spill the beans (8 Viewers)

[georgehudson]

t'would be interesting to hear the viewpoint of the current hierarchy concerning the LC transfer, of course whether you believe that, is entirely up to you, what is born out historically though, is that LC has moved on a regular basis, also that Wolves have purchased players to stop other clubs from success, as have so many other clubs, plus, of course, the situation of Callum Wilson, was offered more, according to SW, but then chose to move to B'mouth,
in summation, both sides of these stories could / should be heard, but, i don't think they will be

 

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[Grendel]

Who achieved what?

Fifth time lucky maybe.

According to you we sold him and then signed a loan *correction, seven players* who cost us more in wages and didn't deliver. Like I said. What benefit did we get out of this deal again?

Wouldn't it also be true to say some of those signings would have arrived even if he'd stayed and we didn't have his transfer fee to "invest" in the squad? Thinking Mark Marshall specifically.

What benefit wasn't your question though was it?

The benefit through was players who still played. Clarke would have never played again if we didn't let him have his way. Even you must know that - then again.

 

[skybluetony176]

What benefit wasn't your question though was it?

The benefit through was players who still played. Clarke would have never played again if we didn't let him have his way. Even you must know that - then again.

According to the man himself "having his way" consisted of two scenarios. One being the transfer and the second being a pay rise and staying. So if we'd have let him have the second way we'd have still had him, he would have been here at least last season also and according to you we'd have been paying him less than his short term fix loan replacement who wasn't half the player Clarke was for us.

We gained nothing from the transfer as a team. The money was not reinvested in the squad, it was used to cover self imposed loses from the scenario our owners engineered. Why you try to kid people anything different happened as a supposedly CCFC fan is beyond me.

 

[torchomatic]

He doesn't read he "interprets".

Read what he actually says.

 

[usskyblue]

This thread, as useless and irritating as it is, actually did serve a purpose.

Thanks to everyone involved.

 

[Nick]

Is there still a massive conspiracy then, or not?

 

[usskyblue]

It is my, carefully considered, opinion that conspiracy theories tend to be more convincing when they're not presented by thick twats.

 

[stupot07]

We were making £7-8m losses before the sixfields move, we'd have still been making losses that season if we'd have been at the Ricoh. So covering the sixfields move is a moot point.


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[Moff]

Bloody hell. Only on Sky Blues talk could we argue about a player who left us nearly two years ago, and of whom we will never know the truth about the whole saga of why he left. He plays for Bury, move on.

Apparently Robbie Keane scored some goals for LA last year, bloody Richardson the bastard taking all the money for himslf and Robinson and not investing it back in the team, we would still be in the Premier League yadda yadda etc etc ...........

 

[SkyblueBazza]

What has he said? Apart from the fact he wanted to move, he wanted more money and his hometown club? The club said if you want to go you hand in a transfer request.

Read what he actually says.

Therein lies the problem. People believe what they read. Edited words or spun words mostly.

We can only believe what has been said when we hear it first hand or in an uncut TV interview...although even then we sometime hear a meaning or implication that isn't there.

What we can do is look for patterns. This guy has either performed well but moved on early for some reason. Or not performed.

...onwards & upwards PUSB

 

[usskyblue]

Bloody hell. Only on Sky Blues talk could we argue about a player who left us nearly two years ago, and of whom we will never know the truth about the whole saga of why he left. He plays for Bury, move on.

Apparently Robbie Keane scored some goals for LA last year, bloody Richardson the bastard taking all the money for himslf and Robinson and not investing it back in the team, we would still be in the Premier League yadda yadda etc etc ...........

An encouraging opening that faded in to a vat of sarcasm. Sadly, I feel, it will be seen as 'perpetuation' at best.

 

[usskyblue]

Therein lies the problem. People believe what they read. Edited words or spun words mostly.

We can only believe what has been said when we hear it first hand or in an uncut TV interview...although even then we sometime hear a meaning or implication that isn't there.

What we can do is look for patterns. This guy has either performed well but moved on early for some reason. Or not performed.

...onwards & upwards PUSB

I think, and I'm sure you'll correct me if I'm wrong (whilst all the while being mindful of 'perpetuation') .....it's clearly a case of; 'who gives a shit why he left?'

 

[covcity4life]

he wanted more money
we didnt want to give more money
he wanted to leave
we let him

understandable from both parties.

 

[Grendel]

he wanted more money
we didnt want to give more money
he wanted to leave
we let him

understandable from both parties.

So basically a club gives a guy a contract and if the guy who willingly signed the contract decided he wanted a pay rise that's ok.

It isn't really is it? Also I suspect Wolves offered quite a bit more money - don't you?

 

[covcity4life]

So basically a club gives a guy a contract and if the guy who willingly signed the contract decided he wanted a pay rise that's ok.

It isn't really is it? Also I suspect Wolves offered quite a bit more money - don't you?

exactly. sisu haters want the club to bow to player demands. then they would moan they dont run the club right.

 

[skybluetony176]

he wanted more money
we didnt want to give more money
he wanted to leave
we let him

understandable from both parties.

That's about the size of it.

 

[skybluebeduff]

I wish he was still our player after all is said and done.

 

[usskyblue]

exactly. sisu haters want the club to bow to player demands. then they would moan they dont run the club right.

The only thing that's obvious about this, and many other threads...is that SISU haters utilize whatever information (valid or invalid) and 'use' it to embelosh their shrine to the Ron Atkinson years.

 

[Nick]

I am not sure what you lot are reading. That article clearly reads that SISU clearly forced him out because they didn't want to pay his wages and he didn't want to go to Wolves. :sarcasm:

 

[letsallsingtogether]

The only thing that's obvious about this, and many other threads...is that SISU haters utilize whatever information (valid or invalid) and 'use' it to embelosh their shrine to the Ron Atkinson years.

Or you can read it the other way and that is to blame anyone bar Sisu for everything.
PUSB

 

[covmark]

Or you can read it the other way and that is to blame anyone bar Sisu for everything.
PUSB

Seriously, who does this??

 

[Nick]

Or you can read it the other way and that is to blame anyone bar Sisu for everything.
PUSB

But when you read the article and the OP then you will see it's a lot of random speculation isn't it? Just because somebody pretty much imagines something and it is pointed out they are wrong.

 

[Nick]

Seriously, who does this??

anybody who points out that people who just randomly make things up / speculate / imagine things are wrong.

 

[Grendel]

Or you can read it the other way and that is to blame anyone bar Sisu for everything.
PUSB

No but sisu are not to blame for Clarke leaving.

It's actually really a broader debate that applies to any footballer who sniffs a better offer from another club.

They leave - whatever the club and whatever the owner.

 

[torchomatic]

To be fair though I can't recall any other club EVER having to sell a player against their wishes. It's only ever happened to us. And, we've only ever sold our best players since SISU have been here. Never happened before.

No but sisu are not to blame for Clarke leaving.

It's actually really a broader debate that applies to any footballer who sniffs a better offer from another club.

They leave - whatever the club and whatever the owner.

 

[Sick Boy]

Seriously, who does this??

Thick cunts.

 

[letsallsingtogether]

Thick cunts.

Like those that use that discusting word!,

 

[letsallsingtogether]

No but sisu are not to blame for Clarke leaving.

It's actually really a broader debate that applies to any footballer who sniffs a better offer from another club.

They leave - whatever the club and whatever the owner.

Correct but all I am saying is that it can be read anyway you want too, depending on which side of the fence you prefer.

 

[letsallsingtogether]

Seriously, who does this??

Do you actually read the post on here.
If you did you would know.

 

[Nick]

Correct but all I am saying is that it can be read anyway you want too, depending on which side of the fence you prefer.

No it can't. It clearly says he wanted to go and SISU said if you want to go you hand in a transfer request.

Doesn't matter which side of the fence you prefer it is there in black and white, unless you just want to make up theories and then throw the SISU lover line out every time somebody points out it is bollocks that is.

"Ah Joy Seppala is just using CCFC and takes out millions into her pocket"
"She doesn't actually though does she?"
"Stop defending them, SISU lover"

 

[Sick Boy]

Like those that use that discusting word!,

You are still calling me a c**t.

 

[Pete in Portugal]

No but sisu are not to blame for Clarke leaving.

It's actually really a broader debate that applies to any footballer who sniffs a better offer from another club.

They leave - whatever the club and whatever the owner.

I agree Grendel. In any case, in my view, it should not be a question of 'who's to blame?'. It's more a question of 'did the club (or SISU, if you prefer) make the right decision in allowing Clarke to leave. Given the circumstances and taking into account Clarke's behaviour at that time, I believe that selling him to Wolves was probably the best option available and their decision was therefore fully justified.

 

[letsallsingtogether]

You are still calling me a c**t.

No I think you are one, I haven'tsaid you were there is a difference.

You really need to do better no point in calling people names just because they have beaten you in an argument.
Just take it like a man.

 

[letsallsingtogether]

No it can't. It clearly says he wanted to go and SISU said if you want to go you hand in a transfer request.

Doesn't matter which side of the fence you prefer it is there in black and white, unless you just want to make up theories and then throw the SISU lover line out every time somebody points out it is bollocks that is.

"Ah Joy Seppala is just using CCFC and takes out millions into her pocket"
"She doesn't actually though does she?"
"Stop defending them, SISU lover"

Can also be seen as no you are not worth a pay rise so hand in a transfer request and we will cash in?
As for your other comments I wouldn't know if she was taking money out of the club but I'll take your word for it

 

[Ian1779]

Can also be seen as no you are not worth a pay rise so hand in a transfer request and we will cash in?
As for your other comments I wouldn't know if she was taking money out of the club but I'll take your word for it

You probably also think that Jeremy Corbyn is an extremist because he doesn't want to start a nuclear war