dongonzalos
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Did I misread it or did they not say SISU are going nowhere so despite knowing of at least three other consortiums interested. The protest is just about their treatment of the fans?
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Did I misread it or did they not say SISU are going nowhere so despite knowing of at least three other consortiums interested. The protest is just about their treatment of the fans?
Nick
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Yeah theres no end game its just a get together to sing SISU related songs
dongonzalos
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Yet we just seem completely focused on these consortiums. Who it has been stated are not interested in buying from SISU, just picking up the pieces if SISU walk away. SISU say they are saying so I don't have a problem with protesting about them telling absolutely nothing about the new stadium. Picking fans to go on the board that it seems most fans would not have chosen. Failing to really explain how the new stadium will be financed and how it actually will lead to SISU recouping their investment and moving on.
Why have they got got a partnership going with Wasps for the next 5 years on club shop marketing sponsorship physios etc.....
We seem completely focused in the consortiums that are not bidding as the club is not selling it walking away.
Nick
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Have they? Have you got a link?
I have asked about the Consortiums because we need to know the options of who will take over don't we? As they said though that's not important apparently, just showing SISU they aren't happy is the priority.
Why would something be backed against SISU when they are behaving the same with the same cloak and dagger, misleading bullshit type stuff?
dongonzalos
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That's the point they have said they are protesting to get SISU to treat the fans better.
They said SISU are going nowhere.
chiefdave
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If it's just a moan at SISU being crap then why mention there's consortiums waiting in the wings to buy us. Just confuses the message.
Nick
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Wheres it been said about sharing stuff with Wasps?
Why are they treating fans the same by misleading them, staying hidden and firing out random bullshit that sounds good at the time? Why not just be straight with the fans (like they want SISU to be)? If the aim is to just get them to treat fans better why is the slogan #GO?
Could it be a clever PR trick from SISU to get bums on seats against Swindon
Why are they treating fans the same by misleading them, staying hidden and firing out random bullshit that sounds good at the time? Why not just be straight with the fans (like they want SISU to be)? If the aim is to just get them to treat fans better why is the slogan #GO?
Could it be a clever PR trick from SISU to get bums on seats against Swindon
Nick
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And use #GO as a slogan....
Ian1779
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Gosford Green
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The main issue is their (SISU) blatant bullshit. As per the statement, contact was made to all local planning authorities under the freedom of information act and they all have no record of any approach for any development of this this new stadium. A new ground or ideally new owners are the 2 most important matters to the club. If we have new owners something positive regarding a long term solution at the Ricoh is possible but under SISU and their US style negotiation by litigation this is never going to happen. Some people are happy supporting the team where ever they might play home games but many are not prepared to support the team if based outside the City, the year in Northampton was proof of that.
There is no problem with people just wanting to get behind the team against Swindon and keeping out of the protest, no ones going to take their name.
The club currently is in a dark place, my personal view is SISU are in their end game and are looking to get out, if getting out means liquidation then we will be in an even darker, shiter and lower hole, seven leagues lower hole maybe. What I hear is they are impossible to deal with, so any new owner who wishes to purchase the club as it is now has a thankless task.
There is no problem with people just wanting to get behind the team against Swindon and keeping out of the protest, no ones going to take their name.
The club currently is in a dark place, my personal view is SISU are in their end game and are looking to get out, if getting out means liquidation then we will be in an even darker, shiter and lower hole, seven leagues lower hole maybe. What I hear is they are impossible to deal with, so any new owner who wishes to purchase the club as it is now has a thankless task.
Nick
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If that is the issue, why is the sisuout protest group firing out bullshit to fans about it being a fact about consortiums and scare mongering about liquidation etc? You may well have the opinion but it is being thrown about like it is fact.
Maybe you should change the social media passwords.
Gosford Green
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I have nothing to do with the SISU OUT group apart from offering them my 100% support.
Liquidation is my personal view / concern. SISU have constantly stated the club is not for sale, it appears the club is being run down in every aspect from the club shop to the sale of players and replacing them with short term sub standard loan players and the Golden Goose has flown away (Ricoh).
Where do you see them going with the football club ?
Liquidation is my personal view / concern. SISU have constantly stated the club is not for sale, it appears the club is being run down in every aspect from the club shop to the sale of players and replacing them with short term sub standard loan players and the Golden Goose has flown away (Ricoh).
Where do you see them going with the football club ?
Gosford Green
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And thanks for confirming there is no consortium (s) waiting with an offer.
So either you are a SISU insider or you to are spouting random bullshit.
So either you are a SISU insider or you to are spouting random bullshit.
Nick
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I suggest as you know who they are you the pass the message on then
People will have opinions, they shouldn't be passed off as fact to get an agenda across though should they? SISU have done plenty wrong, just stick to the simple stuff rather than speculation, exaggerations and things that sound good. The whole thing is exactly as SISU do, including to refuse to answer fans questions. Which is what everybody is so angry about in the first place isn't it? Bullshit, spin, refusing to answer questions and cloak and daggers?
It is quite clear it is just an aimless SISU out shout type thing isn't it?
Nick
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Where have I said that? I am only going off what your pals are saying on social media fella. They have gone from it to being fact, to just a rumour they heard. I am the one saying to get these consortiums out in the open. I have been posting actual quotes....
The old SISU insider thing is always good though, it diverts attention doesn't it? Some people will probably believe it as well won't they. If you say it enough to the other extremists it might come true. I know, you could get them to use it in the sisu out protest propaganda too?
I am just a normal fan, I just don't believe everything somebody else says just because they put SISU out on the end.
Gosford Green
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Out in the open like Joy Seppala.
Nick
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You prove my point exactly! Acting in the same way as SISU and protesting about it but using the old "but they do it" line.
For god sake, if you are protesting about SISU bullshitting, spinning stuff, not answering questions and being hidden away. Don't do EXACTLY the same as them, isn't that obvious?
Surely spending 18 hours a day doing this protest stuff and meeting loads of fans and fans groups they would have realised that? Or it is that people want to just blindly hate rather than actually take a step back and think about things?
Gosford Green
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Please remember that the people behind SISU OUT are committed CCFC fans.
Their concern is the survival and prosper of Coventry City. The other side in this is SISU, their concern is for investors in an offshore hedgefund.
Their concern is the survival and prosper of Coventry City. The other side in this is SISU, their concern is for investors in an offshore hedgefund.
Gosford Green
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I await you `step back and think about things` option.
Gosford Green
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I await you `step back and think about things` option.
Ian1779
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Seems to me their concern is how they get their little bit of power.
Nick
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I have never said they aren't city fans. I am not too sure what that has to do with anything that we were just talking about?
That doesn't really answer any of the questions asked or points raised it is just a copy and paste line of propaganda that has probably been tweeted every so often to get the people going and the hate fired up.
Nick
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So what was wrong with that post then? Am I not thinking about things because I don't fall for the propaganda type shit you keep reeling out? I have just gave you the first reason why to step back and think about things, it is common sense isn't it?
Christ, if you are going to play the "know you are say you are" line then you may as well give up hadn't you? I bet SISU are shitting themselves.
I await your sisu insider, not caring about ccfc or equally as stupid reply.
All I am saying is think about things before doing / saying them.
chiefdave
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You are most likley correct but given their annonimity how can we be sure. Doesn't really give much credibility to their cause by staying anonymous.
I'm still not really sure what the aim is here. Is it just moan at SISU being crap owners or is there an actual desired outcome?
Gosford Green
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Personally I think the admin on the FB group should be visible as I am against being faceless, thats why I do not come on here very often. There is only so much anonymous defending of the indefensible that I can take.
Its very relevant to the subject. This forum was always going to be hard work for the SISU OUT campaign, feel free to all go on social media and raise any concern directly with the group, anonymous or otherwise.
Nick
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Why was this forum going to be hard work? Who is defending the indefensible? Ahh the old thing about internet forums being anonymous so not liking them as well, while being on here going on and on about an anonymous protest. Absolute genius. The best thing is you can't see the irony of some of these things.
Does that translate to people on here actually thinking about things rather than just blindly following any old shit thrown at them?
I tried to discuss it on Twitter earlier on, didn't get very far.
When asked about these consortiums etc:
It pretty much summed it up for me about what this was about.
Why not be diplomatic and explain things to people rather than throw the SISU insider line out when somebody doesn't agree with something?
Original! Can people really not see the irony in some of this shit? Honestly?
Does that translate to people on here actually thinking about things rather than just blindly following any old shit thrown at them?
I tried to discuss it on Twitter earlier on, didn't get very far.
When asked about these consortiums etc:
It pretty much summed it up for me about what this was about.
Why not be diplomatic and explain things to people rather than throw the SISU insider line out when somebody doesn't agree with something?
Original! Can people really not see the irony in some of this shit? Honestly?
dongonzalos
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I agree but it was followed by the line but we also know SISU are going nowhere and that the protest is about the treatment of the fans.
chiefdave
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If it's about treatment of fans there should be a desired outcome, they should be able to say this is what we want to happen. Lets say SISU say to them lets have a meeting and discuss your issues, what are they going to ask SISU to change?
Nick
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So if it's just about the treatment why is slogan go?
dongonzalos
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I would need to read their press release again, I am guessing they from what I recalled before. We're they not looking for more information about the clubs future plans, the new stadium etc...
I assume they will be looking for assurances regarding all the bad things that have happened in the past and that the club understands they personally have caused these things for the fans and what they personally could have done to make it better for the fans.
dongonzalos
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Is it? I don't get that bit when they say they know SISU are going nowhere.
I think they accept that SISU will not leave without a suitable offer from a interested party, but are trying to force SISU to stop lying to the fanbase on a whole and open clear communication to all in relation to the bullshit plan they have for the next x amount of years / fantasy stadium ideas etc etc.
Nick
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But surely you can see that while the protest group aren't open, bullshit the fanbase about consortiums being there as a fact and not answering any genuine questions they are just as bad as SISU in that aspect?
Maybe Nick it is because they have been bullshitted too or are using past tense comments from the Sky Blue Gods in relation to interested parties hence cannot offer a constructive answer to any questions.
However if their was interested parties, I suspect they would not have the capital to challenge SISU for the club whilst it is in their possession and would maybe open dialogue if the club was to suffer by going into Admin / Liquidation.
Nick
Administrator
The point I am trying to make though is that there is no need for the propaganda, the theories, the spinning their opinions as fact to get people onside. SISU have done enough wrong for god sake, just stick to the facts, play it simple.
Don't try and blag about Consortiums being there waiting, tell people they can either back them or watch CCFC being liquidated... There is no need for it is there?
If you are demanding people be more open and stuff, acting the same isn't a good start is it? It is like turning up to a protest about forcing Nike Air Max to be banned, wearing a pair of Nike Air Max? It should be setting the standard themselves of what they expect from the club.