If a new stadium location announcement was made tomorrow (2 Viewers)

[mrtrench]

Wow. There is nothing as tragic as a man who, despite all the evidence and a sharp pain in his arse, does not realize he has been fucked.

ditto.

 

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[Jack Griffin]

No it wouldn't change your stance that it won't be built?

The whole way this has been managed by SISU is wrong.

 

[Samo]

ditto.

I understand that SISU have fucked us all, you don't seem to get that CCC had sloppy seconds.

 

[Jack Griffin]

No change on last year as far as I can tell
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/coventry-city-stadium-plan-sky-6531911

 

[Kingokings204]

Agree with every word. Am no fan of Coventry Council but the way they have played the hand they have been dealt makes me proud too.

SISU have tried every trick in the book and the council have seen them coming.

I also agree and agree with your words. Yes the council have screwed ccfc as we all know but they had to. It's due to our owners why they had to screw us over as they hate sisu after sisu tried as you say every trick in the book. As that was the case it left ccc to go and find wasps and that in turn shafted us. Can't say it's a bad move for the city though. I saw the pubs and business is back booming again.

I hate wasps and ccc as much as anyone else and as I have admitted they have been unhelpful at best but I am wise enough to understand why without my ccfc glasses on. Sisu had a chance to buy the Ricoh and didn't. My football team is screwed but I need and want sisu gone as they are a cancer and will continue to bleed this club dry until they go. I support anything that gets them gone and we can only improve once they go. They can't continue to bleed us if we have no blood so in the end we will be left with no blood to bleed.

All money we spend is going on fruitless legal bills and we have to make do with loan signings on short term contracts. It's embarrassing and I hate it.

As for the stadium as we all know it won't happen. I would support it if it was within Coventry and all that but it's not about supporting a new stadium imo it's about does it make sense? It doesn't make any sense for me. Why go it alone as a run down club in league 1/2 with no future at the moment. Going from scratch whilst all the time there is a purpose built stadium with 32k seats in a great part of the city where it's easy to get to for everyone including away fans and lots of pubs and shops that's already built. Yes we wouldn't own it as wasps do but with our prospects renting is viable and sponsorship and all that is clearly possible.

So yes I would support it and all that but it makes literally no sense in any shape or form so it's makes the support to it irrlevant. In some ways I don't support it purely for the fact it doesn't make sense.

 

[Como]

Tenant in one stadium to tenant in another?

 

[robbieray]

Still cannot believe we are in this position , a ground built for US we are moving away from stupid

 

[RoboCCFC90]

Otis, it depends - for me personally - on different variables these however the main one would notably be location. At this moment in time I cannot envisage the Football Club announcing a Stadium site in which the fans will agree with. My stance on this behalf is for the Club to bleed fans to the board, voted on the by the Supporters Groups, I.e the Trust, SCG, CCLSC, etc and look to reach a compromise short term with the Wasps, long term owning a Stadium has to be the ambition but I find it hard to believe it will be done before 2020.

If the owners can't show a feasible and direct plan going forward then they need to sell up to people who can or are willing to try.


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[bawtryneal]

The priority is to invest in the team. Without a team that the fans can relate to, without loanees who are just passing through, with no atmosphere or passion then a new stadium is irrelevant.
We need to see a promotion pushing team ( in whatever division, probably League 2 next year) before any talk of new stadium.

 

[RoboCCFC90]

The priority is to invest in the team. Without a team that the fans can relate to, without loanees who are just passing through, with no atmosphere or passion then a new stadium is irrelevant.
We need to see a promotion pushing team ( in whatever division, probably League 2 next year) before any talk of new stadium.

Can you clarify what investment you'd like to see? Would you like to see the owners invest?


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[mrtrench]

I understand that SISU have fucked us all, you don't seem to get that CCC had sloppy seconds.

You're right, I don't get that at all. I think they have behaved well.

 

[bawtryneal]

Can you clarify what investment you'd like to see? Would you like to see the owners invest?

I would like to see the owners state that it is their intention to invest in a team with a view to promotion to the Championship. This will be achieved in two ways. Firstly, keep the home grown players with decent competitive contracts and not cash in at every available opportunity ( Wilson, Christie etc) Secondly, start with a goalkeeper on our books, not a loanee, followed by a young hungry squad on two/ three year contracts that reflect the ambition of promotion.
This policy will be close to self financing due to increased gate revenues and merchandising ( if they get in right)

Sadly, I have my doubts if SP is the correct manager.

The state of the club at the moment is unsustainable. I am a relatively successful guy who has followed CCFC for nearly 50 years home and away For 25 years at Highfield Road and 6 years at the Ricoh I was a season ticket holder as passionate as anybody. If I cannot be bothered to go anymore, things must be bad.


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[Sick Boy]

Warning: Have had a few scotches. SISU is completely taking the piss out of this club. They don't empathise in any way with the club, the history or the fans. I work in a similar business, I know that money and profit is everything and the people in this business will say and do anything to get the money. I'm not proud of this but I understand the SISU mentality. I don't believe a single word they say and I hate that they have chosen CCFC to degrade. CCFC is personal for me. CCFC is personal for thousands of people.

So, no, I would not believe any of it. And I am proud of CCC for seeing through the BS and trying their best to make something out of the sow's ear they got.

No, I am not one the posters with duplicate profiles of with a vested interest. But until I have had a few drams I have also moved on. But in my cups, I say fuck off SISU and let us start to rebuild this club with whatever debt and in whichever league you decide to dump us into. And fuck off Lord Haw Haw too. You know who you are.

Oh dear.

 

[Sick Boy]

Proud of the council? Fucking hell. We have enough problems as it is without these moronic comments.

 

[italiahorse]

Wow. There is nothing as tragic as a man who, despite all the evidence and a sharp pain in his arse, does not realize he has been fucked.

We all know we are fckued, but in reality there was nothing they could do other than wait for Sisu and that is not a good plan.

 

[oldskyblue58]

after all that has gone on it will need to see more than words or newspaper headlines. Substantial building works might begin to swing it.

 

[torchomatic]

Brilliant. I think that could be my favourite EVER post on SBT in seven wonderful years.

Ripe for a Shmmeee "battered wife" analogy.

I also agree and agree with your words. Yes the council have screwed ccfc as we all know but they had to. It's due to our owners why they had to screw us over as they hate sisu after sisu tried as you say every trick in the book.

 

[Otis]

Brilliant. I think that could be my favourite EVER post on SBT in seven wonderful years.

Ripe for a Shmmeee "battered wife" analogy.

The council didn't have to screw anyone over.

I undersrtand why they did what they did, but that doesn't make it right or mean that they had to do it.

I do find it very hard to accept the notion that the council are blameless in all this mess.

 

[torchomatic]

No, they didn't have to. They could easily have held onto ACL and the Ricoh and waited for SISU to leave as they will one day. But no...

The council didn't have to screw anyone over.

I undersrtand why they did what they did, but that doesn't make it right or mean that they had to do it.

I do find it very hard to accept the notion that the council are blameless in all this mess.

 

[Gosford Green]

Providing it's within a reasonable distance from the City centre no difference whatsoever.

Good transport links very important buses, trains & road links vital. Better access than the Ricoh and no egg shaped balls please!

That is probably his best one yet. The Ricoh has excellent road and soon to be rail links.

In answer to the question, if SISU build a stadium outside of Coventry I will never set foot in it. Nunation, Rugby or Shipston on Stour. None are Coventry.
This is a total hypothetical question as they are never going to build one, even on here no one believes they will.

 

[Noggin]

If they announced a completed land purchase that appears to fill the necessary requirements yes my opinion would change, Overall I'd still think it was unlikely but at this point I think there is zero chance. If your opinion doesn't change in response to evidence you are an idiot imo despite many posters on this forums misplaced glee and abuse at people who rightfully changed their mind on things.

If they actually start building it I'll gladly admit I'm wrong too and praise them (as long as what they are building is reasonably suitable and not too far away (and I'm not someone who thinks 5 extra mins in the car is a deal breaker). I don't currently believe there is any chance of this because I just can't see it makes any sort of financial sense but If I'm wrong I'm wrong. Not admitting to that doesn't change that, it just makes you a fool as well as you cling to a false belief.

 

[Ashdown]

And it was an acceptable location to us everyone on paper, to what degree would that alter your thinking and stance, if any at all?

Just wondering what affect an announcement would make in terms of people's belief.

For me it wouldn't change a thing. Unfortunately I am so filled with disbelief that it will happen, that a location announcement wouldn't have me batting an eyelid and I would still not believe it until the first brick was set in the foundations and even then I still wouldn't hold out that much hope of completion and would have expect a half built abandonment of the project.

I would guess Sisu would be expecting that an announcement will have us City fans all jumping up and down for joy, but I am not so sure. I think a few would buy it, a fair few would greet it with suspicion and the rest of us wouldn't believe a single word of it.

Would it change your view at all? Would you be more believing in the concept? Interested to know.







* By page 5 of course this will have turned into either a ACL/CCC/Sisu argument or a debate on the rights and wrongs of franchising.

Won't happen, not a chance in hell ! It doesn't make financial sense.............oh wait a minute ??

 

[skybluebeduff]

Providing it's within a reasonable distance from the City centre no difference whatsoever.

Good transport links very important buses, trains & road links vital. Better access than the Ricoh and no egg shaped balls please!

This reads like a man who isn't in the know at all.

Thanks for finally coming clean RFC, help?

 

[Woodster]

If the location of the ground was announced as being outside of the Coventry boundary I will not go. I don't live in Coventry and never have so it's nothing to do with convenience - it could be three miles away from me in Edgbaston but the principle would remain the same, just outside of Coventry is not Coventry.

I think that there would probably be a split amongst those who didn't attend last season and the club would drag in somewhere in the middle of the average attendance of last season and that of this season.

I must agree with Otis' opening post though, I just don't see any land deal or stadium happening. Sites have been identified and targeted, my guess is that the next significant message to come from the club regarding this is that they've failed to find any suitable site and will look to extend any Ricoh deal. I really hope SISU's patience runs out.

 

[mrtrench]

Proud of the council? Fucking hell. We have enough problems as it is without these moronic comments.

Sure, any time you want to debate sensibly I'm up for it. Then we'll see if I am a moron.

 

[SkyblueBazza]

Let's face it - 1/2 of us would die of shock so the capacity would only need to be about 5k

We're getting closer to Hinckley or a Nuneaton ground share by the day.

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