarthy (When we were trying to get Eastwood on loan)
Sammy Clingan's agent
Marlon King
Gary Hoffman

Have I missed anyone out?
 

@richh87

Member
It'd be good to compile a list of the lies they've told too! "Meeting with the Council on Friday" for example. They make me sick. I was at the fans forum in kenilworth a few weeks back and Paul Clouting flat out refused to answer a couple of questions - and put a sh1t load of spin on the rest.
 

Nick

Administrator
What was the issue with Clingan's agent?

The council one was a biggy!

I think Gunnar too they said something about him.
 

coundonskyblue

New Member
What was the issue with Clingan's agent?

The council one was a biggy!

I think Gunnar too they said something about him.

If you remember there was something with Clingan where we was trying to sign him for ages then the deal was dead. The club claimed something about the agent wanting money?
 

akira1984

New Member
Ur for gettin transfer budget.

And they're going to be open and honest.

And the transfer embargo they let hoofroyd taake blame for

And that doolally didn't know who the investors were yet he admitted a month prior that GH confided the details to him.

Shall we talk about the "Franchaise player" to replace King.
 

brinner

New Member
the sisu parasites have lied to us since day 1!

debt free we are according to the puppets on our board..........................ermmmm yeah right!

Ken Doolally lied to us in his 1st press confrence about meetings with the council re the stadium.

Leonard Brody lied to us when he tweeted saying Ranson and Hoffman were the ppl responsible for selling Thomas to Liverpool when infact they were the 2 ppl that said no to the deal.

Paul Clouting lied to us in may at the fans forum when he said Thorn would have the same transfer budged as Boothroyd had.

They have contstantly lied about players contracts, alienated the players while doing this and no wonder they are all walking away for nothing.

Sisu are the biggest liars of all, funding us til the end of the season they say............erm fuck off sisu, you aint funding fuck all, the money keeping us afloat currently is money they have loaned on future income and they have mortgaged the trasining ground so they infact are not paying a penny at the moment towards running the footbal club.

They will also carry on trying to scupper the takeover aswell, why shud they accept a bid of £1 when they have loaned funds to keep us going til the end of the season and still have the likes of Juke, Turner, Clingan and Cranie to sell this week and in january.

SISU ARE A FUCKING DISGRACE.
 
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Deleted member 2477

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Totally agree its a shame that there are still a few like Pacman and Hibbert who are still wearing the Sisu glasses and falling for the bullshi* of Sisu
They will be giving their bank account numbers to a Nigerian on the phone next promising a share of the 10 mil that he has won :claping hands:

Just remember guys when we get relegated and go into Admin with no assets or players as Sisu have sold them all and jumped ship leaving us with nothing but huge debts and no team don't come running to the rest of us pleading for forgiveness
 

AFCCOVENTRY

Well-Known Member
NICK

Here is a possible peaceful approach to Tango Man and his ass licker Clouting.

Can we compile a list of all the statements sisu and co have made over the years and submit this to them for a reply?

cc Brody and Hoffman
 

georgehudson

Well-Known Member
good post coundonskyblue, there are so many others fans, players, agents, prospective investors etc., that have been given the 'economic truth' routine, own up SISU, & don't offer up a puppet to do the tosh talk, PUSB
 

lordsummerisle

Well-Known Member
the sisu parasites have lied to us since day 1!

debt free we are according to the puppets on our board..........................ermmmm yeah right!



SISU ARE A FUCKING DISGRACE.

Don't disagree, but weren't Hoffman, Elliott and Ranson part of that?
 

georgehudson

Well-Known Member
well said brinner, who had the 80's hit with 'time for action' oh that would be secret affair then, that would fit with KD = tan like hangover piss - quote -sean lock
 

lordsummerisle

Well-Known Member
yep, and they both resigned as they were done with the sisu bullshit.

For three years?

Don't really hold out much hope for getting great investors in then.

Lets face it, Ranson was with SISU a long time before buying us, and Elliott's track record hardly the best with Coventry City owners previously either.
 

TheSnoz

New Member
Something from the COV MAD SITE, a bit of a read, but it throws more light on the background of the people now running our club. The article obviously relates to Southampton and dates from October 2009. The expensive flights from Portugal continue.

More DYOR on my part required, but anybody else looked at this one? Or have any thoughts?

I'll warn you upfront that I know nothing about their finances, but I do know a bit about some of their current and former Directors as they were heavily involved in the takeover shenanigans at Southampton FC back in 2006. That is enough to make me shudder on your behalf!

In a nutshell, a local businessman called Michael Wilde bought a large shareholding in Southampton FC's parent company, primarily to oust the then chairman. At the time, Southampton had just been relegated from the Premier League and were facing financial issues as a result - spending needed to be severely reigned in to account for the drop in revenues... basically a 50% drop in turnover (with 1 year parachute payment of 15% remaining). For those who don't follow football, Southampton went into administration last season and these Vantis people played a large part in screwing the club financially:


Wilde brought in a chap called Ken Anderson as his financial advisor. This is Vantis connection number 1:

http://www.vantisplc.com/Vantis/About/People/KenAnderson.htm...

He formulated Wilde's plan and solicited the sale of shares to Wilde. When Wilde could not afford a controlling stake, they negotiated options and vote proxies over other Directors' holdings instead. His Vantis business card during these negotiations referred to him as "Group Director" which was strange as only a few months earlier he was banned from holding directorship of a company until 2013:

http://www.companieshouse.gov.uk/ddir/dqdet.cgi?P=0784186401...

Indeed Anderson has been involved in several liquidations and his record at the Insolvency Service reveals that he has been found guilty of diverting funds receivable by a company into personal accounts, VAT discrepancies, and failure to cooperate with Receivers. Sounds like a great bloke to have on board.

Vantis billed £90,000 for 4 weeks work for Wilde. This was retrospectively billed back to the club after Wilde took control.


Having sorted out the controlling stake for Wilde, Anderson helped Wilde assemble a boardroom team for the takeover. Here comes Vantis connection #2, Ken Dulieu:

http://www.vantisplc.com/Vantis/InvestorRelations/Directors....

You'll notice he doesn't have a personal page like Anderson, and that his details incorrectly state he is a non-executive chairman of Southampton Leisure Holdings (the parent company of Southampton FC). The club went into administration at the beginning of the year and is now under new ownership so this is completely incorrect. More important is the claim of being "non-exec". In fact, despite this claim and Wilde claiming that all non-execs would be unpaid, Dulieu in fact was paid as an exec and got paid an incredible £100,000 pa for a maximum 8 days per month with first class flights to and from his home in Portugal. He even got to have his own secretary out there. Remember, this was a club in financial trouble for whom the full-time CEO they'd just ousted was only being paid £120k pa.

Dulieu, like other Vantis Directors was also on the board at AIM listed CapCon - at this time CapCon had declined from a £6m company to having a market cap of just £300k. It had just lost £2.3m and warned the next year would be even worse. Dulieu and the board tried to issue themselves convertible notes at a 50-65% discount which would have passed control to a concert party including their own board Directors. Their peers, Christie Group, held 15% of CapCon and resorted to publicly shaming them with a statement to the stockmarket which included:

"Christie Group has made repeated requests to Capcon's Board for up-to-date financial information... No such information has been provided and no reason for this has been given."

Dulieu then changed tack and changed from suggesting these massively discounted convertible loan notes to a straight 2-year guaranteed secured loan to the company with interest at 10% pa payable daily. The alternative board proposal in the EGM of a management buyout of part of the business for £700k was then dismissed as being "only ever meant as a fallback" when Christies countered with a 43% higher offer! No wonder the CapCon shareprice performed 50 times worse than Christies that year.

In his own words, Dulieu "had been brought in to look after the plc part of the Club" when he arrived at Southampton - at a time when spending needed to be cut, in less than 2 years he helped take the club from 2 execs to 5 execs on higher salaries, with turnover halved the wage bill was increased, and with parachute payments ending a £5m overdraft was taken out... all of which led to administration.


I suppose you could look at this in one of two ways. On the one hand these people have shown themselves to be unscrupulous, untrustworthy money-grabbers you'd not want within 100 miles of your company. Then again, they are no doubt very adept at charging and billing. But overall, if these people are supposed to be business recovery specialists, I think they have a rather poor track record. FWIW, I wouldn't touch them with someone else's bargepole.

Cheers


-luckyjonah.
 

cloughie

Well-Known Member
Something from the COV MAD SITE, a bit of a read, but it throws more light on the background of the people now running our club. The article obviously relates to Southampton and dates from October 2009. The expensive flights from Portugal continue.

More DYOR on my part required, but anybody else looked at this one? Or have any thoughts?

I'll warn you upfront that I know nothing about their finances, but I do know a bit about some of their current and former Directors as they were heavily involved in the takeover shenanigans at Southampton FC back in 2006. That is enough to make me shudder on your behalf!

In a nutshell, a local businessman called Michael Wilde bought a large shareholding in Southampton FC's parent company, primarily to oust the then chairman. At the time, Southampton had just been relegated from the Premier League and were facing financial issues as a result - spending needed to be severely reigned in to account for the drop in revenues... basically a 50% drop in turnover (with 1 year parachute payment of 15% remaining). For those who don't follow football, Southampton went into administration last season and these Vantis people played a large part in screwing the club financially:


Wilde brought in a chap called Ken Anderson as his financial advisor. This is Vantis connection number 1:

http://www.vantisplc.com/Vantis/About/People/KenAnderson.htm...

He formulated Wilde's plan and solicited the sale of shares to Wilde. When Wilde could not afford a controlling stake, they negotiated options and vote proxies over other Directors' holdings instead. His Vantis business card during these negotiations referred to him as "Group Director" which was strange as only a few months earlier he was banned from holding directorship of a company until 2013:

http://www.companieshouse.gov.uk/ddir/dqdet.cgi?P=0784186401...

Indeed Anderson has been involved in several liquidations and his record at the Insolvency Service reveals that he has been found guilty of diverting funds receivable by a company into personal accounts, VAT discrepancies, and failure to cooperate with Receivers. Sounds like a great bloke to have on board.

Vantis billed £90,000 for 4 weeks work for Wilde. This was retrospectively billed back to the club after Wilde took control.


Having sorted out the controlling stake for Wilde, Anderson helped Wilde assemble a boardroom team for the takeover. Here comes Vantis connection #2, Ken Dulieu:

http://www.vantisplc.com/Vantis/InvestorRelations/Directors....

You'll notice he doesn't have a personal page like Anderson, and that his details incorrectly state he is a non-executive chairman of Southampton Leisure Holdings (the parent company of Southampton FC). The club went into administration at the beginning of the year and is now under new ownership so this is completely incorrect. More important is the claim of being "non-exec". In fact, despite this claim and Wilde claiming that all non-execs would be unpaid, Dulieu in fact was paid as an exec and got paid an incredible £100,000 pa for a maximum 8 days per month with first class flights to and from his home in Portugal. He even got to have his own secretary out there. Remember, this was a club in financial trouble for whom the full-time CEO they'd just ousted was only being paid £120k pa.

Dulieu, like other Vantis Directors was also on the board at AIM listed CapCon - at this time CapCon had declined from a £6m company to having a market cap of just £300k. It had just lost £2.3m and warned the next year would be even worse. Dulieu and the board tried to issue themselves convertible notes at a 50-65% discount which would have passed control to a concert party including their own board Directors. Their peers, Christie Group, held 15% of CapCon and resorted to publicly shaming them with a statement to the stockmarket which included:

"Christie Group has made repeated requests to Capcon's Board for up-to-date financial information... No such information has been provided and no reason for this has been given."

Dulieu then changed tack and changed from suggesting these massively discounted convertible loan notes to a straight 2-year guaranteed secured loan to the company with interest at 10% pa payable daily. The alternative board proposal in the EGM of a management buyout of part of the business for £700k was then dismissed as being "only ever meant as a fallback" when Christies countered with a 43% higher offer! No wonder the CapCon shareprice performed 50 times worse than Christies that year.

In his own words, Dulieu "had been brought in to look after the plc part of the Club" when he arrived at Southampton - at a time when spending needed to be cut, in less than 2 years he helped take the club from 2 execs to 5 execs on higher salaries, with turnover halved the wage bill was increased, and with parachute payments ending a £5m overdraft was taken out... all of which led to administration.


I suppose you could look at this in one of two ways. On the one hand these people have shown themselves to be unscrupulous, untrustworthy money-grabbers you'd not want within 100 miles of your company. Then again, they are no doubt very adept at charging and billing. But overall, if these people are supposed to be business recovery specialists, I think they have a rather poor track record. FWIW, I wouldn't touch them with someone else's bargepole.

Cheers


-luckyjonah.

And as usual some of the sisu and orange ken dildo defenders will ignore these facts.
 

cloughie

Well-Known Member
Ur for gettin transfer budget.

And they're going to be open and honest.

And the transfer embargo they let hoofroyd taake blame for

And that doolally didn't know who the investors were yet he admitted a month prior that GH confided the details to him.

Shall we talk about the "Franchaise player" to replace King.

Add this to the list
K.D quote
"After five months of dealing with a much hyped takeover bid fronted by Mr Hoffman, which suggested significant investment would be made into the club, at no point was proof of funding in evidence, nor was the identity of any substantial investors, if any, revealed to the board.

Who dropped out the Ken Bruce name on the radio who admitted that GH had revealed the names of the investors to him personally and he was aware of who they were ?

The LIAR known as Ken Dildo
 

ajsccfc

Well-Known Member
That Vantis stuff is terrifying, yet not surprising. Ken needs money for the creosote he cakes his face in.
 

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