Astute
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So we are losing these games because they all have Wilson, Christie etc?
The fans are an embarrassment (2 Viewers)
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So we are losing these games because they all have Wilson, Christie etc?
Nick
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Your lad is up late tonight!
Astute
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1 point out of the last 21. If we only get 1 point out of the next 21 we will be cut adrift. And then maybe even you will wake up and see what is happening.
Astute
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Agree. There wasn't a Thorn Out campaign right up until the last minute. We didn't want Robins to go. We weren't screaming for the depatures of Dowie, Coleman, Adams, Black or McAllister. It was only really Reid where we kicked up a fuss post relegation from PL. Totally wrong to say we're trigger happy supporters as far as managers go.
TheUKGryphon
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Unless things change then YES. Are you really expecting the fans to be happy and say nothing about what's happening at our club?
Forgive us for airing our views to try and halt this terminal tail spin we're in.
Doushbag!
Forgive us for airing our views to try and halt this terminal tail spin we're in.
Doushbag!
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I fully support the club. Where do I get my CCFC on L2 tour t-shirt from?
covmark
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hutch1972
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Unlike you, it seems that our supporters refuse to be lemmings anymore .
letsallsingtogether
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Too be fair to the OP there are a few on here that keep saying we have the worst fans in the country.
If that is true it is all down to our owners they have caused this situation 100%.
If that is true it is all down to our owners they have caused this situation 100%.
Kingokings204
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True, we all want SP to go in the main not because any of us dislike him I actually really rate the guy as a professional but he is poor and when you look at sisu and the team you have to put blame his way as that's the done thing as although this holds water the problems lie deeper down in the owners.
What I am trying to say is why is SP so crap? Why are the players so crap and not trying? The answers lie within the club and this Is the owners. They employed SP and we all know SW signs most players with players we can afford. The problem is SISU not SP. The reason SP is crap is because sisu hired him thinking he was good enough but in reality he was a cheap option from a crap league where he done nothing with crap players. He is doing the exact same to us.
Execpt for 1 half of 1 season he has been awful, tactically inept and his substitutions always frustrate the fuck out of me especially last year. Always changed it when it was too late. I think back to port vale last year this was the prime example, we took the lead twice and lost 3-2 imo because he didn't change it sooner and brought on Manset when we went 3-2 down. I'm still fuming about this as you can see as its things like that, that stop you getting a point or the win and instead we are losers again. Done it time and again last year and has he ever proved he can defend even when we were winning it was always conceding matter of time before that turns.
Overall I don't blame SP but sisu for hiring the cheap option. The problem is get rid of SP and who comes in? Massive issue as there are better managers out there but we wont go for them as they will be that too much for us. League 2 beckons.
Leamington Pete
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Given a bit of quality to build the team around Pressley might have half a chance of improving things. Problem is we've got rid of any quality we had and our team is average at best, full of players who were available for a very good reason.
So the consensus appears to be;
1. get rid of SISU - is that going to happen short term? NO
2. Sack Pressley - and replace with WHO exactly?
The original poster is getting pelters for suggesting the fans have a part to play. Imagine the difference if we had 18000 at the Ricoh this weekend vocally supporting the team. But we wont.
The one thing in our gift to deliver is the least likely thing to happen.
1. get rid of SISU - is that going to happen short term? NO
2. Sack Pressley - and replace with WHO exactly?
The original poster is getting pelters for suggesting the fans have a part to play. Imagine the difference if we had 18000 at the Ricoh this weekend vocally supporting the team. But we wont.
The one thing in our gift to deliver is the least likely thing to happen.
M&B Stand
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Yeah, he's doing a cracking job.
oscillatewildly
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Surely, the title of this thread should have been: The fans are embarrassed. ?
oldskyblue58
CCFC Finance Director
Other day I had a conversation with a mate of mine who said ........ "there's always an excuse for our owners what will be next will be that they cant afford investment in players because the crowds are not big enough, it will be the fans fault"
Now there is an inescapable truth in that the main CCFC income is match day tickets so low attendance does impact on affordability of the squad makeup. But the fans are the customers, they are not a guaranteed income at any club, they have already proven that the majority will not be pushed around when they refused to go in the main to Sixfields. There have been plenty of words and platitudes towards the fans but bottom line is they want to see a team on the pitch that is at least competing at L1 level, that gives them hope, that for a few hours lets them forget, that puts a smile on their faces more often than not. Yes to a degree that is about money, but it is not that simple is it, there is far more to it than that otherwise teams like Yeovil would never be successful.............. despite all the money we have apparently spent over the last 10 years our last success was what exactly?
CCFC fans have for years been treated as an cash paying inconvenience by the club. Various managers, directors, owners have repeatedly paid lip service to fan involvement (and I am not talking about a seat on the Board or shares) only to not follow through with it. Just how many times in recent years have the club got things wrong, it isn't just the move to Sixfields, its ticket sales, shop sales, marketing, information, transport etc .............. the list goes on. It all adds up to fans saying sod this why should I bother. Yes there are those "sky blue loyal" fans that will always go even some who wear the title as a badge of superiority...... but in the end it isn't their money that really makes the difference in making the step up is it ...... yes their money is important as is their loyalty...... but to make the step up you need the fans that are less certain, the ones that question whether to spend the money or to do something else. Take a cold hard look at CCFC and what exactly makes those less certain fans keen to spend their money at CCFC?
The club is a mess off the pitch and it seems just now pretty much a mess on it. There is a lack of plan and leadership. The club alienated many of its fans and frankly has done little to get them back. There should have been huge efforts made to relink the fans to the team and it just has not happened...... things like the SCG or stadium forum wont do it, that's just tinkering, more lip service. The Gillingham game was a great opportunity to kick start it all and we all know what happened there, the shambles it became and that set the tone
As for SP well praise and criticism are two sides of the same coin and we should acknowledge that not accept he can do what he likes even when it is clearly not working. No I don't think we should sack him yet but he does need to look at his performance and decision making because so far it has been more bad than good
Always someone else's fault though isn't it ................
Now there is an inescapable truth in that the main CCFC income is match day tickets so low attendance does impact on affordability of the squad makeup. But the fans are the customers, they are not a guaranteed income at any club, they have already proven that the majority will not be pushed around when they refused to go in the main to Sixfields. There have been plenty of words and platitudes towards the fans but bottom line is they want to see a team on the pitch that is at least competing at L1 level, that gives them hope, that for a few hours lets them forget, that puts a smile on their faces more often than not. Yes to a degree that is about money, but it is not that simple is it, there is far more to it than that otherwise teams like Yeovil would never be successful.............. despite all the money we have apparently spent over the last 10 years our last success was what exactly?
CCFC fans have for years been treated as an cash paying inconvenience by the club. Various managers, directors, owners have repeatedly paid lip service to fan involvement (and I am not talking about a seat on the Board or shares) only to not follow through with it. Just how many times in recent years have the club got things wrong, it isn't just the move to Sixfields, its ticket sales, shop sales, marketing, information, transport etc .............. the list goes on. It all adds up to fans saying sod this why should I bother. Yes there are those "sky blue loyal" fans that will always go even some who wear the title as a badge of superiority...... but in the end it isn't their money that really makes the difference in making the step up is it ...... yes their money is important as is their loyalty...... but to make the step up you need the fans that are less certain, the ones that question whether to spend the money or to do something else. Take a cold hard look at CCFC and what exactly makes those less certain fans keen to spend their money at CCFC?
The club is a mess off the pitch and it seems just now pretty much a mess on it. There is a lack of plan and leadership. The club alienated many of its fans and frankly has done little to get them back. There should have been huge efforts made to relink the fans to the team and it just has not happened...... things like the SCG or stadium forum wont do it, that's just tinkering, more lip service. The Gillingham game was a great opportunity to kick start it all and we all know what happened there, the shambles it became and that set the tone
As for SP well praise and criticism are two sides of the same coin and we should acknowledge that not accept he can do what he likes even when it is clearly not working. No I don't think we should sack him yet but he does need to look at his performance and decision making because so far it has been more bad than good
Always someone else's fault though isn't it ................
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zigojacko
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The players simply aren't good enough. How much of that is SP's fault, I don't know.
I've been more impressed with the performance of some of our youth players this season than much of the seniors.
It's down to SP and the coaching staff to get the best out of the players sure, but I'm not convinced there is a great deal more they can possibly give.
More than ever now are we feeling the loss of Moussa, Baker, (probably) Marshall, Christie, Adams, Murphy, (definitely) Wilson. We haven't got anywhere close to replacing these players with who we've brought in based on what we've seen so far this season.
I've been more impressed with the performance of some of our youth players this season than much of the seniors.
It's down to SP and the coaching staff to get the best out of the players sure, but I'm not convinced there is a great deal more they can possibly give.
More than ever now are we feeling the loss of Moussa, Baker, (probably) Marshall, Christie, Adams, Murphy, (definitely) Wilson. We haven't got anywhere close to replacing these players with who we've brought in based on what we've seen so far this season.
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RoboCCFC90
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STT - I know what your trying to say, but the way it has come across is wrong, of course we shouldn't forget what SP had done for us last season in the essence that SP kept us and has us a shining light when we were surrounded in dark, that said last night for me personally was a total embarrassment, something needs to change, now I am not saying that needs to be Pressley - I personally don't want it to be the Manager who gets the boot - but something needs to change, I think personally we have brought in decent players over the summer, but the formation isn't working and for the last few games we have not looked as if we can dig ourselves from a hole in games.
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covcity4life
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pressleys team talk for saturday?
I tend to agree in principle with the original post....
I don't think it's a blast at people on here personally.
But look at the public 'face' of our fans.... our facebook page, the idiots who ring and text in to CWR every week, the plain fact that 70% of our fan base disappeared after our heroic return to the Ricoh.... the NOPM (unless we play Arsenal).....
All the above can be argued against, but that is the public face of our fans, displayed to the footballing world and other supporters, it's no wonder we are a laughing stock....
I don't think it's a blast at people on here personally.
But look at the public 'face' of our fans.... our facebook page, the idiots who ring and text in to CWR every week, the plain fact that 70% of our fan base disappeared after our heroic return to the Ricoh.... the NOPM (unless we play Arsenal).....
All the above can be argued against, but that is the public face of our fans, displayed to the footballing world and other supporters, it's no wonder we are a laughing stock....
Gillingham game a shambles? 27000 managed to get tickets but didn't manage to get them the following week. Odd that.
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skybluedan
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I'm not really keen on SP and never have been, he has had a decent run at the post and seems to be failing at the moment,, i would be shocked if the owners got rid anytime soon as it would be another admittance of errors made while in control of the club.. If they do get rid of SP, what player will go to fund the payout and fund the next man up!!! that is really the question..
As for fans not turning up,, the answer is very simple, we are all losing hope that these owners are sincere and trust worthy to have a plan which will help this club move forward... At Gillingham the 27,000 was more of a welcome back to the players and a celebration that the owners can and will not push us around.. If you can't see this then your eyes are truly shut and like SISU you are blind to the fact the mass fan base does not support the owners in what they are and have done. Secondly the team in this slump don't make for good watching at 22 quid,, sad as we are producing some talent,, not all ready yet but some signs of ability...
As for fans not turning up,, the answer is very simple, we are all losing hope that these owners are sincere and trust worthy to have a plan which will help this club move forward... At Gillingham the 27,000 was more of a welcome back to the players and a celebration that the owners can and will not push us around.. If you can't see this then your eyes are truly shut and like SISU you are blind to the fact the mass fan base does not support the owners in what they are and have done. Secondly the team in this slump don't make for good watching at 22 quid,, sad as we are producing some talent,, not all ready yet but some signs of ability...
TheOldFive
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That song: "Your Support is Fucking Shit". That's us that is.
Astute
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I suppose that you will be saying next that our performances deserve gates of 27,000
Sky Blue Harry H
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Not " Your support is f..ing shit", but "our support is f..ing depressed"
I've decided I'm going on Saturday out of sheer bloody mindedness - do I think we will win - No. Will I cheer them on - Yes. I will also try and work out what is working / not working, and try and find my usual crumbs of comfort from the team. They are (as I have said before on here) like a girlfriend who keeps cheating on me - but I can't give up on them. Those who turn on fellow supporters and accuse them of being fickle need to remember the lack of very much to get excited about over a very long period of time. Oldham Athletic - unbeaten in 12 games had 3,000 fans turn out for them against us - what would our home turn out be with an unbeaten 12 game run?
I think we're going to need both Reda and Nouble back before things turn around - hopefully before it's too late!
I've decided I'm going on Saturday out of sheer bloody mindedness - do I think we will win - No. Will I cheer them on - Yes. I will also try and work out what is working / not working, and try and find my usual crumbs of comfort from the team. They are (as I have said before on here) like a girlfriend who keeps cheating on me - but I can't give up on them. Those who turn on fellow supporters and accuse them of being fickle need to remember the lack of very much to get excited about over a very long period of time. Oldham Athletic - unbeaten in 12 games had 3,000 fans turn out for them against us - what would our home turn out be with an unbeaten 12 game run?
I think we're going to need both Reda and Nouble back before things turn around - hopefully before it's too late!
TheOldFive
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Ah the classic "what we deserve" angle. Where do folks get this smug sense of entitlement about deserving better? Support should be there regardless if "Loyalty is Permanent" or are you saying Jimmy Hill was wrong? NOT knocking those for whom the finances are a struggle, fair play to them, but many are just tepid in their support and we should expect little more on the pitch that being the case.
bigfatronssba
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Do you think the club has been loyal to the fans and the city?
After the Northampton debacle I currently have pretty much zero loyal feelings to the club, and that wont even begin to change until sisu piss off.
a good supporter should remain loyal when their team goes on a bad run . A bad run 27 years long is taking the piss!
He had sweet FA to do with the youth development it was all in place before he got here, let's not forget the man who was responsible for developing all those players has left since Pressley arrived. Giving the man credit cause he plays youth players is crazy, we have not fecking choice but to use youth players.
If you were at the Bristol game Saturday you would of see Haynes look dead before he kicked a ball, maybe just maybe the reports coming out of the club are true he's lost the dressing room.
TheOldFive
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Good for you. Come back when they are gone and the good times on the pitch return and if anyone calls you a fairweather joke of a fan or a plastic bastard just ignore them. We've all got to do what we think is right.
Grendel
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Try telling a fan of Rochdale the years 1988 to 2000 were a bad run.
Grendel
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They'll get that in a JPT game if Wembley is promised whatever the performance and whoever is in charge.