Anyone else sick of how slow the club is (9 Viewers)

[ptr]

Everything about this club is slow, announcements, signings, stock, kit, contract renewals and many more...

Are we really believing this BS that were 'waiting for the right player'. Almost every club in the league is active at the moment and there are some good signings being made. Are there people in place at this club to draw up contracts, make up negotiations and to help get paperwork over the line or is it just up to Mowbray, Venus and the infamous Waggot. We get news there is a signing today and nothing happens....we get news of contract renewals and nothing happens. There back in training on weds FFS there's only about 6 of them.

Why the delay on stokes and Lawton, I can almost guarantee they've not had another offer and that they 100% want to sign so what's the problem? Not on holiday surely all they've got to do is sign. If were struggling to convince them straight away then what hope have we got of signing decent players.

Let's not forget it took tudgay to tell us he had signed, the club was a little late on that as well. As for kit there's no way it should have taken this long, should be in place ready before the previous season has ended, surely they will get more sales that way? They must have known for a good while what it looks like so why not release it on pre order?!

Another thing we were yet again the last club to decide our retained list this year. I'm Afraid that SISU are still not putting their hands in their pockets and that Mowbray is becoming another Pressley SISU puppet. Was really positive after the long negotiations TM and SISU were having I thought he had layed down the law and they had listened but the same problems keep propping up. And as for this BS about released players still being contracted till the 30th June....SERIOUSLY that is not a problem surely you can still talk to them and at least get them to sign a pre contract agreement.

This club will not move forward till SISU are out no matter who's is in charge of the team. Feel sorry for Mowbray and if SISU don't back him soon then I can see him walking before too long.

 

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[cmoncity]

Have to say any player we have signed wether free or with a fee seems to take longer than most clubs. Dont know why that is but its just shit

 

[ptr]

There are teams signing players from other teams with a fee involved...maybe even a swap deal, I bet that takes long. But were all sat here expecting just free transfers which is just a player and an agent to negotiate with surely that doesn't take long, which leads me to believe that SISU are just not paying out.

 

[ptr]

Bet you a part of it is there enjoying only having to pay a handful of players at the moment and will happily wait a bit later to sign players just so they save paying them a few weeks wages...

 

[AFCCOVENTRY]

Let me know who the likes of Sheff United with Adkins have signed...

 

[hill83]

 

[ptr]

Let me know who the likes of Sheff United with Adkins have signed...

Let me know when you've read the post properly I said ALMOST all clubs are active...

plus they already have a half decent team to work with before signings...we don't!

 

[lewys33]

I'm sure wasps will love your support.

 

[Otis]

As long as we get the players we need I am not bothered.

No point moaning now and then in a couple of weeks we all suddenly go 'Oh, we have recruited well, that's alright then.'

I am not worried yet. 2 weeks before the season and we still haven't recruited, then I will start to worry.

 

[skybluetony176]

In the past it's bothered me because A)we've been slow and B) the nett result has always disappointed.

However

They were slow to complete the signing of TM but they did sign TM. Nett result, I'm not disappointed.

They were slow to announce the new kit but they've signed a good deal with what looks like a decent supplier and the shop is being moved to a decent location and run by someone with a track record of doing it right. Nett result, I'm not disappointed.

So now they're taking time over signing new players and I'm not worrying yet for the simple reason that on recent form the club taking it's time has paid dividends.

 

[Astute]

How many decent players have been signed so far?

How many would you have loved to have been signed by us?

Would you have been happy if we signed everyone we could like when SP was with us?

Some of us were saying that it would take time. Players are still under contract. They are in no rush. Next week they will not be. They will not be getting paid. So signings will happen more frequently. They will be more willing to take a lower pay. And TM has a limited budget to put a squad together. He is in talks with players and agents. It isn't as though nothing is happening.

 

[Esoterica]

Everything about this club is slow, announcements, signings, stock, kit, contract renewals and many more...

Are we really believing this BS that were 'waiting for the right player'. Almost every club in the league is active at the moment and there are some good signings being made. Are there people in place at this club to draw up contracts, make up negotiations and to help get paperwork over the line or is it just up to Mowbray, Venus and the infamous Waggot. We get news there is a signing today and nothing happens....we get news of contract renewals and nothing happens. There back in training on weds FFS there's only about 6 of them.

Why the delay on stokes and Lawton, I can almost guarantee they've not had another offer and that they 100% want to sign so what's the problem? Not on holiday surely all they've got to do is sign. If were struggling to convince them straight away then what hope have we got of signing decent players.

Let's not forget it took tudgay to tell us he had signed, the club was a little late on that as well. As for kit there's no way it should have taken this long, should be in place ready before the previous season has ended, surely they will get more sales that way? They must have known for a good while what it looks like so why not release it on pre order?!

Another thing we were yet again the last club to decide our retained list this year. I'm Afraid that SISU are still not putting their hands in their pockets and that Mowbray is becoming another Pressley SISU puppet. Was really positive after the long negotiations TM and SISU were having I thought he had layed down the law and they had listened but the same problems keep propping up. And as for this BS about released players still being contracted till the 30th June....SERIOUSLY that is not a problem surely you can still talk to them and at least get them to sign a pre contract agreement.

This club will not move forward till SISU are out no matter who's is in charge of the team. Feel sorry for Mowbray and if SISU don't back him soon then I can see him walking before too long.

If Mowbray's becoming a SISU puppet why do you feel sorry for him? Or if he's a SISU puppet, why would he then walk? So much specious or contradictory bollocks in your rant.

Does it really make you sick that Tudgay tweeted he'd signed before the club did? Does it really make you sick that we've changed kit supplier, moved the shop to a better location and are releasing it as part of the shop opening? Sick that someone released a rumour about signing a player today that you believed but are now blaming the club because it didn't happen? Sick that our new manager took his time to sign his contract and therefore our retained list was delayed as a consequence?

I'm not sure why you give a shit about half the things in your thread but you need to drink less coffee or whatever it is getting you so vitriolic. SISU have treated our club like a bunch of C-units, they don't need you to invent stuff for them. Or at least call your thread 'I'm pissed off we haven't signed any players yet so here's my tenuous list of things to also be angry about'.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Everything about this club is slow, announcements, signings, stock, kit, contract renewals and many more...

Are we really believing this BS that were 'waiting for the right player'. Almost every club in the league is active at the moment and there are some good signings being made. Are there people in place at this club to draw up contracts, make up negotiations and to help get paperwork over the line or is it just up to Mowbray, Venus and the infamous Waggot. We get news there is a signing today and nothing happens....we get news of contract renewals and nothing happens. There back in training on weds FFS there's only about 6 of them.

Why the delay on stokes and Lawton, I can almost guarantee they've not had another offer and that they 100% want to sign so what's the problem? Not on holiday surely all they've got to do is sign. If were struggling to convince them straight away then what hope have we got of signing decent players.

Let's not forget it took tudgay to tell us he had signed, the club was a little late on that as well. As for kit there's no way it should have taken this long, should be in place ready before the previous season has ended, surely they will get more sales that way? They must have known for a good while what it looks like so why not release it on pre order?!

Another thing we were yet again the last club to decide our retained list this year. I'm Afraid that SISU are still not putting their hands in their pockets and that Mowbray is becoming another Pressley SISU puppet. Was really positive after the long negotiations TM and SISU were having I thought he had layed down the law and they had listened but the same problems keep propping up. And as for this BS about released players still being contracted till the 30th June....SERIOUSLY that is not a problem surely you can still talk to them and at least get them to sign a pre contract agreement.

This club will not move forward till SISU are out no matter who's is in charge of the team. Feel sorry for Mowbray and if SISU don't back him soon then I can see him walking before too long.

Get a life, seriously. For your own sake.

 

[AFCCOVENTRY]

Let me know when you've read the post properly I said ALMOST all clubs are active...

plus they already have a half decent team to work with before signings...we don't!

I've read your post and I reiterate...let me know when the top clubs in this division have signed players...

 

[Astute]

I would like anyone who is moaning about our lack of signings and saying that most clubs have been signing players to put a squad together with all of the players that have been signed so far, and honestly say that they would be happy with it.

Clarke is an interesting one. Now in his 30's and not played much for a year or so. 3 year contract? How much are they giving him? None of the others are much of a loss.

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

Mowbray knows what he's doing, he's probably got his eye on championship players and youngsters from premier league clubs who will either be waiting out as long as possible to try and get a higher division club or are waiting around a few weeks to see if they are part of there clubs plans for the upcoming season.

Mowbray has already said he could have signed 4 or 5 players already if he wanted to but he didn't want those players

 

[stupot07]

I would like anyone who is moaning about our lack of signings and saying that most clubs have been signing players to put a squad together with all of the players that have been signed so far, and honestly say that they would be happy with it.

Clarke is an interesting one. Now in his 30's and not played much for a year or so. 3 year contract? How much are they giving him? None of the others are much of a loss.

Agreed. Personally I think Clarke will still score for fun in league one, but there's no way I'd offer a nomadic 30 year old who'd still warrant decent wages for L1, a 3 year deal in this league. I have faith in TM.

 

[phildownunder]

The club has appointed someone who is almost universally respected, and regarded as having a wide range of contacts in the game.

Most on here (including me) were delighted to see him sign on. Can`t we now let him get on with doing things as he sees fit. Isn`t that what we would want him to do.

Given the lengthy talks that went on before he agreed to sign, I doubt that he is any one`s "yes man".

 

[standupforcity]

The club has appointed someone who is almost universally respected, and regarded as having a wide range of contacts in the game.

Most on here (including me) were delighted to see him sign on. Can`t we now let him get on with doing things as he sees fit. Isn`t that what we would want him to do.

Given the lengthy talks that went on before he agreed to sign, I doubt that he is any one`s "yes man".

Completely agree. We are entering a truly exciting era in my opinion because we at last have a manager of integrity and gravitas....someone who knows the game inside out and won't be pushed around by anyone. That's why it took so long for him to sign, because it was always going to be on his terms. TM can be another JH for this club and I have no doubt that he'll be signing the right players....what I want to see now is fans turning up at the Ricoh and giving 100%. That's the power we have!

 

[Hobo]

I am sure TM said last week we have been very close to a few. So we may have just missed out on a couple? I don't think that should cause too much alarm. I am sure TM has identified areas that need strengthening and a budget for those gaps. If the bidding goes beyond that then you move to your next target. You might be up against a team that wants to blow all its budget on that one position. Money talks. But so do wives/girlfriends, commute, relocation costs, mates who already play for a team. Players aren't going to be oh it's Cov I'll sign. It is not that simple.

once you have the players they have to blend. So I would rather see a few at a time rather than a big influx. If it take 3-4 windows so what.

What annoys me more, is the unrealistic expectation our fans seem to have! It is nothing about sharing the ambition to get out of this league; but it is about how do you achieve it and stay out of this league with good building blocks to be competitive in The Championship. It is about realistic time scales on a limited budget. The job is to acquire some quality players, develop the players we have and supplement with a few loans to build a competitive team.

 

[Warwickhunt]

PTR! How do you know that they have'nt talked to them?

 

[ccfcway]

What annoys me more, is the unrealistic expectation our fans seem to have!.

i'm not convinced we do. I posted on another thread that i would happily take a play off final in 2025 if it was offered to me now. That's hardly living the dream

 

[ptr]

Get a life, seriously. For your own sake.

Wow I need to get a life because I've voiced my opinion on a fans forum. Idiot.

We go back to training on weds. I'm not a fan of getting players in late when there fitness levels aren't up to the right standard and when they have no time to be worked on and to fit in with the group. For the people saying there's no one we have missed out on well then who is there left please? Would have had Leon Clarke, yes he's not great but scored goals at this level. Remember how excited we were getting simeon jackson so late on last year? That turned out great. I'm sure all will Be fine and we will get the right players in but we do seem slow at any sort of negotiations.

 

[Otis]

Wow I need to get a life because I've voiced my opinion on a fans forum. Idiot.

We go back to training on weds. I'm not a fan of getting players in late when there fitness levels aren't up to the right standard and when they have no time to be worked on and to fit in with the group. For the people saying there's no one we have missed out on well then who is there left please? Would have had Leon Clarke, yes he's not great but scored goals at this level. Remember how excited we were getting simeon jackson so late on last year? That turned out great. I'm sure all will Be fine and we will get the right players in but we do seem slow at any sort of negotiations.

It's not just a case of bringing players in, it's all about bringing the right players in. We have no idea what is going on behind the scenes or whether negotiations for players are already underway.

Can't see the point of worrying about something we are not privvy too.

Had TM come out and said we were struggling to recruit or that we had bids failed, it would be a different matter, but he hasn't.

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[Samo]

Wow I need to get a life because I've voiced my opinion on a fans forum. Idiot.

We go back to training on weds. I'm not a fan of getting players in late when there fitness levels aren't up to the right standard and when they have no time to be worked on and to fit in with the group. For the people saying there's no one we have missed out on well then who is there left please? Would have had Leon Clarke, yes he's not great but scored goals at this level. Remember how excited we were getting simeon jackson so late on last year? That turned out great. I'm sure all will Be fine and we will get the right players in but we do seem slow at any sort of negotiations.

Slow can be good. Just trust TM to do things his own way.

 

[rupert_bear]

So ptr do you want a mass influx like we had last season Coullibey, Miller, Pugh, Swanson, Jackson and i am 50/50 re O'Brien and Tudgay until Mowbray arrived. The first five hardly played a dozen games between them. There will be new players and they will be players who make us better don't care if it takes all of July as long as we get the right type.

 

[LJC_CCFC]

Our first transfer of last season was made on the 3rd July. People need to just relax and frankly stop looking for something to moan about. The manager is in place, his backroom staff are in place, contract negotiations are on-going and in time transfers both in and out will happen. Since when has signing players early on in the window been influential to the success a club has over a season?

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

Higher up the leagues it is better to get your business done early but in this league we need to wait for the higher leagues to go first and see what is left, no rush at all at the moment and no panic.

 

[ptr]

Our first transfer of last season was made on the 3rd July. People need to just relax and frankly stop looking for something to moan about. The manager is in place, his backroom staff are in place, contract negotiations are on-going and in time transfers both in and out will happen. Since when has signing players early on in the window been influential to the success a club has over a season?

Since when has signing players late in the window been influential to our success? It hasn't. We do it most years give players who haven't yet found a club, becuase there shite, 1 year deals, they don't try and then they fuck off again after the years up like a never ending cycle. If owners don't invest in signing up and coming players from either our league or league below then were going nowhere. We won't make any money of the players we get on a free and they certainly give us nothing progression wise. We will all be very happy when new singings come in but will we be back to square 1 next summer? Hoping they prove me wrong and they get the recruitment right but honestly don't know how good a player we can attract anymore...

 

[Astute]

Wow I need to get a life because I've voiced my opinion on a fans forum. Idiot.

We go back to training on weds. I'm not a fan of getting players in late when there fitness levels aren't up to the right standard and when they have no time to be worked on and to fit in with the group. For the people saying there's no one we have missed out on well then who is there left please? Would have had Leon Clarke, yes he's not great but scored goals at this level. Remember how excited we were getting simeon jackson so late on last year? That turned out great. I'm sure all will Be fine and we will get the right players in but we do seem slow at any sort of negotiations.

You seem to be after a debate about something very important. Good. That is what most of us post on here for.

How about giving a reply to my earlier post? I said that the one interesting signing was Clarke. But he is now in his 30's and got a 3 year contract. Most probably on a good weekly wage as well. His last contract before retirement? Would you have been happy for TM to have spent a large amount of his budget for the next 3 years to bring him back to our club?

Then the other part of my post was about making a squad you would be happy with that have been signed so far. Who would you choose to go with Clarke?

The better players are negotiating the best deal they can get. They can afford to turn offers down. The clubs are negotiating the best deals for them. It takes time to meet somewhere in the middle. Or you can do what Bury have done and give what was asked for to get an early signing.

BTW I look forward to seeing the squad you are going to put together

 

[Chipfat]

I dont think TM is in a fantastic position he is waiting for a reason,, he can't go and get who he wants, he has to wait to see who slips through the cracks in terms of a list he has.. He will not be sitting there with his finger up his arse he will of made calls stated his interest in individuals and if they come off he will be happy.. If they dont he will move onto his 2nd option in that position..

If we are coming up to the end of pre season and he is still finding players for multiple positions then worry.. If he is getting a player on loan week before the season starts then it will be someone more developed or better than we have... Time will tell but TM knows what he is doing,,just wonder if SISU will have the correct backing for him to compete..

 

[Astute]

Since when has signing players late in the window been influential to our success? It hasn't. We do it most years give players who haven't yet found a club, becuase there shite, 1 year deals, they don't try and then they fuck off again after the years up like a never ending cycle. If owners don't invest in signing up and coming players from either our league or league below then were going nowhere. We won't make any money of the players we get on a free and they certainly give us nothing progression wise. We will all be very happy when new singings come in but will we be back to square 1 next summer? Hoping they prove me wrong and they get the recruitment right but honestly don't know how good a player we can attract anymore...

1 year contracts given out last year allowed us to get rid of players not good enough much more easily. So if TM does a good job and we get promoted we could do the same and bring in better players.

One more thing though. You moan about TM not bringing any new players in and then mention the 1 year contracts when he has only ever brought 1 player to our club before. And that was a loan.

Give him a chance to bring in players before slagging him off. He is the most experienced manager we have had for a long time. I am waiting until the loans have come in. And that will be just before the season starts at least.

 

[ptr]

1 year contracts given out last year allowed us to get rid of players not good enough much more easily. So if TM does a good job and we get promoted we could do the same and bring in better players.

One more thing though. You moan about TM not bringing any new players in and then mention the 1 year contracts when he has only ever brought 1 player to our club before. And that was a loan.

Give him a chance to bring in players before slagging him off. He is the most experienced manager we have had for a long time. I am waiting until the loans have come in. And that will be just before the season starts at least.

I haven't slagged him off at all do you really think it's down to him how much a players gets and how long their contracts are? Down to him to pick players but it's the owners paying the money not TM. Think he's great for us, defiantly no one better that we could realistically have but does he really know what he's walked into with these clowns running the club

 

[stupot07]

I haven't slagged him off at all do you really think it's down to him how much a players gets and how long their contracts are? Down to him to pick players but it's the owners paying the money not TM. Think he's great for us, defiantly no one better that we could realistically have but does he really know what he's walked into with these clowns running the club

He has control of the budget, he will identify a player, talk to the agent, get an idea of what the players wage demands are likely to be and then decide when that's a good use of resources. Control of Player recruitment and the budget was one of his requirements before agreeing to stay with us. Teams have finished higher and been promoted on lower budgets that ours, TM is a good manager and will get the best out of the budget and players as his disposal,


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[M&B Stand]

It's high season for signing released players, when players and agents get a bit closer to August without a deal, their overinflated sense of worth is somewhat curtailed and they realise a contract at Coventry City might just be worth signing. Goes for all standards, loads of decent players are still unattached.