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If we're talking worsts then false hope, to me, is worse than a slow death.
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cloughie
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I'm saying nothing, you just carry on patting yourself on the back and acting like a hero
No i don't consider myself a hero or anything of the sort.
I just would not go, don't see that as patting myself on the back , i found it quite sad that after over 45 years of supporting it had to come to that
MichaelCCFC
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Hi NW - just realised I think it was maybe you not Chief I had a previous discussion with about this. Sorry if I'm labouring the point but if no one is saying sisu offer a positive future and instead sisu = slow death, that is a significant change which suggests thinking about things differently. Keeping this short because I fear it is repetition, the key point becomes fans as a catalyst for change rather than a neat linear model of new consortium with every i dotted and t crossed which is not necessarily addressing the realities of our situation.
skybluetony176
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If only AL hadn't lied, we'd sell out every game. Curse you AL and your cronies, you've killed our club while poor SISU are trying to rebuild it (shakes fist in anger).
The Lurker
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Out of interest who was it?
You are right about the first bit. Glad you finally admit it.
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skybluetony176
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You seriously believe we'd sell out if AL hadn't lied. You're living in a dream world.
You are right of course. Ann Lucas is a visionary with her plan to support Franchise Football. We just haven't embraced it yet.
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Sick Boy
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You're hilarious Tony.
TheOldFive
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Ah. So it was a rhetorical question then. Or no, to be more precise, a Socratic one.
How many owners I wonder, do in fact improve the fortunes of the Clubs in their custody? It's an interesting question. I think only the minority deliver improvement to their lot, and in almost every case it comes at a heavy cost. In the case of Sisu, they can always state (and I don't really know why they don't remind us of this more often) that when they took us on we were minutes from being wound up. They've spend a lot of money (foolishly) on maintaining our position for years not that far from where we were when they picked us up. They're not investing much now but hey, neither are the people of Coventry and certainly neither are the Council. Why should they do any more other than minimise their losses? And whether they do or not do we really care any more?
skybluetony176
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Yes thankyou SISU for saving us from administration, we really dodged a bullet there not to mention a possible 20point deduction because of administration followed by liquidation. Thew, high fives all round
Just to add. I bet Southampton are still kicking themselves that we nicked their knights on white horses. At least we're not in their position the poor b'stards.
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Houchens Head
Fairly well known member from Malvern
Nail on the head, Old Five!
You are right in that they saved us at the beginning. You are also right that they spent a lot of money on us and they did it foolishly. I can see the logic of battening down the hatches and weathering the storm from SISUs point of view, but that is us screwed and yes I do care, but that is it. I can't do anything and I don't see anyone else on the horizon.
TheOldFive
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Sort of proves the point. They've not improved is but neither have they worsened us all that much, just kept us in some zombified paralysed state of shiteness, with the very rare shining moments inbetween, and those more through fluke.
You, me, all of us. We only have so much energy in life, we have to discern what we should expend it upon. Getting worked up about what shoulda coulda woulda been is a waste. Use the effort to look forward to our new build ground and the adventure of roaring up the Leagues again, friends side by side, in the Coventry/Warwickshire/East Birmingham area cheering on our Sky Blues being led out by our England Captain James Maddison. There. That cheered you up didn't it?
MichaelCCFC
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Is it English Language exam day on here? We've had someone criticising spelling but then misplacing apostrophes and being inconsistent in the use of full stops. Now it's a muddle over rhetorical and Socratic questions. I'm tired so this post is probably error strewn itself. But to use plain words I was utterly fed up after Swindon and just wanted the merest straw in relation to sisu and the future, at which to grasp. So I asked a question. Not rhetorical. Not Socratic. Just a straight-forward question. To which, sadly, there has not been a single positive response so I remain straw-less and hope-less - so to speak.
TheOldFive
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Lighten up Michael. Count your blessings you don't have more important things to spend your time worrying about than a game and pastime. Some people endure real suffering with more grace and character than many moaning or perversely feeding their misery by "seeking answers" on here. Hope sometimes has to come from within. Dig deep, and I'm sure you will find some within yourself I'm sure.
MichaelCCFC
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Your line regarding sisu i.e. "they've not improved us but neither have they worsened us all that much" certainly made me smile.
skybluetony176
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Yes were still in the championship playing in front of crowds up to 20K. Negotiation by litigation has lost us chance of owning our own ground, we're playing in front of record low crowds (as pointed out in the thread title) and we're so close to the forth division it's painful. You're either a troll, delusional, a SISU apologist or a SISU employee. I can't even imagine the likes of grendull and his minions coming out with crap like that.
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skybluetony176
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Yes. Much better to be in an empty ground in a lower division where no one makes a sound. Thankyou again SISU, please don't invest any money in the team to take us out of the heavenly place we are currently in.
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If it snows tonight you will blame SISU.
italiahorse
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Really ?
I went to every game and can't remember that.
Selective thoughts I think?
I can remember every game at HR was quiet and everybody turned up in Reliant 3 wheelers
Really ?
I went to every game and can't remember that.
Selective thoughts I think?
I can remember every game at HR was quiet and everybody turned up in Reliant 3 wheelers
Im talking about Coventry City, not the Rugger.
skybluetony176
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No.
TheOldFive
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No Tony, I'm none of those things. (Mmm... Maybe a little bit delusional perhaps). I might have a wider range of experience that most that enables me to realise that some things need to be evaluated with a greater sense of proportion than many might be able to intellectually manage or afford, but I promise I do try and see all things for what they truly are. I might have sounded flippant in my remarks but that was in part a weak and apparently misfiring attempt at black humour. Within that I do hold onto the belief that being a financially busted Championship Club bobbing around with no credible hope of being able to break into the Premier League isn't that much different to where we are now. The real disparity in English Football is the ticking timebomb of the monstrous financial disparity between Premiership Club revenues and anyone else in any league. I'll grant you that The Property ownership situation at the Ricoh is different now, our chances of becoming owners of the ground have moved from Slim to None. (Unless of course in the long term Wasp's investment becomes an accursed financial millstone that brings them down like all others who have come across it). But, for a while at least, you can still go to games, support the team, face more disappointment than celebration, so pretty much no change there.
I hope that's enough of a reply for you to get a better understanding of my thoughts and opinions. Taking some time to properly understand a little more what people are about is always worthwhile I find, rather than making hasty assumptions and drawing incorrect conclusions.
skybluetony176
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You put it better to be fair (mainly because I dozed off during theoldfives ramblings, he started sounding too much like grendull when he started bigging himself up) but his OP is still a crock of shit and I stand by my analysis off it.
TheOldFive
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Quit snuggling up to Andrea pal you've no chance there.
Except that the general standard of football is appalling and we can't compete with small town teams like Fleetwood and Gillingham, what's next struggling to compete with Forest Green Rovers and Altrincham ?