les reid is a (7 Viewers)

[Moff]

And here we go with the self proclaimed intelligent person dishing out personal insults.

Does Led Reid get paid for reporting on CCC - Ccfc matters? Yes

Will his employer make more money if more people read it? Yes.

Will increased revenues for the observer allow them to pay their journalists more? Probably.

Where have I self proclaimed to be intelligent? (although I am)

You though are a dumb fuck. I wouldnt insult you if you werent being one, with your conspiracy crap. If you disgree with what I said so be it.

 

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[Moff]

Its you two that are suggesting that what actually happens is journalists work for free, newspapers don't try and make money, and businesses hope that no one will see their adverts.

Quote me where I said those words dick head.

 

[lordsummerisle]

It's perfect logic. You mentioned vested interests first in this thread ahead of anything else. So yes you brought it up first.
How is that not logical someone help me out here.

This place is full of fucking logic choppers, so not much chjance of any help coming anytime soon.

 

[lordsummerisle]

Where have I self proclaimed to be intelligent? (although I am)

You though are a dumb fuck. I wouldnt insult you if you werent being one, with your conspiracy crap. If you disgree with what I said so be it.

Conspiracy theories are all just made up rubbish to hide what's really happening.

 

[hill83]

How am I trying to promote a conspiracy? I'm talking about excepted facts of the world.

Its you two that are suggesting that what actually happens is journalists work for free, newspapers don't try and make money, and businesses hope that no one will see their adverts.

If that isn't a conspiracy theory I don't know what is.

I wasn't suggesting that at all. I was asking carefully planned questions to make you admit that you are discrediting him based on accusations rather than the content of his work. If you really think that I think he is working for free then you are slower than I thought.

 

[Nick]

It's perfect logic. You mentioned vested interests first in this thread ahead of anything else. So yes you brought it up first.
How is that not logical someone help me out here.

Don't worry about it, some posters on here are enough to make you double check your self. They fail to grasp the simplest of points or just choose to miss them completely.

"check your bad self"

 

[shmmeee]

Fuck me this thread is depressing.

Reid's journalism is shit because, aside for them spelling and grammar mistakes, he writes full of loaded language (always "Labour led council" never just "council", always "Ms Seppala" but not "Ms Lucas", putting ironic quote marks around spokesperson when the council gave a statement) and he doesn't actually back up his point, instead relying of supposition and handing over half the article to someone with an axe to grind.

I mean FFS if Dave Nellist is the best you've got you've hardly got a story.

It's terrible journalism on its own merits, never mind who he supports.

His attitude to anyone who questions him and the quickness to spread rumours about those he disagrees with also mark him out as a pretty disposable human being.

*awaits response ignoring all the points put forward and instead insisting its a conspiracy because he's not saying the right things*

 

[hill83]

Fuck me this thread is depressing.

Reid's journalism is shit because, aside for them spelling and grammar mistakes, he writes full of loaded language (always "Labour led council" never just "council", always "Ms Seppala" but not "Ms Lucas", putting ironic quote marks around spokesperson when the council gave a statement) and he doesn't actually back up his point, instead relying of supposition and handing over half the article to someone with an axe to grind.

I mean FFS if Dave Nellist is the best you've got you've hardly got a story.

It's terrible journalism on its own merits, never mind who he supports.

His attitude to anyone who questions him and the quickness to spread rumours about those he disagrees with also mark him out as a pretty disposable human being.

*awaits response ignoring all the points put forward and instead insisting its a conspiracy because he's not saying the right things*

Apart from the *awaits response* bollocks at the end I've got no problem with any of this.

 

[bigfatronssba]

So when he said there are people on here with a vested interest, he is correct because Simon is on here? So the outrage is for nothing?

Of course simon does. Hence his links to the telegraph website.

I'm not criticising Reid for having a vested interest, I am criticising him for bemoaning others for having a vested interest when he does himself.

 

[bigfatronssba]

Where have I self proclaimed to be intelligent? (although I am)

You though are a dumb fuck. I wouldnt insult you if you werent being one, with your conspiracy crap. If you disgree with what I said so be it.

Your a very rude man.

 

[Moff]

Fuck me this thread is depressing.

Reid's journalism is shit because, aside for them spelling and grammar mistakes, he writes full of loaded language (always "Labour led council" never just "council", always "Ms Seppala" but not "Ms Lucas", putting ironic quote marks around spokesperson when the council gave a statement) and he doesn't actually back up his point, instead relying of supposition and handing over half the article to someone with an axe to grind.

I mean FFS if Dave Nellist is the best you've got you've hardly got a story.

It's terrible journalism on its own merits, never mind who he supports.

His attitude to anyone who questions him and the quickness to spread rumours about those he disagrees with also mark him out as a pretty disposable human being.

*awaits response ignoring all the points put forward and instead insisting its a conspiracy because he's not saying the right things*

I keep an open mind on what he writes, but the points you make above certainly hold some validity.

Thanks for making reasoned arguement as opposed to the OP spouting shit about what team he supports.

 

[Moff]

Your a very rude man.

I take that as a compliment. Cheers :claping hands:

 

[bigfatronssba]

I wasn't suggesting that at all. I was asking carefully planned questions to make you admit that you are discrediting him based on accusations rather than the content of his work. If you really think that I think he is working for free then you are slower than I thought.

So you were wumming?

 

[hill83]

So you were wumming?

No. I wasn't trying to wind anyone up. I was just coaxing an admission out of you because I know you'd never do it off your own back.

 

[lewys33]

The thing that frustrates me the most lately is the fact you have to read Simon Gilbert's stories to hear "the council side" and Les Reid's stories to hear "the sisu side". There doesn't seem to be a middle ground at the moment. Les is a good journalist but his lack of professionalism and his twitter antics mean quite a few people, including myself, have no respect for him. He hasn't blocked me on twitter, but I have tried to question him a few times about things. Only ever got 1 response, but generally I am ignored.

Didn't someone do a test where they tweeted him questioning his journalism, and then an hour later tweeted him about how amazing he was? The first was ignored, the 2nd was re-tweeted. Embarrassing.

 

[wingy]

The thing that frustrates me the most lately is the fact you have to read Simon Gilbert's stories to hear "the council side" and Les Reid's stories to hear "the sisu side". There doesn't seem to be a middle ground at the moment. Les is a good journalist but his lack of professionalism and his twitter antics mean quite a few people, including myself, have no respect for him. He hasn't blocked me on twitter, but I have tried to question him a few times about things. Only ever got 1 response, but generally I am ignored.

Didn't someone do a test where they tweeted him questioning his journalism, and then an hour later tweeted him about how amazing he was? The first was ignored, the 2nd was re-tweeted. Embarrassing.

I have no axe to grind
He's a fair enough journalist comes at things a little one sided
But he can be wrong like most of us
Take his big opinion piece back in the day full of analysis but the conclusion was off
Saying the only way they would ever bring the team back would be as Stadium owners

 

[Noggin]

Fuck me this thread is depressing.

Reid's journalism is shit because, aside for them spelling and grammar mistakes, he writes full of loaded language (always "Labour led council" never just "council", always "Ms Seppala" but not "Ms Lucas", putting ironic quote marks around spokesperson when the council gave a statement) and he doesn't actually back up his point, instead relying of supposition and handing over half the article to someone with an axe to grind.

I mean FFS if Dave Nellist is the best you've got you've hardly got a story.

It's terrible journalism on its own merits, never mind who he supports.

His attitude to anyone who questions him and the quickness to spread rumours about those he disagrees with also mark him out as a pretty disposable human being.

*awaits response ignoring all the points put forward and instead insisting its a conspiracy because he's not saying the right things*

That's my view too, I couldn't give a damn about who he supports, he's just a poor journalist and poor excuse for a man.

 

[torchomatic]

Foulger supported Leicester, didn't he?

Some might well have been city fans. But they are still journalists for a paper who's main aim is to sell/distribute more papers.

Or do you think they all did the job out of the goodness of their heart? Lol.

 

[Moff]

Foulger supported Leicester, didn't he?

Cheers Torch, I couldnt remember that.

Of course when he wrote his last piece on our FA Cup win, he elaborated the story to say we won 20-0 in order to sell more papers, and please the advertisers.

 

[bigfatronssba]

Foulger supported Leicester, didn't he?

So what if he did?

 

[torchomatic]

I was simply responding to a post from Moff earlier, that's all. Don't panic yourself.

So what if he did?

 

[world_in_motion]

The OP is clearly a WUM, I rarely post on here but can't sit back and let utter bollocks be spread. I've known Les for years, and there is no question he's a Sky Blues fan. I sat with him as a season ticket holder at the Ricoh, and before that at Highfield Road, and have also been to many away games with him. In the early 80's he did have a soft spot for Everton, so what that was 30 years ago, I used to like West Ham until I saw the light in 1977!

 

[Hugh Jarse]

everton fan!

No, no, no Mong; what school did you go to?

Les Reid is an Everton fan, ffs, standards are getting worse.

 

[SimonGilbert]

The thing that frustrates me the most lately is the fact you have to read Simon Gilbert's stories to hear "the council side" and Les Reid's stories to hear "the sisu side". There doesn't seem to be a middle ground at the moment.

That doesn't really stand up to scrutiny at the Cov Tel end in my opinion. It has become a narrative which only serves to mask the less balanced style of others.

Remember, we broke the story about ACL's losses and questioned Ann Lucas on her "profitable" claims a couple of days before anyone else caught up.

In my view, all parties have come in for criticism through Coventry Telegraph articles at various points. But, more tellingly, all sides continue to come in for criticism when appropriate. The only agenda we have is the news agenda.

 

[jimmyhill]

The title of this thread should be 'Les Reid is an' which if spell checked could be far more interesting

 

[skybluedan]

a cod piece

 

[dongonzalos]

There would be very few Coventry fans out there who would encourage SISU to negotiate in the fashion they chose to.
Then be outraged when once the plan fails the council decide to do business elsewhere.

 

[Grendel]

There would be very few Coventry fans out there who would encourage SISU to negotiate in the fashion they chose to.
Then be outraged when once the plan fails the council decide to do business elsewhere.

Well clearly there is.

 

[dongonzalos]

Well clearly there is.

Yep like I say very few and it seems if this is correct and Les is an Everton fan then there are even fewer of you.

 

[Skyblueweeman]

Have Dong and Grendel almost agreed on something?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

It just highlights that his "vested interest" is in selling newspapers and advancing his career.

You appear to be describing newsagents and journalists alike.

 

[cloughie]

Have Dong and Grendel almost agreed on something?

Doubt it,

Grendel can hardly agree with himself

 

[letsallsingtogether]

I have no axe to grind
He's a fair enough journalist comes at things a little one sided
But he can be wrong like most of us
Take his big opinion piece back in the day full of analysis but the conclusion was off
Saying the only way they would ever bring the team back would be as Stadium owners

Then again some on here will deny that he ever wrote that, it serves their argument I personally don't give a shit about him ether.

 

[bigfatronssba]

You appear to be describing newsagents and journalists alike.

Yes I agree.

 

[lewys33]

That doesn't really stand up to scrutiny at the Cov Tel end in my opinion. It has become a narrative which only serves to mask the less balanced style of others.

Remember, we broke the story about ACL's losses and questioned Ann Lucas on her "profitable" claims a couple of days before anyone else caught up.

In my view, all parties have come in for criticism through Coventry Telegraph articles at various points. But, more tellingly, all sides continue to come in for criticism when appropriate. The only agenda we have is the news agenda.

I was more aiming to the fact for a few days on the trot Les was releasing "breaking news" damning the council, while the telegraph was releasing news about SISU losing the appeal, and trying to appeal again etc. I did put "the council side" in inverted comma's - I don't literally think it is exactly that!

Don't worry Simon, I still think your the best around (re-tweet that!)