Who Still Supports SISU? (1 Viewer)

torchomatic

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That's not success though is it. The last successes for CCFC were 1967 and 1987.

So was SP for a period of time equal too MR's time with us. Would MR still be the mesoah if he'd been here as long as SP?
 
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dongonzalos

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Apart from Jimmy Hill and Sillet/Curtis, how many manager have succeeded at the club full stop?



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I would say there was a period of time when GS also succeeded.
 

torchomatic

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Still don't think that is a success as he was making us perform which is what we should be doing. I guess you could argue our least real success was Micky Adams who "succeeded" in helping us finish 8th in the Championship.

I guess in the current climate you may actually have to take that as a success story!!

When you think through though that is not a great place to be if that is our only success under SISU?
 

Nick

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I'd hazard a guess he went to the mighty Huddersfield because of SISU.

Or because of getting paid 3 or 4 times more..

What about the parting shot at the council?

Let's ignore that though, like we ignore your comments about "locals" at Sixfields now the in thing is franchised teams.

No point using facts or things that happen, let's just make shit up to suit.
 

italiahorse

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Apart from Jimmy Hill and Sillet/Curtis, how many manager have succeeded at the club full stop?



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Success to me was just being in the PL.
So in that respect all of them except Strachan.
 

italiahorse

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Or because of getting paid 3 or 4 times more..

What about the parting shot at the council?

Let's ignore that though, like we ignore your comments about "locals" at Sixfields now the in thing is franchised teams.

No point using facts or things that happen, let's just make shit up to suit.

So Sisu didn't pay enough ?
Remind me of the parting shot and the locals at Sixfields comments please. I've long forgot.
Never bothered me about franchised teams. Are you saying that CCFC was franchised to Northampton.
Just a reminder. I am a long time CCFC season ticket holder and have attended 2 Wasps games.
 

Nick

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So Sisu didn't pay enough ?
Remind me of the parting shot and the locals at Sixfields comments please. I've long forgot.
Never bothered me about franchised teams. Are you saying that CCFC was franchised to Northampton.
Just a reminder. I am a long time CCFC season ticket holder and have attended 2 Wasps games.

You can have a look back through your old posts. I just had a dig for the other thread to see who it was who actually had an issue / digs / remarks about "locals" at Sixfields. ;)

Have a look at what Robins said when he left about the council too?

Strange that you don't seem to know much about that.
 

Senior Vick from Alicante

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Or because of getting paid 3 or 4 times more..

What about the parting shot at the council?

Let's ignore that though, like we ignore your comments about "locals" at Sixfields now the in thing is franchised teams.

No point using facts or things that happen, let's just make shit up to suit.

Sorry Nick, you don't think the fact that he got wind of the plan that we were relocating to Northampton to break the nasty lease agreement with the horrible people at the council had any thing to do with it?
 

Nick

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italiahorse

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You can have a look back through your old posts. I just had a dig for the other thread to see who it was who actually had an issue / digs / remarks about "locals" at Sixfields. ;)

Have a look at what Robins said when he left about the council too?

Strange that you don't seem to know much about that.

I'm punch drunk.
 

torchomatic

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SkyBlueSid

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Protesting requires some passion, and a belief that you can at the very least, in a small way, influence future decision making.
When it's clear that you are being totally ignored, it's hard to justify the time and money you spend, especially if you have a family competing for said time and money.
Instead of protesting, people drift away from the club and attendances fall.

This is exactly the point. We did see a huge protest last night. Not with people waving bits of paper though. The protest was the fact that the ground was almost empty. The 7000 includes all ST holders but there were plenty in Block 19 who didn't bother last night.

A combination of no ambition and a complete lack of effort have resulted in a team that simply is not worth watching any more. Going last night was a real chore and I have no intention of renewing again. It's going to be difficult motivating ourselves to go to the matches we have already paid for, so why would people pay on the day to watch this rubbish?
 

Houdi

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Just think you are totally missing the point.

This has never been about whether you support SISU or not... it should be about supporting the team. The owners are secondary. But too many people have lost sight of that, and then irrationally blame the owners for everything.

For example:

Wasps owning the Ricoh - SISU, CCC, ACL & Higgs all to blame

Telling fans there is a new stadium coming but releasing fuck all in terms of detail - SISU's fault entirely

Last night's shower of shit - Pressley and the players.

If people want to be NOPM that's fine. If you think it will help the team or force the owners out then you are stupid.

Can't disagree with much of that except the last part.
The most impressive or if you like depressing part about last night's much vaunted protest was not the few posters,flags etc but the tens of thousands of empty seats. Those empty seats spoke a thousand words.. I'm not sure the missing thousands even think of it as NOPM anymore, they are simply totally disillusioned with every thing about the club and without any real hope for the future.
Yes SISU have driven down costs but they seem to be driving down revenue at a faster rate. How many fans who bought season tickets now regret it, how many will renew next year. Going to watch CCFC is simply no longer an enjoyable experience for even the diehards, how long will people pay for something that is no longer enjoyable.
Most people believe rightly or wrongly that the pitiful crowds at Northampton forced a change in direction from SISU. Whether it is right or wrong ,fair or unfair most fans seemingly believe that SISU are toxic for the club, and nothing but nothing will change their viewpoint. Without fans the club cannot survive indefinitely and SISU can't force fans to attend. So yes eventually 'fan power' will win, even if that may mean SISU resort to the nuclear option.
 

stupot07

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Success to me was just being in the PL.
So in that respect all of them except Strachan.

Which then goes against the grain of people moaning about the lack of success for 45+ years because 'success' is top 6? Which is it no 'success' for 45 years or no 'success' for 12 years?



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Nick

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Which then goes against the grain of people moaning about the lack of success for 45+ years because 'success' is top 6? Which is it no 'success' for 45 years or no 'success' for 12 years?



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Whichever means they can have a go at SISU that day?
 

Otis

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I would say Gordon Milne was quite successful. He was manager for nigh on 9 years and we very rarely were in trouble. He did well keeping us in the top league for so long..

Under Milne we finished;

19th, 16th, 14th, 14th, 19th, 7th, 10th, 15th.
 

pusbccfc

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This is exactly the point. We did see a huge protest last night. Not with people waving bits of paper though. The protest was the fact that the ground was almost empty. The 7000 includes all ST holders but there were plenty in Block 19 who didn't bother last night.

A combination of no ambition and a complete lack of effort have resulted in a team that simply is not worth watching any more. Going last night was a real chore and I have no intention of renewing again. It's going to be difficult motivating ourselves to go to the matches we have already paid for, so why would people pay on the day to watch this rubbish?

It does make you wonder what the attendance would be in a few weeks if SISU were to walk tomorrow.

I'd like to know how many are actually staying away due to them and how many are staying away because the football is boring.
 

Ashdown

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I would say Gordon Milne was quite successful. He was manager for nigh on 9 years and we very rarely were in trouble. He did well keeping us in the top league for so long..

Under Milne we finished;

19th, 16th, 14th, 14th, 19th, 7th, 10th, 15th.

Yes good days as well !
 

torchomatic

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Manager when I first starting going every week. Good times, though not necessarily successful ones.

I would say Gordon Milne was quite successful. He was manager for nigh on 9 years and we very rarely were in trouble. He did well keeping us in the top league for so long..

Under Milne we finished;

19th, 16th, 14th, 14th, 19th, 7th, 10th, 15th.
 

SkyBlueSid

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It does make you wonder what the attendance would be in a few weeks if SISU were to walk tomorrow.

I'd like to know how many are actually staying away due to them and how many are staying away because the football is boring.

Ultimately people go to games to see two things. A winning team and entertaining football - in that order. A few may be staying away because of principles regarding the owners, but I believe most are staying away because it's rubbish. Currently the team is struggling, but there is nothing remotely resembling entertainment in what we are seeing. When we were struggling in the Premier League we usually survived because of effort and commitment which the fans could accept. City fans never get on the back of a grafter.
 

Covstu

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Ultimately people go to games to see two things. A winning team and entertaining football - in that order. A few may be staying away because of principles regarding the owners, but I believe most are staying away because it's rubbish. Currently the team is struggling, but there is nothing remotely resembling entertainment in what we are seeing. When we were struggling in the Premier League we usually survived because of effort and commitment which the fans could accept. City fans never get on the back of a grafter.

i agree but i think it would be some fecking party the game after SISU left, you would struggle to get a ticket!

Sadly isnt going to happen
 

Nick

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Might put that on Twitter . See if it can actually become "Fact" by the weekend :)

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Fox news fact, don't joke though I said I was tim fisher and people believed it!
 

pusbccfc

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i agree but i think it would be some fecking party the game after SISU left, you would struggle to get a ticket!

Sadly isnt going to happen

I think it would be one of them games where the part timers come out for a party, with the crowd dropping to 9,000 the week later...
 

Ashdown

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Manager when I first starting going every week. Good times, though not necessarily successful ones.

Me too, some great players, playing in our own ground in front of good crowds in the top league in English football...........I'd say it was quite successful !
 

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