Who to keep (1 Viewer)

ptr

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Do we really want to see another massive overhaul this summer where everyone leaves and we just sign another load of players on one year deals. I know most haven't impressed but we need to keep a few just so we haven't got a completely brand new squad again which quite clearly doesn't work.

Tudgay - must be kept, great experience and Mowbray is getting the best out of him. There's a few goals in this lad

Nouble - I know he's frustrating but he's scored some important goals albeit not many. Got skill very good one on one just needs to sort laziness out. Would like to think he could score a few next year, seems like a good character

Johnson - surely doesn't need explaining, must keep regardless of injury troubles this year

Stokes - would be a good squad player, gives 100%

Turgott - scoring regularly for u21 could be a good impact player next season but can see him being shown the door

Two players I wouldn't bother with are webster and barton. Webster is not quick enough anymore and barton is a player I want to like cus he's got a little class about him but he is carried most games. Need goal scoring midfielders.

Still undecided on jackson, been a waste of time this year but surely the player he once was hasn't vanished. Is there anyone better we could get? If he does leave he will only go straight back to gillingham and score tons there like McDonald did.

Pugh can go didn't think much too him when he did play, same with miller too average. And I think willis is up for contract extension? He's a must keep as well. Goes without saying we need to try and get Pennington, ward and samuel back but think it would be hard to get even one of them.

How long do we have to wait till the club release a statement saying who's going who's staying?!
 

FRY-CCFC

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Out of contract:

Simeon Jackson - Get rid unfortunately. Had high hopes when he was signed but hasn't shown enough when he plays (although he's had limited opportunities). I assume he's on decent wages as well.
Andy Webster - Fuck off and die.
Reda Johnson (Optional year extension) - Keep at all costs
Frank Nouble - Shown flashes of brilliance but is so inconsistent. Get rid
Blair Turgott - Never seen him play for more than 10 minutes. Will definitely be off.
Danny Pugh (Optional year extension) - Forgot we had him. Get rid.
Marcus Tudgay - Under Mowbray has been brilliant. Keep
Shaun Miller - Get rid.
Adam Barton - So lightweight. There is clearly talent there but he never shows it. Get rid
Jordan Willis (Optional year extension) - Keep
Ivor Lawton - Don't know a lot about him. Keep

Loan deals expired:

Matthew Pennington - Would love to get him back next year
Sanmi Odelusi - Was ok but nothing amazing.
Chris Stokes - Sign on a free as a squad player.
Grant Ward - We won't be able to get him back but he's a top class player. Will do well in the championship.

Under Contract:

Lee Burge - Loan out/Get rid
Reice Charles-Cook - If we don't sign another GK, give him a chance. Looked the business for nuneaton
Ryan Haynes - Loan out
Aaron Phillips - Keep as backup atm
Aaron Martin - Keep as a backup
Conor Thomas - Fuck off and die.
John Fleck - Keep
Jack Finch - Release him. Awful.
Danny Swanson - Not sure really.
Jim O'Brien - Keep
James Maddison - Give him a new contract. NOW
George Thomas - Loan out
 

Otis

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No to Nouble and no to Turgott.

Both seem to have chips on their shoulders and not the best of attitudes. Are they the sort of players we want to build a winning, top 6 team around?

Nouble has 7 goals over 30 games, has been a passenger since god knows when and totally lacks any consistency whatsoever. Next season we need spirit, fight, determination, belief, consistency and players who give their all for the shirt week in week out.

Was a fan of Nouble, but after about a dozen games of nothingness from him, I believe we must now most certainly get rid.

Turgott isn't even worth discussing I think.
 

skybluepm2

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Out of contract:

Simeon Jackson - Get rid unfortunately. Had high hopes when he was signed but hasn't shown enough when he plays (although he's had limited opportunities). I assume he's on decent wages as well.
Andy Webster - Fuck off and die.
Reda Johnson (Optional year extension) - Keep at all costs
Frank Nouble - Shown flashes of brilliance but is so inconsistent. Get rid
Blair Turgott - Never seen him play for more than 10 minutes. Will definitely be off.
Danny Pugh (Optional year extension) - Forgot we had him. Get rid.
Marcus Tudgay - Under Mowbray has been brilliant. Keep
Shaun Miller - Get rid.
Adam Barton - So lightweight. There is clearly talent there but he never shows it. Get rid
Jordan Willis (Optional year extension) - Keep
Ivor Lawton - Don't know a lot about him. Keep

Loan deals expired:

Matthew Pennington - Would love to get him back next year
Sanmi Odelusi - Was ok but nothing amazing.
Chris Stokes - Sign on a free as a squad player.
Grant Ward - We won't be able to get him back but he's a top class player. Will do well in the championship.

Under Contract:

Lee Burge - Loan out/Get rid
Reice Charles-Cook - If we don't sign another GK, give him a chance. Looked the business for nuneaton
Ryan Haynes - Loan out
Aaron Phillips - Keep as backup atm
Aaron Martin - Keep as a backup
Conor Thomas - Fuck off and die.
John Fleck - Keep
Jack Finch - Release him. Awful.
Danny Swanson - Not sure really.
Jim O'Brien - Keep
James Maddison - Give him a new contract. NOW
George Thomas - Loan out

So strange but I agree with every single judgement in your post (maybe not for Webster or Thomas to die but certainly leave the club ;) )
 

Samo

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Out of contract:

Simeon Jackson - Get rid unfortunately. Had high hopes when he was signed but hasn't shown enough when he plays (although he's had limited opportunities). I assume he's on decent wages as well.
Andy Webster - Fuck off and die.
Reda Johnson (Optional year extension) - Keep at all costs
Frank Nouble - Shown flashes of brilliance but is so inconsistent. Get rid
Blair Turgott - Never seen him play for more than 10 minutes. Will definitely be off.
Danny Pugh (Optional year extension) - Forgot we had him. Get rid.
Marcus Tudgay - Under Mowbray has been brilliant. Keep
Shaun Miller - Get rid.
Adam Barton - So lightweight. There is clearly talent there but he never shows it. Get rid
Jordan Willis (Optional year extension) - Keep
Ivor Lawton - Don't know a lot about him. Keep

Loan deals expired:

Matthew Pennington - Would love to get him back next year
Sanmi Odelusi - Was ok but nothing amazing.
Chris Stokes - Sign on a free as a squad player.
Grant Ward - We won't be able to get him back but he's a top class player. Will do well in the championship.

Under Contract:

Lee Burge - Loan out/Get rid
Reice Charles-Cook - If we don't sign another GK, give him a chance. Looked the business for nuneaton
Ryan Haynes - Loan out
Aaron Phillips - Keep as backup atm
Aaron Martin - Keep as a backup
Conor Thomas - Fuck off and die.
John Fleck - Keep
Jack Finch - Release him. Awful.
Danny Swanson - Not sure really.
Jim O'Brien - Keep
James Maddison - Give him a new contract. NOW
George Thomas - Loan out

[h=3]Proschwitz?[/h]
 

ptr

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Proschwitz I'm not sure cus he works hard but he won't score goals, not with his feet anyway so I wouldn't bother with him.

Odelusi has shown flashes but don't think Mowbray rates him, would have him as impact player though
 

Astute

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Other than our younger players I don't think we need to keep anyone.

Reda. If he didn't miss half of the season each year he would be top of the list to keep. But you can't rely on him or trust him not to get sent off. Pay as you play offer?

JOB. Lots off effort. Does good work for the team. Best of a bad bunch. Keep him as a squad player?

Fuck the rest of them off and let TM rebuild.
 

Otis

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Out of contract:

Simeon Jackson - Get rid unfortunately. Had high hopes when he was signed but hasn't shown enough when he plays (although he's had limited opportunities). I assume he's on decent wages as well. - AGREE
Andy Webster - Fuck off and die. - Err, well, not in such choice words, but AGREE
Reda Johnson (Optional year extension) - Keep at all costs - Not at all costs, but yes, keep.
Frank Nouble - Shown flashes of brilliance but is so inconsistent. Get rid - Yep! AGREE wholeheartedly
Blair Turgott - Never seen him play for more than 10 minutes. Will definitely be off. - Can only go by the word we hear coming from the club that he has a bit of an attitude about him. Get rid.
Danny Pugh (Optional year extension) - Forgot we had him. Get rid. -Me too. AGREE.
Marcus Tudgay - Under Mowbray has been brilliant. Keep. Not brilliant for me, but certainly an option. Yep, keep.
Shaun Miller - Get rid. - AGREE
Adam Barton - So lightweight. There is clearly talent there but he never shows it. Get rid - Totally AGREE.
Jordan Willis (Optional year extension) - Keep. AGREE.
Ivor Lawton - Don't know a lot about him. Keep. Me neither. Keep.

Loan deals expired:

Matthew Pennington - Would love to get him back next year. Yep, same here. Hope he will return.
Sanmi Odelusi - Was ok but nothing amazing. Don't particularly want him back.
Chris Stokes - Sign on a free as a squad player. AGREE
Grant Ward - We won't be able to get him back but he's a top class player. Will do well in the championship. No chance of a return. AGREE.
Proschwitz - Get rid.
Under Contract:

Lee Burge - Loan out/Get rid. Loan out. Give him a season long loan somewhere, then give him another look.
Reice Charles-Cook - If we don't sign another GK, give him a chance. Looked the business for nuneaton. Keep.
Ryan Haynes - Loan out. Keep.
Aaron Phillips - Keep as backup atm. Keep. Agree.
Aaron Martin - Keep as a backup. Get rid. Not good enough. Too slow and ponderous. Too many mistakes.
Conor Thomas - Fuck off and die. Don't agree with the sentiment, but yep, get rid.
John Fleck - Keep. Get rid for me. Not consistent enough often enough and constantly disappearing from matches.
Jack Finch - Release him. Awful. Disagree. Loan him out. Let's see what he does elsewhere.
Danny Swanson - Not sure really. Get rid.
Jim O'Brien - Keep. AGREE
James Maddison - Give him a new contract. NOW. AGREE
George Thomas - Loan out. AGREE


 

sw88

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Out of contract:

Simeon Jackson - Get rid unfortunately. Had high hopes when he was signed but hasn't shown enough when he plays (although he's had limited opportunities). I assume he's on decent wages as well.
Andy Webster - Fuck off and die.
Reda Johnson (Optional year extension) - Keep at all costs
Frank Nouble - Shown flashes of brilliance but is so inconsistent. Get rid
Blair Turgott - Never seen him play for more than 10 minutes. Will definitely be off.
Danny Pugh (Optional year extension) - Forgot we had him. Get rid.
Marcus Tudgay - Under Mowbray has been brilliant. Keep
Shaun Miller - Get rid.
Adam Barton - So lightweight. There is clearly talent there but he never shows it. Get rid
Jordan Willis (Optional year extension) - Keep
Ivor Lawton - Don't know a lot about him. Keep

Loan deals expired:

Matthew Pennington - Would love to get him back next year
Sanmi Odelusi - Was ok but nothing amazing.
Chris Stokes - Sign on a free as a squad player.
Grant Ward - We won't be able to get him back but he's a top class player. Will do well in the championship.

Under Contract:

Lee Burge - Loan out/Get rid
Reice Charles-Cook - If we don't sign another GK, give him a chance. Looked the business for nuneaton
Ryan Haynes - Loan out
Aaron Phillips - Keep as backup atm
Aaron Martin - Keep as a backup
Conor Thomas - Fuck off and die.
John Fleck - Keep
Jack Finch - Release him. Awful.
Danny Swanson - Not sure really.
Jim O'Brien - Keep
James Maddison - Give him a new contract. NOW
George Thomas - Loan out

Pretty much agree with this too! Although I don't think Charles-cook is ready just yet. If Burge gets slated at a young age, won't be long before he goes the same way after a mistake or two. Would still keep him though, just rather someone who's been around a it longer as our number one (not Carroll who was mentioned on another thread though!).
 

BackRoomRummermill

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Swanson been pulling up trees in Perth on loan from us, that from a very close friend of mine who goes home and away for the Saints. scored one of the goals of the season against CELTIC at Parkhead .
 

sotvtoday

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The most important person to keep would be the manager I think. At some point we have to trust a manager to get these decisions right and he looks like our best option for some time.
 

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