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[letsallsingtogether]

Yeah there is certainly a time and a place for it, but from MK onwards we were dreadful playing it. Both the Posh and Orient games reminded me of the first part of last year, we can only hope the defence (REDA) can hold stronger than last year.

Well SP said he Preferred 4-4-2 so there is hope yet.

Mind you when the question was put to him he was asked if he had ever thought of playing 1-1-8 got a good laugh.

 

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[covmark]

Southampton sold nearly their whole first team. They replaced them and are now doing fantastic this season. And they spent less than they brought in. We sold our strikers. We didn't replace them. We are doing shit.

Firstly, they didn't sell nearly the whole of their first team, so that's crap, and what people are trying to explain to you is, whoever you buy to replace departed players, are a gamble. Southampton weren't to know Pelle would bang the goals in or Wanyama would make such an impact. Even Koeman says he's surprised. We have replaced Wilson and Clarke with different strikers, but atm its not working out. That could easily have happened at Southampton.

Sometimes I wonder if you're genuinely thick, or just disagreeing for disagreements sake.

 

[letsallsingtogether]

Firstly, they didn't sell nearly the whole of their first team, so that's crap, and what people are trying to explain to you is, whoever you buy to replace departed players, are a gamble. Southampton weren't to know Pelle would bang the goals in or Wanyama would make such an impact. Even Koeman says he's surprised. We have replaced Wilson and Clarke with different strikers, but atm its not working out. That could easily have happened at Southampton.

Sometimes I wonder if you're genuinely thick, or just disagreeing for disagreements sake.

Just look at the pedigree of what we have replaced him with players on loan who can't get into their home team squads.
We had that last year it was called a bomb squad?

 

[covmark]

Just look at the pedigree of what we have replaced him with players on loan who can't get into their home team squads.
We had that last year it was called a bomb squad?

I know, maybe we should have put a bid in for Pelle and gazumped Southampton.

 

[stupot07]

Southampton sold nearly their whole first team. They replaced them and are now doing fantastic this season. And they spent less than they brought in. We sold our strikers. We didn't replace them. We are doing shit.

Technically we did replace them we have 6 strikers currently on the books.


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[LJC_CCFC]

Our strikers will start to score. This is a fact.

 

[stupot07]

Our strikers will start to score. This is a fact.

Which ones? If they do it will be far too late for anything but midtable mediocrity.


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[Grendel]

I know, maybe we should have put a bid in for Pelle and gazumped Southampton.

I think the biggest problem was waggott should have picked up that Van Persie was unsettled when Moyes was there and should have swooped.

 

[shy_tall_knight]

I believe Madine and Nouble is a top 6 striking partnership however - there is a good chance they will be gone by Jan then we start bringing in the has beens and never were strikers and SISU will be shocked by an even further fall in attendances.

 

[stupot07]

I believe Madine and Nouble is a top 6 striking partnership however - there is a good chance they will be gone by Jan then we start bringing in the has beens and never were strikers and SISU will be shocked by an even further fall in attendances.

They might well be...unfortunately we have a lower midtable midfield and a bottom 4 back four, and 2 Sunday league goal keepers


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[LJC_CCFC]

Which ones? If they do it will be far too late for anything but midtable mediocrity.


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Nouble, Jackson and Madine have the quality to score plenty. Both Miller and McQuoid have shown they can finish at this level. Tudgay is well...the less said about him the better atm. Maddison is slowly emerging as a talent. With 30 to play and us being only nine points off the play-offs, this season could yet be an above average one.

 

[LJC_CCFC]

Just look at Notts County. A squad of rejects and flops who currently sit nicely in the play offs. This is a shit league, we can still be promoted.

 

[Grendel]

They might well be...unfortunately we have a lower midtable midfield and a bottom 4 back four, and 2 Sunday league goal keepers


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Bit harsh on Sunday League Goalkeepers

 

[The Lurker]

Just look at Notts County. A squad of rejects and flops who currently sit nicely in the play offs. This is a shit league, we can still be promoted.

What drugs you on because I need some of them! This league is wide open yes but were simply not good enough to get into the top 7

 

[stupot07]

What drugs you on because I need some of them! This league is wide open yes but were simply not good enough to get into the top 7

I have to agree.


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[stupot07]

Nouble, Jackson and Madine have the quality to score plenty. Both Miller and McQuoid have shown they can finish at this level. Tudgay is well...the less said about him the better atm. Maddison is slowly emerging as a talent. With 30 to play and us being only nine points off the play-offs, this season could yet be an above average one.

How many has Jackson scored? 2 in 14, miller 2 in 12, Mcqoids done ok 5 in 15, tudguy 0 in 9. Hardly inspires confidence. I think nouble and madine would do ok.

We may only be 9 points off play offs but we know (and we had this debate for the last 2 years) that 73/74 points is usually the benchmark for 6th place. Forget everyone else you just need to get 73/74 points.

That means we need 56/57 points from the next 30 games - 1.87/1.9 points per game which is 86/87 points over a season. That means hitting and maintaining pretty much automatic promotion/top 3 form from now until the end of the season. could afford to lose probably no more than 2-3 in our last 30 games, and have to win at least 17-19 games to achieve that. We simply concede too many goals to go on that type of run for that sustained period.

It's depressing, but true.


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[ccfcway]

Pressley was asked about Wilson at Trust meeting on Monday and confirmed that club needed money, /QUOTE]

ah, the infamous Fisher "we can cover loses at Northampton"

 

[ccfc92]

What drugs you on because I need some of them! This league is wide open yes but were simply not good enough to get into the top 7

I'd say more don't have the winning mentality at the club personally, as I believe we do have a squad of good individuals, just not a good team.

If it got down to the last game of the season against a team in 3rd, and we were 2nd, level on points, and whoever wins gets promoted, we wouldn't win.

We'd bottle it

 

[LJC_CCFC]

How many has Jackson scored? 2 in 14, miller 2 in 12, Mcqoids done ok 5 in 15, tudguy 0 in 9. Hardly inspires confidence. I think nouble and madine would do ok.

We may only be 9 points off play offs but we know (and we had this debate for the last 2 years) that 73/74 points is usually the benchmark for 6th place. Forget everyone else you just need to get 73/74 points.

That means we need 56/57 points from the next 30 games - 1.87/1.9 points per game which is 86/87 points over a season. That means hitting and maintaining pretty much automatic promotion/top 3 form from now until the end of the season. could afford to lose probably no more than 2-3 in our last 30 games, and have to win at least 17-19 games to achieve that. We simply concede too many goals to go on that type of run for that sustained period.

It's depressing, but true.


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Same shit different day, I understand where you are coming from. Personally I'm disregarding the games in which we played 5-3-2 as in my opinion the system didn't give the squad the chance to show their quality/ability. How we perform in a 4-4-2 will decide a number of things: Whether Pressley is a good manager, how strong the squad really is and whether or not I know what I'm talking about (No need to answer the latter just yet ey lads). So far its 4 out of a possible 6 points, hopefully this can continue.

 

[Gazolba]

And we would be top of the league now.

Top of the league? Just because we kept Wilson? You must be joking! It takes more than one player to make a team. Wilson scored a lot because we had players providing him with service (Clarke, Baker, Moussa). Without them he would have struggled and have been worth far less. We sold him at the right time. Yes I wish we could have kept him along with all the other good players we let go. However, even with all of them we would be just a mid-table team as last season's position indicated.

 

[Gazolba]

Just look at Notts County. A squad of rejects and flops who currently sit nicely in the play offs. This is a shit league, we can still be promoted.

Sorry, no chance whatsoever. Can you really see us stringing six or seven wins together with this team? Bear in mind we will lose most of the loanees before the season is over. Factor in our terrible goal-keeper and weak bench and I believe we will struggle to escape relegation again.

 

[Gazolba]

Our strikers will start to score. This is a fact.

They have started to score and now it seems they have finished. Only Madine is left to start. I think he will probably prove to be the best we have signed. However, the jury is still out on whether we will be able to hold onto him.

 

[ccfcway]

Can you really see us stringing six or seven wins together with this team? .

don't think I have EVER seen CCFC string 6 wins together ?

 

[RoboCCFC90]

No offence to the OP but I f*&king hate threads like this. Yes, SISU are the devil in disguise but we got offered approx £3m deal, three players on loan (despite their quality) for a player who had one good season with us. The lad was going to quadruple his wages. It was a Win-Win-Win for everyone at the time.

You could say Spurs were stupid to sell Bale as he went on to score the winner in the Spanish Cup and ended up scoring whilst winning the Champions League. That's football FFS, get over it!

By far the most sensible post on the entire thread, Well said WM.

I totally concur with this post as well.


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[Gazolba]

Still think that we have a good squad

Depends what you mean by 'good'. We are very weak at goalkeeper - probably the most important position in the team.

 

[LJC_CCFC]

Depends what you mean by 'good'. We are very weak at goalkeeper - probably the most important position in the team.

Just got the tea ladies to have a pop at and you've successfully dissected the club/players/staff and their many failings. Take a rain check, this league is poor, this squad is at least above average. Can we still make a play off push? Yes. For you to think the keeper is the most important player on the team is hilarious, just ask Bristol City fans about Frank Fielding. Give Burge time.

 

[mighty quinn]

No offence to the OP but I f*&king hate threads like this. Yes, SISU are the devil in disguise but we got offered approx £3m deal, three players on loan (despite their quality) for a player who had one good season with us. The lad was going to quadruple his wages. It was a Win-Win-Win for everyone at the time.

You could say Spurs were stupid to sell Bale as he went on to score the winner in the Spanish Cup and ended up scoring whilst winning the Champions League. That's football FFS, get over it!

Can't compare Wilson with bale.another dreadful decision by owners.think he would have got us at least to the championship. Shortsighted and greed comes to mind.

 

[ecky]

You really are pissing in the wind with the morons on here mate.

I forgot your not allowed an opinion on here without the usual bitches biting back..did i slag you off covmark? No i stated the reality of CCFC in 2014.

I hate what commercialism and greed has done to football, and i hate companies using a club as a cloth to clean up the shite they make..

 

[Skyblueweeman]

I forgot your not allowed an opinion on here without the usual bitches biting back..did i slag you off covmark? No i stated the reality of CCFC in 2014.

I hate what commercialism and greed has done to football, and i hate companies using a club as a cloth to clean up the shite they make..

Get used to it ecky...it's happening in whatever league you look at (bar Germany)...

 

[skybluefred]

this squad is at least above average..

This squad is undoubtedly the worse squad in post war Coventry City history.

 

[ccfcway]

This squad is undoubtedly the worse squad in post war Coventry City history.

sadly agree.

 

[LJC_CCFC]

This squad is undoubtedly the worse squad in post war Coventry City history.

*worst

That may be the case, but in the context of this league it is a strong squad.

Let's just see where we are at Xmas.

 

[letsallsingtogether]

Sorry we don't have a strong squad if that was true we would replace the injured and banned players easily, and win most of our games.
BTW we usually do well up to Xmas so that is no marker. It is what we do after Xmas this season that will matter.

*worst

That may be the case, but in the context of this league it is a strong squad.

Let's just see where we are at Xmas.

 

[LJC_CCFC]

Sorry we don't have a strong squad if that was true we would replace the injured and banned players easily, and win most of our games.
BTW we usually do well up to Xmas so that is no marker. It is what we do after Xmas this season that will matter.

Phillips
Willis
Hines
Johnson
Martin
Haynes
Pugh
O'Brien
Fleck
Coulibaly
Swanson
Madine
Jackson
McQuoid
Nouble
Miller

These are all mid to low championship/League one standard players...therefore the bulk of our squad is strong.

We lack strength/depth in goal and in central midfield atm. This may or may not be dealt with by Pressley.

 

[turlykerd]

urgh ... same ol crap .. if we had wilson an sturrage up front.... etc etc ...

fair play to the lad, and well done... the cov boy is doing well..

i was in bournemouth last week to see john bishop with my lad, and tbh the sea front was real nice.. its an on the up area with an on the up football club