Can/should the FL intervene? (4 Viewers)

[labrax]

Yes, the Football League now has every reason to take action following the High Court Judgement and the Judge's observations about SISU'S managent. To continue supporting SISU the Football League will now appear to be condoning SUSU'S miss-management and it's decision to move to Northampton when there was no reason to do so. Evidence now suggests the Football Leage might possibly consider SISU are "unfit persons" to continue managing CCFC. I feel that pressure should now be applied on the Football League to take action, not only by us as individuals, but by groups, the media, MPs's and maybe even the legal profession.

Agree with this but you do have to consider the FL may well come out with something dopey like they ain't read the Judge's summing up because it's none of their business. Hopefully, someone has actually sent them copy and got on record their response to reading it.

 

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[skybluetom]

For once I feel for the Football League, they were put in an impossible position by the club last year. If they didn't rubber stamp the move to Northampton we'd have been unable to furfill our first fixture and have been kicked out the League. They can't now turn around and force the council and Sisu to broker a deal, if they attempt to do that Sisu will probably just pull the plug on anyway so they're inbetween a rock and a hard place.

What needs to change thought is this 'fit and proper persons' test, after the guy that brought Leeds challenged their ruling and had the decision reversed that said he was unfit I wonder has anybody actually failed this test?

 

[dadgad]

It's the way the game is run that has to be defended. If these muppets cannot see that we're losing the whole point behind the game itself, nobody can.
These are men of straw and until they enforce their guidelines for the wider and deepest traditions of the game the sport will continue to deteriorate.

 

[Kingokings204]

For once I feel for the Football League, they were put in an impossible position by the club last year. If they didn't rubber stamp the move to Northampton we'd have been unable to furfill our first fixture and have been kicked out the League. They can't now turn around and force the council and Sisu to broker a deal, if they attempt to do that Sisu will probably just pull the plug on anyway so they're inbetween a rock and a hard place.

What needs to change thought is this 'fit and proper persons' test, after the guy that brought Leeds challenged their ruling and had the decision reversed that said he was unfit I wonder has anybody actually failed this test?

I like this post. A sensible head in tough times. I hate the FL more than anyone and they have been proved to be spineless and gutless but last year it was August 2nd when club was liquated and the first game of the season was crawley away the next day so what could the FL do then? Its tough they has probably 1-2 hours to decide what to do and they chose to keep ccfc in business.

I don't see what else they could of done within such a tight deadline. Since then sure they are gutless but that's life we know they are and we wont get any help from them. They authorised a timeframe of 3-5 years and that's what it shall be.

The only way this can change is talks between acl and sisu and they mutually agree everything to come back. Nothing else will work. Marches, Protests and FL wont help any. It can and will only be good old fashioned talks and negotiation to bring ccfc back home. Nothing else.

 

[wingy]

I was thinking about the outstanding £560k that SISU owe ACL and I was thinking that the FL could use this payment as a make weight in our club returning home?

ACL want the payment and it's pretty clear that SISU are going to do everything in there power to not pay it or pay as little as possible. So what's stopping the FL using this payment to broker a deal to bring our club home? Instead of going directly into the ACL coffers it could go into an escrow as security, ACL make a temporary 3year rental offer with a share of revenue and at the end of the 3years if no permanent solution has been come to it can stay in escrow while another temporary deal is sought. If sisu default on the rent ACL can draw it down to cover it. Most importantly the FL can say if a deal can't be done then the £560k is payable with immediate effect to ACL or they withdrawn the golden share and the club is expelled from the league?

Seems to me that by not paying the £560k sisu have inadvertently given some power to the FL to get this mess sorted. Question is, are the FL smart enough to realise this?

Looking back Tony .....I wonder ??

Where did the CT Impetus suddenly come from?/

A Damning JR verdict swiftly followed by this Decision on that payment .

Damien Collins applying pressure with his Interview .

We'd re-laid the Pitch @ Sixfields ,and Started recruiting what seemed like an average Squad for the coming season to play in a certain way .

Part with certain Players on high Wages ,and then top up the Squad with players that would command similar wages.

Maybe there was something In this .:thinking about:

 

[Skyblueweeman]

Looking back Tony .....I wonder ??

Where did the CT Impetus suddenly come from?/

A Damning JR verdict swiftly followed by this Decision on that payment .

Damien Collins applying pressure with his Interview .

We'd re-laid the Pitch @ Sixfields ,and Started recruiting what seemed like an average Squad for the coming season to play in a certain way .

Part with certain Players on high Wages ,and then top up the Squad with players that would command similar wages.

Maybe there was something In this .:thinking about:

Deep bruv, deep.

 

[skybluetony176]

Yeah. You're paranoid Wingy

It was quite funny to read this thread back and some of the comments. So SISU did come "crawling" back after the JR defeat after all Grendull? Guess I'm not as stupid as you think? I bet they wished that they hadn't thrown it now?

 

[Nick]

Does nobody think they came back when they got wind of the Wasps stuff?

 

[dongonzalos]

Does nobody think they came back when they got wind of the Wasps stuff?

Yes I do which it frustrating as it shows the move away was not necessary and they could have come back anytime
They panicked and needed to be back in place before the wasps deal was concluded.
The FL have been made idiots of.

 

[Godiva]

Yes I do which it frustrating as it shows the move away was not necessary and they could have come back anytime
They panicked and needed to be back in place before the wasps deal was concluded.
The FL have been made idiots of.

Or - the wasps deal was dependent on the club being back paying some rent, attracting some revenue and increase the value of the sponsor deals wasps bring in.
I seem to remember ACL setting ultimate demands for a return - especially dropping the appeal. Yet they backed down on that. Why?

 

[Astute]

In surprised Tony is worried. According to him after the last JR defeat sisu would be broke and come crawling back.

Some more intelligent observers of course thought otherwise....

Just one of Grendel's posts that didn't take long to be shown to be wrong.

Hardly anyone was saying that SISU would be broke. The money they have been wasting isn't even theirs to waste. What was being said was how much longer was their investors be happy to keep putting money in.

I don't see Grendel as intelligent or thick. What I do see him as is argumentative and will twist words to his own means. And when he is shown to be wrong ignore the thread and start on another one. Wanting our club to get things he wants is not a good reason to keep having a go at others that don't agree with what he rambles on about.

I was the same as many and was saying that SISU would keep our club away from the Ricoh until there was no chance of them getting the Ricoh on the cheap. Once Wasps were involved and SISU knew about it they brought our club home. But not until they had wasted and lost many millions in their attempt of getting the Ricoh on the cheap. The money that could have bought the Higgs share before they started playing their silly games.

 

[Sick Boy]

Or - the wasps deal was dependent on the club being back paying some rent, attracting some revenue and increase the value of the sponsor deals wasps bring in.
I seem to remember ACL setting ultimate demands for a return - especially dropping the appeal. Yet they backed down on that. Why?

Because they love the club and only want the best for them etc etc.

 

[shy_tall_knight]

Just one of Grendel's posts that didn't take long to be shown to be wrong.

Hardly anyone was saying that SISU would be broke. The money they have been wasting isn't even theirs to waste. What was being said was how much longer was their investors be happy to keep putting money in.

I don't see Grendel as intelligent or thick. What I do see him as is argumentative and will twist words to his own means. And when he is shown to be wrong ignore the thread and start on another one. Wanting our club to get things he wants is not a good reason to keep having a go at others that don't agree with what he rambles on about.

I was the same as many and was saying that SISU would keep our club away from the Ricoh until there was no chance of them getting the Ricoh on the cheap. Once Wasps were involved and SISU knew about it they brought our club home. But not until they had wasted and lost many millions in their attempt of getting the Ricoh on the cheap. The money that could have bought the Higgs share before they started playing their silly games.

The wasted millions last season rather than negotiating properly has ensured SISU have lost out but worse still means we as a club may never recover. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but if SISU knew 2 years ago what they know today, they would now be the 100% owners of ACL. IMO the reluctance from Higgs / CCC to do a deal were the tactics / attitude of SISU and again IMO the sale to WASPS was partially personal ie to "distress" / embarrass SISU like they tried to do to ACL.

 

[letsallsingtogether]

Isn't that a pre-cursor for posting on here.

Just one of Grendel's posts that didn't take long to be shown to be wrong.

Hardly anyone was saying that SISU would be broke. The money they have been wasting isn't even theirs to waste. What was being said was how much longer was their investors be happy to keep putting money in.

I don't see Grendel as intelligent or thick. What I do see him as is argumentative and will twist words to his own means. And when he is shown to be wrong ignore the thread and start on another one. Wanting our club to get things he wants is not a good reason to keep having a go at others that don't agree with what he rambles on about.

I was the same as many and was saying that SISU would keep our club away from the Ricoh until there was no chance of them getting the Ricoh on the cheap. Once Wasps were involved and SISU knew about it they brought our club home. But not until they had wasted and lost many millions in their attempt of getting the Ricoh on the cheap. The money that could have bought the Higgs share before they started playing their silly games.

 

[skybluefred]

The wasted millions last season rather than negotiating properly has ensured SISU have lost out but worse still means we as a club may never recover. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but if SISU knew 2 years ago what they know today, they would now be the 100% owners of ACL. IMO the reluctance from Higgs / CCC to do a deal were the tactics / attitude of SISU and again IMO the sale to WASPS was partially personal ie to "distress" / embarrass SISU like they tried to do to ACL.

That sounds like revenge to me.

 

[CCFC PimpRail]

The wasted millions last season rather than negotiating properly has ensured SISU have lost out but worse still means we as a club may never recover. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but if SISU knew 2 years ago what they know today, they would now be the 100% owners of ACL. IMO the reluctance from Higgs / CCC to do a deal were the tactics / attitude of SISU and again IMO the sale to WASPS was partially personal ie to "distress" / embarrass SISU like they tried to do to ACL.

Isn't that like expecting acl to be friends with the school bully, once he comes running back with a false apology...? Well once a bully, always a bully. And bullies always get their comeuppance...

 

[Skyblueweeman]

At the risk of not reading 6 pages, have the FL intervened yet? On anything? Is there anything to intervene on? Are they still spineless?

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