Well said Gosford Green ........ (2 Viewers)

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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Apologies if I appear to have hi-jacked Gosford's thread concerning demonstrations against our owners at the next home match . If anything I would wish to keep the debate going but this particular angle of mine isn't one that particularly sits with that thread given the direction that debate has taken right now.

Last week I think I opened a thread concerning the chap behind the goal at Chesterfield with the large SISU OUT banner who received little support from those around him. People on here commented that he was probably in the wrong place etc (the ground is too big for 10,000, basically) He was ignored, made to look a little odd by onlookers who wanted a quiet day at the match. I hope he returns next match .

We have had marches and cards held up at away games that have reached national television. We have supporters mistreated in the recent past by heavy handed stewards all too keen to silence those committed to voicing their disgust at our owner's neglect of our club. I have had my young daughter searched by stewards outside the ground at the last 2 home games, despite her young age, despite showing them her season ticket. It is unnecessary.

For the first time in my life the initials "C.C.F.C." are synonymous with mistrust, frustration and anger. To me, they represent that body of our club (management) that is the sleeping partner of our owners. The initials no longer conjure memories of players, manager, Ryton training ground etc that I used to think of. The badge of the elephant on the ball etc is what I cling to as something I am sincerely proud of, but not CCFC, not until SISU either leave or do something to demonstrate that they really do mean to better my club. The initials CCFC/SISU are one and the same.

If individuals wish to demonstrate in any way they want to , as long it is done within the law, then let them. If they wish do sing, shout, hold up cards, hang banners up all over the city, let them. If they want to sit in block 2, block 17, 23, etc and vent their frustration, let them. Don't tell them it won't work, don't ask them why they waste their time, just let them do it. If the cameras aren't there so what ? If the national newspapers aren't swarming all over the Ricoh does that really make a difference ? If fans wish to take the NOPM option, then let them .

One day we may not have a club any more. Those who moan but do nothing will have no reason to complain . Those who chose to take action within the law in a way which demonstrates a growing frustration with the way our club is run have as much right to do so as those who sit on their hands and shake their heads at those who do. Either way it may make no difference whatsoever, but we are all city supporters. Lets remember that.

Well said Gosford Green . I hope it gets support. I now prepare for those far superior to me to pull this to shreds, for they know far more than I.
 

blueflint

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can't agree more with your statement m8 i'm still doing nopm and will unyil SISU leave
 

Nick

Administrator
I commented to say that if he wanted to get the chant going which he clearly did want then he would have been better off not in the family stand. Which is common sense isn't it?
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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Absolutely right Nick . I feel there is rather too much going over what has happened regarding the sale of the Ricoh - who was to blame, what SISU could and should have done. The fact is they took us away. They bought us back . They lost the Ricoh. May fans seem simply relieved that we are back and almost grateful for that, rather than the absolute catastrophe that this club has endured. In the meantime supporters are increasingly frustrated as to what, if anything, they can do. I say do what you want, within the law of course.
 

Godiva

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If individuals wish to demonstrate in any way they want to , as long it is done within the law, then let them. If they wish do sing, shout, hold up cards, hang banners up all over the city, let them. If they want to sit in block 2, block 17, 23, etc and vent their frustration, let them. Don't tell them it won't work, don't ask them why they waste their time, just let them do it. If the cameras aren't there so what ? If the national newspapers aren't swarming all over the Ricoh does that really make a difference ? If fans wish to take the NOPM option, then let them .

Your post is well written and I agree with parts. I do want to comment the paragraph above though.

If it were individuals or a small group just doing their own protest then I agree - let them do it. The problem is when they issue press releases trying to recruit members to their protest - then it's both fair and relevant to ask questions about their motives, aims and expected results.
 

Nick

Administrator
And play to him but people will get behind things they believe in, If they don't hold a red card up for example out doesn't mean they love sisu.

If there are new People waiting to buy like this protest group say then get them out, get their plans over to the fans, let us Sr why they won't be another sisu and look how many will be backing it. I will for sure.
 
Apologies if I appear to have hi-jacked Gosford's thread concerning demonstrations against our owners at the next home match . If anything I would wish to keep the debate going but this particular angle of mine isn't one that particularly sits with that thread given the direction that debate has taken right now.

Last week I think I opened a thread concerning the chap behind the goal at Chesterfield with the large SISU OUT banner who received little support from those around him. People on here commented that he was probably in the wrong place etc (the ground is too big for 10,000, basically) He was ignored, made to look a little odd by onlookers who wanted a quiet day at the match. I hope he returns next match .

We have had marches and cards held up at away games that have reached national television. We have supporters mistreated in the recent past by heavy handed stewards all too keen to silence those committed to voicing their disgust at our owner's neglect of our club. I have had my young daughter searched by stewards outside the ground at the last 2 home games, despite her young age, despite showing them her season ticket. It is unnecessary.

For the first time in my life the initials "C.C.F.C." are synonymous with mistrust, frustration and anger. To me, they represent that body of our club (management) that is the sleeping partner of our owners. The initials no longer conjure memories of players, manager, Ryton training ground etc that I used to think of. The badge of the elephant on the ball etc is what I cling to as something I am sincerely proud of, but not CCFC, not until SISU either leave or do something to demonstrate that they really do mean to better my club. The initials CCFC/SISU are one and the same.

If individuals wish to demonstrate in any way they want to , as long it is done within the law, then let them. If they wish do sing, shout, hold up cards, hang banners up all over the city, let them. If they want to sit in block 2, block 17, 23, etc and vent their frustration, let them. Don't tell them it won't work, don't ask them why they waste their time, just let them do it. If the cameras aren't there so what ? If the national newspapers aren't swarming all over the Ricoh does that really make a difference ? If fans wish to take the NOPM option, then let them .

One day we may not have a club any more. Those who moan but do nothing will have no reason to complain . Those who chose to take action within the law in a way which demonstrates a growing frustration with the way our club is run have as much right to do so as those who sit on their hands and shake their heads at those who do. Either way it may make no difference whatsoever, but we are all city supporters. Lets remember that.

Well said Gosford Green . I hope it gets support. I now prepare for those far superior to me to pull this to shreds, for they know far more than I.

Possibly the best post on here for months. Well said. Sisu out
 

skybluedan

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And play to him but people will get behind things they believe in, If they don't hold a red card up for example out doesn't mean they love sisu.

If there are new People waiting to buy like this protest group say then get them out, get their plans over to the fans, let us Sr why they won't be another sisu and look how many will be backing it. I will for sure.

You know what I am totally out of sync now with this, people want to buy us? Last I heard fisher was about to deliver some news in the new year? I fuckin love this site
 

Nick

Administrator
You know what I am totally out of sync now with this, people want to buy us? Last I heard fisher was about to deliver some news in the new year? I fuckin love this site

According to this new protest group there are 2 maybe 3 consortiums..

My point is get them out in the open, let the fans see how good they are to get behind them. Everything being a secret is what people hate about SISU isn't it?

Fair play to the actual guy who did stand up and sing SISU out though, he caused no harm, no swearing etc. I can see why people didn't want to join in, in the Family Stand and think if he was closer to block 15 / 16 more would have joined in. The stewards had a word with him at the start, obviously judged he was harmless and wasn't causing trouble and left him to it all game. Yes he tried to get people involved, but he didn't give people abuse or anything for not joining in. Just went again after 10 - 15 minutes.
 

skybluedan

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Yeah think your right mate if there was someone serious who was waiting in the wings then yeah be good to find out what there about and have something to get behind
 

Ian1779

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According to this new protest group there are 2 maybe 3 consortiums..

My point is get them out in the open, let the fans see how good they are to get behind them. Everything being a secret is what people hate about SISU isn't it?

There aren't any real consortiums out there though are there... just more people talking bollocks with nothing to back it up.

That's what fucks me off with these people... getting people's hopes up and then delivering nothing.

More chance of us playing our home games in Narnia than one of these actually producing the goods.
 

Nick

Administrator
There aren't any real consortiums out there though are there... just more people talking bollocks with nothing to back it up.

That's what fucks me off with these people... getting people's hopes up and then delivering nothing.

More chance of us playing our home games in Narnia than one of these actually producing the goods.

Which is why the bloke who turned up, watched the game, held up a flag saying SISU out and then went in my book is fair play and the more I think about it, the more I take my hat off to him! There was no brainwashing, there was no bullet point listings, no statements, no having a go at others for not joining in, no complex algorithm to when you should hold something up, it was just pure and simple "we want sisu out." He caused no harm to anybody else, wasn't aggressive (apart from swinging the flag to keep himself in rhythm). Fair play to him!

Even if they just said "we want to protest against sisu because we think they are pricks", it is much better than all of the statements, the bullet point reasons, the stuff about buyers and getting them out. Just get to the point "They are pricks, we are going to tell them we think they are pricks, who's in?".
 

skybluefred

New Member
There aren't any real consortiums out there though are there... just more people talking bollocks with nothing to back it up.

That's what fucks me off with these people... getting people's hopes up and then delivering nothing.

More chance of us playing our home games in Narnia than one of these actually producing the goods.

And the reason our world is going down the pan is because people like you will not get off their backsides
and protest against all of the wrong doings. Just keep the peace and accept utter rubbish because I can't be bothered.
 

skybluefred

New Member
Which is why the bloke who turned up, watched the game, held up a flag saying SISU out and then went in my book is fair play and the more I think about it, the more I take my hat off to him! There was no brainwashing, there was no bullet point listings, no statements, no having a go at others for not joining in, no complex algorithm to when you should hold something up, it was just pure and simple "we want sisu out." He caused no harm to anybody else, wasn't aggressive (apart from swinging the flag to keep himself in rhythm). Fair play to him!

Even if they just said "we want to protest against sisu because we think they are pricks", it is much better than all of the statements, the bullet point reasons, the stuff about buyers and getting them out. Just get to the point "They are pricks, we are going to tell them we think they are pricks, who's in?".


Pricks are very useful to 50% of society--and the other 50% would burst without them.
 

Ian1779

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And the reason our world is going down the pan is because people like you will not get off their backsides
and protest against all of the wrong doings. Just keep the peace and accept utter rubbish because I can't be bothered.

Really?

So tell me where is the evidence that is a protest about the injustices against CCFC? Will there be a coordinated protest with people outside the council house as well as in the Ricoh?

Seems to me like its a bunch of people looking for some attention for the sake of getting attention.

The co-ordinators of said protest are faceless... Rolling out unsubstantiated nonsense with not a single fact to back it up.

If this is oh so important... Lets hear from someone who will tell us what the purpose is and what positive will happen as a result.
 

Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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Really?

So tell me where is the evidence that is a protest about the injustices against CCFC? Will there be a coordinated protest with people outside the council house as well as in the Ricoh?

Seems to me like its a bunch of people looking for some attention for the sake of getting attention.

The co-ordinators of said protest are faceless... Rolling out unsubstantiated nonsense with not a single fact to back it up.

If this is oh so important... Lets hear from someone who will tell us what the purpose is and what positive will happen as a result.

Protests outside the Council House,been done.

Protests outside Ricoh,been done.

Protests in the Ricoh, been done.

Protests about the injustices against CCFC,I would have thought that that was the purpose of this protest wouldn't you? No of course you wouldn't.

Nothing positive will happen as a result,but I like a good protest so will be watching with great interest from block 16.
 

dongonzalos

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Which is why the bloke who turned up, watched the game, held up a flag saying SISU out and then went in my book is fair play and the more I think about it, the more I take my hat off to him! There was no brainwashing, there was no bullet point listings, no statements, no having a go at others for not joining in, no complex algorithm to when you should hold something up, it was just pure and simple "we want sisu out." He caused no harm to anybody else, wasn't aggressive (apart from swinging the flag to keep himself in rhythm). Fair play to him!

Even if they just said "we want to protest against sisu because we think they are pricks", it is much better than all of the statements, the bullet point reasons, the stuff about buyers and getting them out. Just get to the point "They are pricks, we are going to tell them we think they are pricks, who's in?".

If he posted his simple 'we want SISU out' as a thread on here. I would be intrigued to see your reply in that thread.

Something tells me it would not be 'FairPlay to you' ;)
 

letsallsingtogether

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Really?

So tell me where is the evidence that is a protest about the injustices against CCFC? Will there be a coordinated protest with people outside the council house as well as in the Ricoh?

Seems to me like its a bunch of people looking for some attention for the sake of getting attention.

The co-ordinators of said protest are faceless... Rolling out unsubstantiated nonsense with not a single fact to back it up.

If this is oh so important... Lets hear from someone who will tell us what the purpose is and what positive will happen as a result.

So you agree with Skybluefred then I know I do......
So what if they are face less look at the shit the likes of Michael or the trust or any one else gets on here.

When they do put out their names out there they are then accused of being attension seekers or just wanting their faces in the Media...


Can't win really some will always find some thing to moan about.

Always say shit like what is the point or answer this or that.....

I for one will also watch from the sidelines for a change.
 

Nick

Administrator
If he posted his simple 'we want SISU out' as a thread on here. I would be intrigued to see your reply in that thread.

Something tells me it would not be 'FairPlay to you' ;)
If it was a thread saying I'm going to go to the game and sing sisu out on my own with my flag, it would be fair play. With none of that other statements and crap that goes with it.

Have a look at some of the sixfields match threads when I am saying fair play to people on the hill ;)
 

letsallsingtogether

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If he posted his simple 'we want SISU out' as a thread on here. I would be intrigued to see your reply in that thread.

Something tells me it would not be 'FairPlay to you' ;)
:laugh::laugh: Like it.. never a truer word said..;)
 

dongonzalos

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If it was a thread saying I'm going to go to the game and sing sisu out on my own with my flag, it would be fair play. With none of that other statements and crap that goes with it.

Have a look at some of the sixfields match threads when I am saying fair play to people on the hill ;)

What's wrong with a one man protest on here a simple thread by a maybe 'not so simple bloke' that just says 'SISU Out'.
 

Nick

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What's wrong with a one man protest on here a simple thread by a maybe 'not so simple bloke' that just says 'SISU Out'.
A bloke going to a game on his own and standing up on his own singing sisu out while everybody looks at him. Agree with his views or not, it's slightly different to somebody on here posting sisu out over and over no?
 

dongonzalos

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A bloke going to a game on his own and standing up on his own singing sisu out while everybody looks at him. Agree with his views or not, it's slightly different to somebody on here posting sisu out over and over no?

You mean you respect his balls in following his conviction?

Can't argue with that.
 

letsallsingtogether

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A bloke going to a game on his own and standing up on his own singing sisu out while everybody looks at him. Agree with his views or not, it's slightly different to somebody on here posting sisu out over and over no?

Or Posting about the wasps on every thread.;)
 

Nick

Administrator
You mean you respect his balls in following his conviction?

Can't argue with that.
Just respect him full stop for it, whether I agree with his views or not. He said what he thought, didn't bother anybody else, wasn't offensive, wasn't swearing, wasn't making long statements, wasn't abusing others for not joining in. He wasn't trying to cause trouble. It's totally different to somebody coming on here posting sisu out over and over.

My only point was that it was in the family zone where it was never going to get going and the other bloke who had a go at the woman steward that wasn't him.
 

dongonzalos

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Just respect him full stop for it, whether I agree with his views or not. He said what he thought, didn't bother anybody else, wasn't offensive, wasn't swearing, wasn't making long statements, wasn't abusing others for not joining in. It's totally different to somebody coming on here posting sisu out over and over.

My only point was that it was in the family zone where it was never going to get going and the other bloke who had a go at the woman steward that wasn't him.

I never said over and over.
Just one bloke one thread very simple SISU Out.
Nothing else pretty much exactly what that bloke did.
However here not in the stands.
I don't see the difference other than that bloke had the balls to do it in front of people and not from the safety of a keyboard. Other than that I would guess the bloke in here should get a 'fair play' from you as well
 
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letsallsingtogether

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Just respect him full stop for it, whether I agree with his views or not. He said what he thought, didn't bother anybody else, wasn't offensive, wasn't swearing, wasn't making long statements, wasn't abusing others for not joining in. It's totally different to somebody coming on here posting sisu out over and over.

My only point was that it was in the family zone where it was never going to get going and the other bloke who had a go at the woman steward that wasn't him.

TBF he was on the Hill every week lives in Northampton and had another very famous banner that annoyed a few on here.
 

Nick

Administrator
I never said over and over.
Just one bloke one thread very simple SISU Out.
Nothing else pretty much exactly what that bloke did.
However here not in the stands.
I don't see the difference other than that bloke had the balls to do it in front if people and not from the safer if a keyboard. Other than that I would guess the bloke in here should get a 'fair play' from you as well

It's a totally different situation isn't it?
 

dongonzalos

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It's a totally different situation isn't it?

One person chants others have to listen ' like it or not'
One person posts others get to read the thread title like it or not.

Only difference for me is the balls to do it in front of people and not behind a keyboard. Which is a big difference to be fair. The message...... Identical.
 

Ian1779

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So you agree with Skybluefred then I know I do......
So what if they are face less look at the shit the likes of Michael or the trust or any one else gets on here.

When they do put out their names out there they are then accused of being attension seekers or just wanting their faces in the Media...


Can't win really some will always find some thing to moan about.

Always say shit like what is the point or answer this or that.....

I for one will also watch from the sidelines for a change.

Look at takeover at other clubs... all done behind closed doors in a lot of cases.. first that was heard was often once deal was signed. However it always seems to be at this club someone looking for a bit of publicity, giving it all the talk and then they deliver nothing.

If you put yourself out there publicly, and you don't have the goods to back it up, or the nous to think about the kind of questions you would be challenged with then you deserve the criticism you get.

it's not about people moaning for the sake of it.. it's about the fact that legitimate questions fail to be answered. Very much like SISU's failings.

So you are asking us to back this protest - which is more of the same in essence.
 

chiefdave

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Look at takeover at other clubs... all done behind closed doors in a lot of cases.. first that was heard was often once deal was signed. However it always seems to be at this club someone looking for a bit of publicity, giving it all the talk and then they deliver nothing.

That's would be my preferance, of course that doesn't give any oppertunity to scruitinse the new owners before they come in but it's not like we get any say anyway.

The problem we have here is we are being told we should protest to force SISU out as there are 3 consortiums waiting in the wings but nobody knows anything about them. Who are they, have they spoken to SISU, have they put in a bid? For all we know one is Joe and Hoff, one is PK4 and one is Dhinsa. That would be a completely different situtation to if it was, to pick random names, Richard Branson, Bill Gates and our old favourite Vince McMahon.
 

Nick

Administrator
That's would be my preferance, of course that doesn't give any oppertunity to scruitinse the new owners before they come in but it's not like we get any say anyway.

The problem we have here is we are being told we should protest to force SISU out as there are 3 consortiums waiting in the wings but nobody knows anything about them. Who are they, have they spoken to SISU, have they put in a bid? For all we know one is Joe and Hoff, one is PK4 and one is Dhinsa. That would be a completely different situtation to if it was, to pick random names, Richard Branson, Bill Gates and our old favourite Vince McMahon.

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I'm behind that!
 

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