Does it matter what happens to CCFC? (10 Viewers)

Sky Blue Pete

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Does anyone care?

It seems even us fans don't really or is it just that we have no idea how to get our club back?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
The fans are apathetic and only turn out for big games. Look at pompey's support. Our support is conditional upon success- if sone how we got promoted with sisu in charge suddenly all the nopm would crawl baxx claiming they'd never been away.
 

afan4life

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The fans are apathetic and only turn out for big games. Look at pompey's support. Our support is conditional upon success- if sone how we got promoted with sisu in charge suddenly all the nopm would crawl baxx claiming they'd never been away.

:slap:badly written garbage

ps ...success with Sisu is not going to happen
 

Nick

Administrator
Why is it always the people who don't care and don't go who are the most outraged if a player gets sold etc etc?
 

Kingokings204

Well-Known Member
I will care as long as ccfc exists but yes it doesn't matter as much these last 2-4 years as what's happened to our club is a disgrace and I think this shows when people question whether to renew ST on the other thread.

People have either broken habits, boring football, we are losing, we are crap. Crap owners, clueless manager. Average at best footballers. League 1 football is poor full stop.

All these reasons mean many won't go back. Therefore less people care as much.

To reiterate, I will always care and when we win its great and when we lose it hurts all weekend but I fully understand and get why gates are dwindling and people care less.

P.s would 17k turn up every game in league 2 with same bad foreign owners and being taken to Bournemouth for a year and a bit with a clueless manager? We all know the answer so it's a poor comparison.
 

Otis

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Coventry City have been such a huge part of my life as far back as I can possibly remember.

I am now caring a little less and it's like a drip feed with the passion slowly being drained away. It has been year upon year of depression, failure and gloom and that takes its toll on everyone eventually.

It's not even like we are playing quick, exciting football and losing is it. Everything seems to be with a whimper.

At the moment it seems like we have terrible owners, a poor manager and a distinctly average at best, football team. We seem to be just floating around like flotsam and jetsam.
 

italiahorse

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Why is it always the people who don't care and don't go who are the most outraged if a player gets sold etc etc?

I don't know who goes and who doesn't.
I assumed everybody on here was a life long season ticket holder.
Perhaps we need to score fans and then we can weight their opinion.

May I suggest. ;)

Season ticket holders get a point for every year they have had a season ticket.
Current season ticket holders .. 10 Points.
A point for every away game this season.
Attending Wasps matches .. -2 points per game
Attending Wasps Corporate events .. -10 points
A CCC Councillor .. -10
Sisu board member .. -20
Attended Sixfields and enjoyed it .. -5


Italiahorse (16) .. This means my weighting is 16 and will out weigh any comments below this score.
 

Kingokings204

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Yes I agree Nick but what I mean is that's the reason they don't go as for not caring they just like a moan and it reiterates why they don't go so in their mind they are right. If you get me?
 

Nick

Administrator
Yes I agree Nick but what I mean is that's the reason they don't go as for not caring they just like a moan and it reiterates why they don't go so in their mind they are right. If you get me?

Yeah I see what you mean. I just think they clearly do care.

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SkyblueBazza

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Why is it always the people who don't care and don't go who are the most outraged if a player gets sold etc etc?
Because that is precisely the kind of action that over the yrs that has left them not caring &/or not going. It then fuels their frustration & complells them to express their outrage...I think you knew that though

PUSB
 

afan4life

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can you handle the truth?

Why is it always the people who don't care and don't go who are the most outraged if a player gets sold etc etc?

don't care / don't go.... two totally different things

I would argue many (not all) that go and consistently make excuses' for Sisu are doing more harm than good....paying £20ish per ticket against Swindon to hold up a red card saying 'Sisu out' just lines their pockets ...which they reinvest:sarcasm:
no Cov fans in the ground against Swindon and they cut and run:wave:
 

Nick

Administrator
Because that is precisely the kind of action that over the yrs that has left them not caring &/or not going. It then fuels their frustration & complells them to express their outrage...I think you knew that though

PUSB

So why is somebody outraged if they don't care?
 

skybluebeduff

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So why is somebody outraged if they don't care?

Why do people care about other peoples cares?

here have a care bear:
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
:slap:badly written garbage

ps ...success with Sisu is not going to happen

Sorry, we have some of the best fans in the country. If only the owners matched the passion of our fans then we'd be pushing for the champions league. We really are some the best fans ever.
 

ollyservetta

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for me it boils down to never agreeing or liking being at the ricoh ,never wanted to be anywer other than HR. basicly got told then to put up and shut up so to be honest not that botherd now.CCFC is my club always has been and will be as long as it exists ,if we wer at HR and this was going on id be in up roar prepared to do bird ,.Now id rather our suffering end ,
 

skybluetony176

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The fans are apathetic and only turn out for big games. Look at pompey's support. Our support is conditional upon success- if sone how we got promoted with sisu in charge suddenly all the nopm would crawl baxx claiming they'd never been away.

We're no different to any other fan base in that respect and our fan base has the same mentality as it did when we were in the premiership. It was happening then too.

The big difference with Pompey fans is that they are to a large degree a master of their own destiny, the same goes with AFC Wimbledon hence their quick progression through nonleague to league. That's a luxury we don't even have a wiff of.

It makes me laugh when people suggest that if we turned out in record numbers for the league our fortunes would improve. Would it bollocks. I think the majority of what was our fan base cottoned onto this some time ago regardless of if they were season ticket holders, went to half a dozen matches or so a year or jumped on ship for the occasional big game. Detachment is easier than watching a slow death for some and that's a human condition, it's not exclusive to CCFC fans.
 

rupert_bear

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Fans vote usually the only way they can...with their feet. There is and always has been potential for decent turn outs here but recent events, performances and owner policy has diluted that. But call them bandwagoners all you want the gate v Crewe in that jpt semi a couple of years ago demonstrated that potential.
 

Seaside-Skyblue

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I care a lot despite seeing nothing but decline in my years. However I think the part I find so difficult is not knowing whether we have a future, how long our club will survive, having no plan going forward. It's just not inspiring.
 

Ashdown

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The absolute key to all of this gloom and lack of optimism is the current owners. We are not being run as a club with a future at all, we are being run as a club on life support. Everything top down is unprofessional and short term. The ticketing arrangements, merchandise selection, communication and marketing, the transparency for true ambition has all gone. These outsiders couldn't care less, they have cut costs down to the absolute bone now and are just using the club as a vehicle for their shady inter company money movements, management charges, debt interest collections and future litigation plans.
Team wise we have a platform to bring a few kids through to sell on to help fund the running costs at the first opportunity, a manager who preaches from the SISU hymn sheet of bullshit and feigned positivity. The vultures from Mayfair are relying heavily on historical loyalty and many Dads and Lads of all ages to keep turning up regardless but even that will dwindle as the helplessness of it all and sheer lack of progression and ambition becomes obvious.
First stop is the next court case and next is the season ticket renewal cash, if both these events are failures for SISU then we might see some true intentions. In the meantime how can anyone point fingers at fans reluctant to part with £22 a match plus other costs to attend ??
 

skybluetony176

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The absolute key to all of this gloom and lack of optimism is the current owners. We are not being run as a club with a future at all, we are being run as a club on life support. Everything top down is unprofessional and short term. The ticketing arrangements, merchandise selection, communication and marketing, the transparency for true ambition has all gone. These outsiders couldn't care less, they have cut costs down to the absolute bone now and are just using the club as a vehicle for their shady inter company money movements, management charges, debt interest collections and future litigation plans.
Team wise we have a platform to bring a few kids through to sell on to help fund the running costs at the first opportunity, a manager who preaches from the SISU hymn sheet of bullshit and feigned positivity. The vultures from Mayfair are relying heavily on historical loyalty and many Dads and Lads of all ages to keep turning up regardless but even that will dwindle as the helplessness of it all and sheer lack of progression and ambition becomes obvious.
First stop is the next court case and next is the season ticket renewal cash, if both these events are failures for SISU then we might see some true intentions. In the meantime how can anyone point fingers at fans reluctant to part with £22 a match plus other costs to attend ??


Because they don't have to point a finger at SISU. Call it defending by stealth if you like.
 

skybluetony176

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Have a look at the person who liked your post for starters ;)

Looking back at his initial post in this thread he said. He cares a little less each day (I know how you feel) not that he didn't care.

Exactly what I meant by self fulfilling prophecy.
 

Astute

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I used to get upset for at least a few hours if we lost a game. If it was a big game it could even have lasted a couple of days. But these days I have even smiled when we have let in an early goal and lost whilst playing shit. Years ago I wouldn't have seen it possible. But now reality has hit home. It is more about survival than going forward as things stand.
 

skybluejelly

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lets be honest here what have we got to cheer about.. apart from 87 not a single top 6 finish for 40 years .. no we shouldn't care what happens but we are basically down to the last 6000 that do .. the last 2 times we got relegated we all thought we might finally start winning regularly..but alas another false dawn.. until we finally start delivering on the pitch fewer and fewer wont care less... until we finally appear in a milk advert of our own in 30 years time
 

italiahorse

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for me it boils down to never agreeing or liking being at the ricoh ,never wanted to be anywer other than HR. basicly got told then to put up and shut up so to be honest not that botherd now.CCFC is my club always has been and will be as long as it exists ,if we wer at HR and this was going on id be in up roar prepared to do bird ,.Now id rather our suffering end ,

Even at HR we had bad times but looking back it was nothing to where we are now. We never really appreciated what we had.
HR was not suitable for long term survival in the PL.
At the time we were well established in the league, but like Swansea now, needed more capacity. The Ricoh would give us that need.
Relegation from the PL started this rot, coupled with poor management. I still don't understand how we cocked up the Gasworks, Tesco, Council land deal.

However once we left the PL having committed to the Ricoh a fast return was essential.
That never happened and IIRC the squad was trimmed and getting out the Championship was gone.
Incomes relating to having visibility in the PL also declined and the Ricoh business model was in turmoil.
That was the previous management.
 

Nick

Administrator
Looking back at his initial post in this thread he said. He cares a little less each day (I know how you feel) not that he didn't care.

Exactly what I meant by self fulfilling prophecy.

Have a look through the post history...
Read social media at people's comments and their past tweets also...
 

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