A good week (14 Viewers)

[Moff]

Unfortunately a few people on here ditched a lot of their principles when SISU were trying to screw over a local charity and our council.

Thank god then that it was Wasps who screwed the local charity and not SISU. This must have helped some people on the site, being so pleased that someone else did the job instead of SISU.

Thankfully some of us didnt want anyone to screw them, and so are disgusted with all parties.

 

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[Nick]

Unfortunately a few people on here ditched a lot of their principles when SISU were trying to screw over a local charity and our council.

They said their only concern is CCFC. If what SISU does benefits CCFC that's all that matters.

I may have a bad recollection but I think you yourself may have said you are not particularly bothered about Coventry itself just CCFC at one point.

The OP only cares about Coventry full stop.
He is not too concerned about high Wycombe his concern is Coventry.

Yet the people who actually did screw them over are ok, lets go support them? It is ironic though, when it was SISU trying to pay a low price to Higgs you were captain save the starving kids. When Wasps actually do pay a low price to Higgs it isn't actually that bad. It is strange how these principles change all the time isn't it depending on who is doing it?

"FIX FOOTBALL, WE CAN'T HAVE OWNERS MOVING TEAMS FOR MONEY".."what's that? top class rugby moving in, get me a ticket"

So people didn't have principles because they went to watch THEIR OWN TEAM play, but they love Coventry if they go and watch a team parachuted in. I assume it would be the same if another Footy Team had moved in would it? As long as they are in Coventry we must support them?

Was this when you were getting all emotional about how proud of the council you were?

 

[Otis]

Thank god then that it was Wasps who screwed the local charity and not SISU. This must have helped some people on the site, being so pleased that someone else did the job instead of SISU.

Thankfully some of us didnt want anyone to screw them, and so are disgusted with all parties.

I think we have to be careful here and not get too carried away. I can't be disgusted with Wasps themselves, just their owners. You have to say their fans and the players are all innocent parties in this. Yes, for sure, players and fans could refuse to attend or play, but for the players that is never going to happen and the fans at the end of day surely only want to see their team play.

I don't therefore desperatly want Wasps to lose. I do hope the franchise struggles to make ends meet here, cos that may prove to be to the benefit of Coventry City, but I can't actively seek to hope the team lose every week.

I'm really annoyed with our owners and with the council and with the owners of Wasps, but can't extend that vitriol to the Wasps team and fans.

They're here now and there's nowt we can do about it and as has been said ad infinitum, rugby fans are a different breed. My daugther's best friend has a dad who is rugby mad and is a Cov fan through and through, but he's said he will go and watch Wasps play.

It's a different world with differing loyalties to the football world we all know and we have to accept that unfortuntely, but I can't be bitter enough to wish their club to lose every week.

 

[italiahorse]

Thank god then that it was Wasps who screwed the local charity and not SISU. This must have helped some people on the site, being so pleased that someone else did the job instead of SISU.

Thankfully some of us didnt want anyone to screw them, and so are disgusted with all parties.

The screwing was from Sisu and it drove the price of ACL down.
Sisu thought they were the only tenant in town.
Having driven it down below it's market value, instead of stepping in there, they continued to turn the screws in what then could now be termed greed.
Ex. ( Sisu share valued at zero but as your a charity we'll give you £2M?) (JR to challenge ACL financing)
I'm sure the amount spent on legal battles (by the club ?) would have been better spent on buying ACL at the higher value.

Wasps must have been sitting in wait.

 

[Nick]

The screwing was from Sisu and it drove the price of ACL down.
Sisu thought they were the only tenant in town.
Having driven it down below it's market value, instead of stepping in there, they continued to turn the screws in what then could now be termed greed.
Ex. ( Sisu share valued at zero but as your a charity we'll give you £2M?) (JR to challenge ACL financing)
I'm sure the amount spent on legal battles (by the club ?) would have been better spent on buying ACL at the higher value.

Wasps must have been sitting in wait.

So that makes it ok? It is like me trying to mug somebody and tripping them up and then me legging it, but somebody else mugging them after while they are down still. Doesn't make it any better does it?

 

[italiahorse]

Thank god then that it was Wasps who screwed the local charity and not SISU. This must have helped some people on the site, being so pleased that someone else did the job instead of SISU.

Thankfully some of us didnt want anyone to screw them, and so are disgusted with all parties.

Sisu drove ACL market value down by removing one of the tenants.
They got greedy and were going for the freehold.
Wasps bought it ACL that value, surely ?

 

[italiahorse]

So that makes it ok? It is like me trying to mug somebody and tripping them up and then me legging it, but somebody else mugging them after while they are down still. Doesn't make it any better does it?

No it's not a mugging it's business.
You could probably call offering Higgs £2M as a goodwill gesture on something they valued at zero as a potential mugging.

CCC have nothing to loose with a successful Ricoh.
They still own the freehold and I assume there will be rent payable of some sort.
Living close by the area will hopefully start to take off.

 

[Nick]

No it's not a mugging it's business.
You could probably call offering Higgs £2M as a goodwill gesture on something they valued at zero as a potential mugging.

Surely that is business as well? Or does it swap and change?

Especially as Wasps didn't actually pay them much more for it.

 

[ajsccfc]

The Wasps move has outed an incredible hypocrisy at this forum to a bewildering level. There's literally no chance of any kind of credible discussion to be had here any longer, even though that was a dwindling chance before at best.

 

[duffer]

I think we have to be careful here and not get too carried away. I can't be disgusted with Wasps themselves, just their owners. You have to say their fans and the players are all innocent parties in this. Yes, for sure, players and fans could refuse to attend or play, but for the players that is never going to happen and the fans at the end of day surely only want to see their team play.

I don't therefore desperatly want Wasps to lose. I do hope the franchise struggles to make ends meet here, cos that may prove to be to the benefit of Coventry City, but I can't actively seek to hope the team lose every week.

I'm really annoyed with our owners and with the council and with the owners of Wasps, but can't extend that vitriol to the Wasps team and fans.

They're here now and there's nowt we can do about it and as has been said ad infinitum, rugby fans are a different breed. My daugther's best friend has a dad who is rugby mad and is a Cov fan through and through, but he's said he will go and watch Wasps play.

It's a different world with differing loyalties to the football world we all know and we have to accept that unfortuntely, but I can't be bitter enough to wish their club to lose every week.

It's not bitter mate, it's pragmatic. I want Wasps to fail because in the long run I think that offers the local football and rugby club a better chance of success. It also means something that I think is immoral, the franchising of a club away from it's core support, might ultimately fail.

As for those desperate to watch top-flight rugby, Leicester and Northampton aren't far away - or you could do the decent thing and support the team that's represented Coventry since 1874 and is showing signs of pushing it's way back up towards that league. It's a lot more honest in my book. Those who support both teams I'm guessing in the main haven't really troubled themselves to think things through (with the exception of a few like MMM, who has at least considered it and put up an reasonable argument for why it doesn't hurt CRFC - even if that's not one I buy personally, in truth).

As far as I'm concerned it's pretty simple, those going to support Wasps have no right to complain if or when our owners decide to take us out of Coventry again. They've accepted that owners are free to move their clubs as they see fit, and are happy to support that.

It's a free country and that's their choice - mine is to boycott the franchise and hope that it fails. Just business, nothing personal.

 

[Otis]

It's not bitter mate, it's pragmatic. I want Wasps to fail because in the long run I think that offers the local football and rugby club a better chance of success. It also means something that I think is immoral, the franchising of a club away from it's core support, might ultimately fail.

As for those desperate to watch top-flight rugby, Leicester and Northampton aren't far away - or you could do the decent thing and support the team that's represented Coventry since 1874 and is showing signs of pushing it's way back up towards that league. It's a lot more honest in my book. Those who support both teams, I'm guessing in the main haven't really troubled themselves to think things through (with the exception of a few like MMM, who has at least considered it and put up an reasonable argument for why it doesn't hurt CRFC - even if that's not one I buy personally, in truth).

As far as I'm concerned it's pretty simple, those going to support Wasps have no right to complain if or when our owners decide to take us out of Coventry again. They've accepted that owners are free to move their clubs as see fit, and are happy to support that.

It's a free country and that's their choice - mine is to boycott the franchise and hope that it fails. Just business, nothing personal.

Yep, totally agree with that last statement Duffer and as I said, I also want the move here to not prove financially viable for Wasps, so that they do indeed desperately need us at the Ricoh.

That's not the point I am making though. I'm talking about people who now seem to now almost seemingly have a real hatred towards Wasps and hope they lose every game.

I just don't have that bone of contention with them and am taking into consideration the players and the fans of that club.

And as I said, this bloke I know is a Cov fan through and through but he WILL be going to watch Wasps play. He's a rugby fan and they are a different breed, many of which simply do not hold the degree of loyalty that we as football fans hold.

I find it a bit embarrassing people wanting Wasps to lose every game. The way I see it, they can still struggle financially here even if the team on the pitch are doing well.

 

[Ashdown]

It's not bitter mate, it's pragmatic. I want Wasps to fail because in the long run I think that offers the local football and rugby club a better chance of success. It also means something that I think is immoral, the franchising of a club away from it's core support, might ultimately fail.

As for those desperate to watch top-flight rugby, Leicester and Northampton aren't far away - or you could do the decent thing and support the team that's represented Coventry since 1874 and is showing signs of pushing it's way back up towards that league. It's a lot more honest in my book. Those who support both teams, I'm guessing in the main haven't really troubled themselves to think things through (with the exception of a few like MMM, who has at least considered it and put up an reasonable argument for why it doesn't hurt CRFC - even if that's not one I buy personally, in truth).

As far as I'm concerned it's pretty simple, those going to support Wasps have no right to complain if or when our owners decide to take us out of Coventry again. They've accepted that owners are free to move their clubs as see fit, and are happy to support that.

It's a free country and that's their choice - mine is to boycott the franchise and hope that it fails. Just business, nothing personal.

Great Post, nailed it !

 

[Ashdown]

Yep, totally agree with that last statement Duffer and as I said, I also want the move here to not prove financially viable for Wasps, so that they do indeed desperately need us at the Ricoh.

That's not the point I am making though. I'm talking about people who now seem to now almost seemingly have a real hatred towards Wasps and hope they lose every game.

I just don't have that bone of contention with them and am taking into consideration the players and the fans of that club.

And as I said, this bloke I know is a Cov fan through and through but he WILL be going to watch Wasps play. He's a rugby fan and they are a different breed, many of which simply do not hold the degree of loyalty that we as football fans hold.

I find it a bit embarrassing people wanting Wasps to lose every game. The way I see it, they can still struggle financially here even if the team on the pitch are doing well.

Nah fuck 'em !

 

[duffer]

Yep, totally agree with that last statement Duffer and as I said, I also want the move here to not prove financially viable for Wasps, so that they do indeed desperately need us at the Ricoh.

That's not the point I am making though. I'm talking about people who now seem to now almost seemingly have a real hatred towards Wasps and hope they lose every game.

I just don't have that bone of contention with them and am taking into consideration the players and the fans of that club.

And as I said, this bloke I know is a Cov fan through and through but he WILL be going to watch Wasps play. He's a rugby fan and they are a different breed, many of which simply do not hold the degree of loyalty that we as football fans hold.

I find it a bit embarrassing people wanting Wasps to lose every game. The way I see it, they can still struggle financially here even if the team on the pitch are doing well.

Otis mate, I take your point, but the more Wasps lose, the more likely the franchise is to fail. In the same way that it's just business to the owners, it's just business to me too.

I don't wish current Wasps fans any ill, and I'm truly sorry that they find themselves in this situation. As for 'new' Coventry-based Wasps fans, I couldn't care less about them, if they choose to support the franchise and it fails, tough luck. They can go and support Leicester or Northampton or someone else who plays top-flight rugby and isn't a franchise. I doubt people who take up supporting top-flight rugby because it's now a bit more convenient will be too gutted at the loss of an occasional day out.

And just to make the point, I'm a rugby fan too. In fact, since we went to Northampton I've been to more CRFC games than CCFC games. My loyalty is to CRFC, and for that reason I wouldn't go to Wasps either. I'll absolutely accept that some will go to both, but certainly not all, and we really aren't a different breed - just mostly a bit older and a tad more phlegmatic perhaps. We also don't generally get upset by sitting next to fans supporting the opposite team, as long as we can have a pint and a laugh.

Edit: And I should add, not looking for a row here Otis - what you say is perfectly fair enough, but we differ slightly is all.

 

[rupert_bear]

Wasps will prosper here of that I am sure and as they do will grab support from kids and youngsters in the area because people love winners. CRFC are at the level they want, had chances in the past to join the professional rugby game but declined.that's fine but nothing to do with Wasps, they will attract support from the Birmingham area, where there is no top prem rugger club and they knew that when they plumped for the Ricoh

 

[Ashdown]

Wasps will prosper here of that I am sure and as they do will grab support from kids and youngsters in the area because people love winners. CRFC are at the level they want, had chances in the past to join the professional rugby game but declined.that's fine but nothing to do with Wasps, they will attract support from the Birmingham area, where there is no top prem rugger club and they knew that when they plumped for the Ricoh

Can't agree with that. CRFC are not at the level they want at all. After the absolute disaster that was Keith Fairbrother the club are rebuilding in a sensible and viable fashion. They remain solvent and even turned a small profit last year. Of course they strive to progress but they are trying to do things in a sustainable way and you have to applaud that in this day and age. Wasps are for those type of people who want to attach themselves immediately to the big time, often the same folk who will support a top Prem team to be in with the in crowd. There is a big market for that in 2014, which shows how shallow people can be.

 

[Samo]

I think we have to be careful here and not get too carried away. I can't be disgusted with Wasps themselves, just their owners. You have to say their fans and the players are all innocent parties in this. Yes, for sure, players and fans could refuse to attend or play, but for the players that is never going to happen and the fans at the end of day surely only want to see their team play.

I don't therefore desperatly want Wasps to lose. I do hope the franchise struggles to make ends meet here, cos that may prove to be to the benefit of Coventry City, but I can't actively seek to hope the team lose every week.

I'm really annoyed with our owners and with the council and with the owners of Wasps, but can't extend that vitriol to the Wasps team and fans.

They're here now and there's nowt we can do about it and as has been said ad infinitum, rugby fans are a different breed. My daugther's best friend has a dad who is rugby mad and is a Cov fan through and through, but he's said he will go and watch Wasps play.

It's a different world with differing loyalties to the football world we all know and we have to accept that unfortuntely, but I can't be bitter enough to wish their club to lose every week.

Must you be so fucking reasonable Otis?

 

[letsallsingtogether]

Can't agree with that. CRFC are not at the level they want at all. After the absolute disaster that was Keith Fairbrother the club are rebuilding in a sensible and viable fashion. They remain solvent and even turned a small profit last year. Of course they strive to progress but they are trying to do things in a sustainable way and you have to applaud that in this day and age. Wasps are for those type of people who want to attach themselves immediately to the big time, often the same folk who will support a top Prem team to be in with the in crowd. There is a big market for that in 2014, which shows how shallow people can be.

Shallow indeed the rest support Man Utd

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Can't agree with that. CRFC are not at the level they want at all. After the absolute disaster that was Keith Fairbrother the club are rebuilding in a sensible and viable fashion. They remain solvent and even turned a small profit last year. Of course they strive to progress but they are trying to do things in a sustainable way and you have to applaud that in this day and age. Wasps are for those type of people who want to attach themselves immediately to the big time, often the same folk who will support a top Prem team to be in with the in crowd. There is a big market for that in 2014, which shows how shallow people can be.

Agree totally.

 

[letsallsingtogether]

Otis mate, I take your point, but the more Wasps lose, the more likely the franchise is to fail. In the same way that it's just business to the owners, it's just business to me too.

I don't wish current Wasps fans any ill, and I'm truly sorry that they find themselves in this situation. As for 'new' Coventry-based Wasps fans, I couldn't care less about them, if they choose to support the franchise and it fails, tough luck. They can go and support Leicester or Northampton or someone else who plays top-flight rugby and isn't a franchise. I doubt people who take up supporting top-flight rugby because it's now a bit more convenient will be too gutted at the loss of an occasional day out.

And just to make the point, I'm a rugby fan too. In fact, since we went to Northampton I've been to more CRFC games than CCFC games. My loyalty is to CRFC, and for that reason I wouldn't go to Wasps either. I'll absolutely accept that some will go to both, but certainly not all, and we really aren't a different breed - just mostly a bit older and a tad more phlegmatic perhaps. We also don't generally get upset by sitting next to fans supporting the opposite team, as long as we can have a pint and a laugh.

Edit: And I should add, not looking for a row here Otis - what you say is perfectly fair enough, but we differ slightly is all.

So if CCFC move to their new Ground and then the Wasps fold what then for he Ricoh another blot on the landscape that this City doesn't need.
It will be too late for the CCFC by then, with average crowds of maybe 5000 looks like the winners would be CRFC as they will be the only local sports club, if Wasps don't kill them off.
Then again I would love to watch the Blue and Whites play at the Ricoh to a full house.

 

[Captain Dart]

What a lot of hypotheticals.

 

[wingy]

Even without Wasps, we are reaching a point where someone saying "they are going to the game at the weekend" doesn't mean going to watch the City like it once did.

The number of people attending non CCFC sports events in the city is now approaching 5k each weekend, when you consider CCFC are only getting 8k at games it doesn't bode well for the future.

Indeed BFR, another tangible example of Fshers lamentable reign here.

Possibly 1500 of those directly sampling other codes .

The other 5K lost It appears ,around the same as under Ransons tenure and he had to go didn't he .

Stand down Fisher !!!

 

[Astute]

Indeed BFR, another tangible example of Fshers lamentable reign here.

Possibly 1500 of those directly sampling other codes .

The other 5K lost It appears ,around the same as under Ransons tenure and he had to go didn't he .

Stand down Fisher !!!

If it is Fisher the idiot he should go ASAP. If it is Fisher the mouthpiece for Joy he will be staying whatever Joy certainly gets an easy time considering what has happened to our club. Fisher takes all the shit.

 

[wingy]

If it is Fisher the idiot he should go ASAP. If it is Fisher the mouthpiece for Joy he will be staying whatever Joy certainly gets an easy time considering what has happened to our club. Fisher takes all the shit.

I know not many agree with my viewpoint ,yet like Ranson I think he has autonomy or had It up to the point where the £400k rent was rejected.

His business Is based around Company restructures ,It's entirely possible he was In the background at the time of Otiums creation , was surprised to

find recently that he was a director of Prozone back as early to mid 2011.

It's possible he even has a financial stake within the set up.


Although he never stepped up until (was It Dec 2012 ?) I think It's entirely plausible he Initiated the Asset Shifts etc prior to the rent strike

again I see him heavily Involved there.


Despite his many protestations of "Joys day to day hands on, She's Barking" comments / statements ,I find them as convenient cover for smoothing

his way .JMO

 

[duffer]

Wasps will prosper here of that I am sure and as they do will grab support from kids and youngsters in the area because people love winners. CRFC are at the level they want, had chances in the past to join the professional rugby game but declined.that's fine but nothing to do with Wasps, they will attract support from the Birmingham area, where there is no top prem rugger club and they knew that when they plumped for the Ricoh

CRFC just won ten on the bounce mate. Ten. How many more do they have to win before all of the people suddenly desperate to watch rugby in Coventry turn up at the Butts?

And if you think Cov rugby are happy at the level they're at now, then clearly you've got no understanding of the game. Wasps plumped for the Ricoh because it's a giveaway at the price, and f*cked off the thousands of fans they've got near their true home for the glory-hunters they'll hope to gain here. They probably won't be disappointed for the first few games, but let's see how it's going in a year or two and the free tickets have dried up. Maybe they'll prosper and maybe they won't, but there's no way you or I can tell, that's for sure.

 

[mark82]

So if CCFC move to their new Ground and then the Wasps fold what then for he Ricoh another blot on the landscape that this City doesn't need.
It will be too late for the CCFC by then, with average crowds of maybe 5000 looks like the winners would be CRFC as they will be the only local sports club, if Wasps don't kill them off.
Then again I would love to watch the Blue and Whites play at the Ricoh to a full house.

Maybe we can move a premier league club in. Aston Villa maybe? But drop the Aston bit to make it ok.

 

[Astute]

If Wasps came to Coventry expecting us to start supporting them as people love winners they are going to be on a loser. We support CCFC after all and can prove the theory to be wrong.

 

[duffer]

So if CCFC move to their new Ground and then the Wasps fold what then for he Ricoh another blot on the landscape that this City doesn't need.
It will be too late for the CCFC by then, with average crowds of maybe 5000 looks like the winners would be CRFC as they will be the only local sports club, if Wasps don't kill them off.
Then again I would love to watch the Blue and Whites play at the Ricoh to a full house.

That's the gamble that CCC and AEHC have chosen to take. Personally I don't feel obliged to support Wasps to back them in it.

If the Ricoh ends up being turned into housing, or something else completely different now, so be it. I'd rather it was used by the club it was built for, but given what's gone on I can see how that's no longer certain. With SISU at the helm it never was in fairness - but now I can see more than just the stupidness of our owners as a reason for moving on.

 

[dongonzalos]

Yet the people who actually did screw them over are ok, lets go support them? It is ironic though, when it was SISU trying to pay a low price to Higgs you were captain save the starving kids. When Wasps actually do pay a low price to Higgs it isn't actually that bad. It is strange how these principles change all the time isn't it depending on who is doing it?

"FIX FOOTBALL, WE CAN'T HAVE OWNERS MOVING TEAMS FOR MONEY".."what's that? top class rugby moving in, get me a ticket"

So people didn't have principles because they went to watch THEIR OWN TEAM play, but they love Coventry if they go and watch a team parachuted in. I assume it would be the same if another Footy Team had moved in would it? As long as they are in Coventry we must support them?

Was this when you were getting all emotional about how proud of the council you were?

I don't think a charity should get ripped off and never have.
They agreed to the wasps price. I wish they had got all their money back and anyone who thinks otherwise IMO has some twisted morals.

The council I can see past your sky blue tinted glasses and understand why they took they deal. They would have been crazy holding out hope for CCFC and telling wasps to go else where.

So after all the defection back to the point. The chap says he loves Coventry (as a whole) above all else. So he puts all his other opinions outside of Coventry in second place. He doesn't care about the rugby fans in Wycombe.

To me that is the same as those people who don't give a dam when a private company screw over a charity as long as it benefits CCFC. As they only think about CCFC.

I don't particularly like either stance its just they both seem the same to me.

Out of interest was there a lot of outrage when we stole Solihull's ice hockey team?

I really can't recall all these CCFC fans that were horrified at the time?

Or did most people not give a toss as it didn't affect CCFC?

 

[bigfatronssba]

I don't think a charity should get ripped off and never have.
They agreed to the wasps price. I wish they had got all their money back and anyone who thinks otherwise IMO has some twisted morals.

The council I can see past your sky blue tinted glasses and understand why they took they deal. They would have been crazy holding out hope for CCFC and telling wasps to go else where.

So after all the defection back to the point. The chap says he loves Coventry (as a whole) above all else. So he puts all his other opinions outside of Coventry in second place. He doesn't care about the rugby fans in Wycombe.

To me that is the same as those people who don't give a dam when a private company screw over a charity as long as it benefits CCFC. As they only think about CCFC.

I don't particularly like either stance its just they both seem the same to me.

Out of interest was there a lot of outrage when we stole Solihull's ice hockey team?

I really can't recall all these CCFC fans that were horrified at the time?

Or did most people not give a toss as it didn't affect CCFC?

Equally so where is the outrage at London Irish moving out of London to Reading?

Where is the outrage at London Welsh moving out of London to Oxford?

 

[letsallsingtogether]

If Wasps came to Coventry expecting us to start supporting them as people love winners they are going to be on a loser. We support CCFC after all and can prove the theory to be wrong.

Unfortunately I doubt they are targeting the 8000 of us that support CCFC.

They will target the other ones that find it easier to support the top Premier teams for exactly that reason.

 

[dongonzalos]

Equally so where is the outrage at London Irish moving out of London to Reading?

Where is the outrage at London Welsh moving out of London to Oxford?

It won't exist, fact of the matter is people are only pissed off because it affects CCFC.
Think someone mentioned something about the wasps move highlighting a lot of hypocrisy. I think they maybe right, but possibly not quite as they meant....

 

[Nick]

It won't exist, fact of the matter is people are only pissed off because it affects CCFC.
Think someone mentioned something about the wasps move highlighting a lot of hypocrisy. I think they maybe right, but possibly not quite as they meant....

I think you are struggling to understand.

Some people went to Sixfields to watch their team play, the team they have supported all of their life and that they love so they went there. These other people liked to call them names such as spineless, selfish, not real city fans etc because they didn't agree with the move and moving teams was wrong. FIX FOOTBALL, the FL allowed this move it needs to be sorted.

Now, another team has moved in to the Ricoh and some of the people who were saying these things about the people who just wanted to watch their team, are actually defending a rugby team being moved and saying how good it is and how they can't wait to go and watch etc etc.

SO, to sum it up. These people who liked to have a go at people watching their team, are going to go and watch a random team they have no affinity with that has been moved halfway up the country.

Now the Council were saying how wrong it was for clubs to be moved, city belongs in coventry etc etc then sell to a team to be moved, can you see the logic and why people think it may make them look bad? I am pretty sure if say the council had sold up to Cov Rugby Club or Cov United it would be a different story. OR if a couple of months earlier (when they probably knew that Wasps were buying it anyway) they weren't giving it loads about ccfc being in coventry to go on a PR offensive it wouldn't be half as bad would it?

Maybe you should be asking the people who were dead against Franchising and didn't want to go and watch SISU FC when we went to Sixfields why they weren't bothered about the other Rugby clubs being moved?

That is what is annoying people you will find.

Now I am not saying it is everybody who was against sixfields, for example there are lots of people LAST, BHSB, Duffer etc who were against Sixfields and against Wasps moving.

 

[Moff]

It won't exist, fact of the matter is people are only pissed off because it affects CCFC.
Think someone mentioned something about the wasps move highlighting a lot of hypocrisy. I think they maybe right, but possibly not quite as they meant....

Its me and is exactly what I menat. It is hypocritical. I can speak for myself thanks and dont need you and your tag mate Bigfatron to speak for me, as I certainly dont want your rhetoric coming from my mouth.

How do you know I dont think the Irish and Welsh moves were disgusting, because I did. Its just I didnt try to preach about like you and Bigfatronsba to try to prove a point...oh and why wasnt it discussed on here, oh let me see is it because its a CCFC forum and only the Wasps move affects CCFC, not the other two. Perhaps if youy want to discuss Irish and Welsh you should bugger off to there forums.:facepalm:

 

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Its me and is exactly what I menat. It is hypocritical. I can speak for myself thanks and dont need you and your tag mate Bigfatron to speak for me, as I certainly dont want your rhetoric coming from my mouth.

How do you know I dont think the Irish and Welsh moves were disgusting, because I did. Its just I didnt try to preach about like you and Bigfatronsba to try to prove a point...oh and why wasnt it discussed on here, oh let me see is it because its a CCFC forum and only the Wasps move affects CCFC, not the other two. Perhaps if youy want to discuss Irish and Welsh you should bugger off to there forums.:facepalm:

Actually it wasn't you.