Sleeping Giants?...........perhaps not (5 Viewers)

[stupot07]

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sp...coventry-city-not-one-biggest-8573523#rlabs=2

Coventry City are not one of the biggest sleeping giants in the Football League, statistics suggest.

The Sky Blues have finished 25th out of the 72 Football League club ranked by past performance and crowd attendance by the Trinity Mirror Data Unit.

Each Football League side has been ranked on their average attendance this season, the number of seasons spent in the top flight, seasons since they were last in the top flight, as well as the number of times they have won and come second in major competitions.

Putting those stats together City finish behind League Two side's Luton Town and Portsmouth while League One rivals Bristol City, Bradford and Notts County all finish higher in the list.

City's average home attendance at the Ricoh Arena of more than 9,000 is the third lowest of the top 25 clubs in the Football League.

However, the club's 34 years in the top-flight lift them up the rankings but that is knocked back down by the 14 years they have spent out of the top tier.

Top of the list are Nottingham Forest, who are boosted by their nine major trophies.

Leeds United come second overall with the fifth best attendance record, the best runners-up record and the fifth best trophy record.

Derby come third, Preston North End fourth and Sheffield United fifth.

 

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[kg82]

How are we behind Luton?!

 

[Grendel]

I am struggling to see how finishing behind Luton is possible

 

[Nonleagueherewecome]

If Bradford and Notts C are above us, I suggest that the criteria are flawed in their weightings. Based on Luton's time in Non-league, them too. Obviously recent gates-notably whilst at Sixfields-have had a massive impact on their scoring system.

 

[Nonleagueherewecome]

I am struggling to see how finishing behind Luton is possible

Rare that I agree with you, but I do on that.

 

[Samo]

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sp...coventry-city-not-one-biggest-8573523#rlabs=2

Coventry City are not one of the biggest sleeping giants in the Football League, statistics suggest.

The Sky Blues have finished 25th out of the 72 Football League club ranked by past performance and crowd attendance by the Trinity Mirror Data Unit.

Each Football League side has been ranked on their average attendance this season, the number of seasons spent in the top flight, seasons since they were last in the top flight, as well as the number of times they have won and come second in major competitions.

Putting those stats together City finish behind League Two side's Luton Town and Portsmouth while League One rivals Bristol City, Bradford and Notts County all finish higher in the list.

City's average home attendance at the Ricoh Arena of more than 9,000 is the third lowest of the top 25 clubs in the Football League.

However, the club's 34 years in the top-flight lift them up the rankings but that is knocked back down by the 14 years they have spent out of the top tier.

Top of the list are Nottingham Forest, who are boosted by their nine major trophies.

Leeds United come second overall with the fifth best attendance record, the best runners-up record and the fifth best trophy record.

Derby come third, Preston North End fourth and Sheffield United fifth.

Statistics, pah! 100% of girls I have not met have not said they don't fancy me. I am a sex god.

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

Its a bit rubbish tbh, it only uses current attendances so by there reasoning last season we would have been one of the smallest clubs in the country. Then there is no weighting about the time zone they won there trophies or were in the top flight, example teams like Preston are boosted by 41 years in the top flight, two league titles and two FA Cups but fails to mention most of them years were before like WW2.

Notts County made two FA cup finals in there history (won and 1 runner up) and they were both before 1900 :laugh:. Bradford City won and FA cup in 1911 also and they have no diffferent in weightings for FA Cup to League Cup as Bradfords runner up in the league cup is counted as a major trophy.

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

If Bradford and Notts C are above us, I suggest that the criteria are flawed in their weightings. Based on Luton's time in Non-league, them too. Obviously recent gates-notably whilst at Sixfields-have had a massive impact on their scoring system.

It hasn't because they are only using the current season average, so sixfields attendances are not relevant. Like I just said using there scoring system we'd have been one of the smallest clubs in the football league had they done it 12 months ago.

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

How are we behind Luton?!

Because its bull, we better them in every category other than major trophies finals

Luton have one League cup winner, one runner up league cup and one runner up FA Cup. We have one FA Cup winner, there is no difference in weighting between the two competitions so there two runner up medals are enough apparently to make them a bigger club than us.

 

[The Gentleman]

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sp...coventry-city-not-one-biggest-8573523#rlabs=2

Coventry City are not one of the biggest sleeping giants in the Football League, statistics suggest.

The Sky Blues have finished 25th out of the 72 Football League club ranked by past performance and crowd attendance by the Trinity Mirror Data Unit.

Each Football League side has been ranked on their average attendance this season, the number of seasons spent in the top flight, seasons since they were last in the top flight, as well as the number of times they have won and come second in major competitions.

Putting those stats together City finish behind League Two side's Luton Town and Portsmouth while League One rivals Bristol City, Bradford and Notts County all finish higher in the list.

City's average home attendance at the Ricoh Arena of more than 9,000 is the third lowest of the top 25 clubs in the Football League.

However, the club's 34 years in the top-flight lift them up the rankings but that is knocked back down by the 14 years they have spent out of the top tier.

Top of the list are Nottingham Forest, who are boosted by their nine major trophies.

Leeds United come second overall with the fifth best attendance record, the best runners-up record and the fifth best trophy record.

Derby come third, Preston North End fourth and Sheffield United fifth.

I don't go along with the sleeping giant myth but on seeing the potential to get to the PL will make a team giant in terms of money in the game. All of last season teams that were in the PL are in the top 40 richest clubs in the world. The fact that we are a big city with a good infrastructure for fans to get to a good stadium makes it an even better proposition. Now all we needed was owners who wanted to achieve that but all we got was Sisu. Business wise I can see why they got on board, It's just a fucking crying shame that they have fucked up any chance we had of achieving it by choosing the road they have.

 

[Wheelfass]

There is no cup awarded for winning the Sleeping Giants league. It simply doesn't matter.

 

[oldskyblue58]

“Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are pliable.”
― Mark Twain

 

[LB87ccfc]

So the likes of Luton could pull in 30,000 with a hint of success could they, what a pathetic load of bollocks this survey is.

 

[Samo]

So the likes of Luton could pull in 30,000 with a hint of success could they, what a pathetic load of bollocks this survey is.

And that is why someone should buy the club, that's what we still have to sell.

 

[dongonzalos]

No it seems the effects of the last 7 years have moved us well out of the sleeping Giants category

 

[Astute]

Any more of this ongoing shite at our club and we will be more like a sleeping gnat within a few years.

 

[torchomatic]

“Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are pliable.”
― Simon Gilbert

 

[fernandopartridge]

So the likes of Coventry could pull in 30,000 with a hint of success could they, what a pathetic load of bollocks this survey is.

Indeed. It's all bollocks. Arranging facts to fit your paradigm.

 

[Evo1883]

Its all relative , we never made the top flight until 67 , based on all time attendances average , coventry are ranked 25 we were above leicester and forest up until about 5 years back , on trophies yes i suppose we havent won as many as alot of clubs our size , but most clubs our size won the trophies they did back in the late 1800s early 1900s.
basically there are about 8 sides outside the prem with better all time averages than coventry , and about 5 in the prem with worse .
to suggest luton or notts county are bigger than coventry city is ludicrous , because if you break up the last 70 years on trophies won , seasons in the top flight and europe appearances (granted 1) fan averages post ww2 ... Coventry city are actually the most succesful club in league 1 post ww2 , before that we are not , we have even had a better post ww2 era than teams like sheffield united

 

[Evo1883]

Post ww2 seasons in top flight and our all time average attendance v the others
seasons in top flight ... All time average attendance
coventry 34. 17930

sheffield united 23. 18939

luton town. 16. 10645

notts county. 3. 10327

bradford city. 2. 10169

preston north end. 13. 13465

comparible to so called big clubs ...leeds 25634. Wolves 20328
trophies won , none of the clubs in league 1 or luton but coventry have won major honours (barring leeds and wolves ) recently at all (50 years )
so unless the telegraph are basing there opinions on trophies won 90- 100 years ago , they are deluded .
PS .our stats are not that bad ATT wise over history considering how shit weve been for long periods , we are not as small aspeople make out