Okay, you can travel back in time to circa 1966-67 (2 Viewers)

[Otis]

There you have the opportunity to meet John Lennon and Paul McCartney. I picked Lennon & Mccartney, because this is the time the Beatles were at their most inventive and most creative too. The Beatles also being the biggest band in the world and at the forefront of how music was so very quickly moving forwards around this time and when recording techniques were also becoming forever more innovative with multi-layering and boundaries being pushed, with lots of experimentation.

So, what 3 songs would you bring from the future that you would feel would either amaze, astound or inspire?


Had a quick think and would reckon:

Muse - Plug in Baby

Kraftwerk - Showroom Dummies

Nirvana - Smells Like Teen Spirit



Other posibilities, Life on Mars - Bowie, Ramones -Blitzkreig Bop, Bohemian Rhapsody - Queen. Something off Dark Side of the Moon - Pink Floyd.

 

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[Johnnythespider]

God save the queen - the sex pistols
Ceremony - New order
New Grass - Talk Talk

 

[bringbackrattles]

The three I'd choose would be a Sex Pistols track : Pretty Vacant for the punk era.For the Heavy Metal choice: Paranoid by Black Sabbath. And just for creativity a Pink Floyd song: Wish You Were Here.

 

[dutchman]

All the songs mentioned so far were much later than 66-67.

Three that are from the period and ahead of their time:
Pink Floyd - See Emily Play
Traffic - Here We Go Round The Mulberry Bush
Jefferson Airplane - White Rabbit

 

[Otis]

All the songs mentioned so far were much later than 66-67.

Three that are from the period and ahead of their time:
Pink Floyd - See Emily Play
Traffic - Here We Go Round The Mulberry Bush
Jefferson Airplane - White Rabbit

Maybe I didn't explain myself, dutchman.

From the future you travel back in time and take back with you 3 songs for Lennon and McCartney to hear back in 1966/67.

 

[skybluetony176]

Transmission -Joy Division
Walk - Pantera
Blitzkrieg Bop - The Ramones

And Baby's got Back - Sir Mixalot as a bonus track.

 

[Otis]

Transmission -Joy Division
Walk - Pantera
Blitzkrieg Bop - The Ramones

And Baby's got Back - Sir Mixalot as a bonus track.

Yeah, Transmission is a great call! To my mind it would have to be groundbreaking stuff that really pricks up your ears.

 

[Malaka]

Are Friends Electric: Tubeway Army
Mouth for War: Pantera
Your Song; Elton John

 

[Malaka]

God save the queen - the sex pistols
Ceremony - New order
New Grass - Talk Talk

I love Talk Talk

 

[lordsummerisle]

Harder than you think - Public Enemy.

How soon is now - The Smiths.

Pretty vacant - Sex Pistols.

 

[We'll_live_and_die]

I love Talk Talk

So did I until they let a hacker have all my details.

 

[Otis]

Are Friends Electric: Tubeway Army
Mouth for War: Pantera
Your Song; Elton John

You think Your Song , which was from 1970 is groundbreaking enough to show Lennon and McCartney in 1966/67?

Interesting.

Been some good suggestions on here. Are Friends Electric is quite groundbreaking, but then it wouldn't have even ben made without Kraftwerk coming to the fore.

Would say punk was really groundbreaking, as was Pink Floy's Dark Side of the Moon. Music that really makes you think, wow, that's taking music in a different direction. Bohemian Rhapsody is obviously another one and so too Transmission, by Joy Division.

 

[Malaka]

You think Your Song , which was from 1970 is groundbreaking enough to show Lennon and McCartney in 1966/67?

Interesting.

Been some good suggestions on here. Are Friends Electric is quite groundbreaking, but then it wouldn't have even ben made without Kraftwerk coming to the fore.

Would say punk was really groundbreaking, as was Pink Floy's Dark Side of the Moon. Music that really makes you think, wow, that's taking music in a different direction. Bohemian Rhapsody is obviously another one and so too Transmission, by Joy Division.

I understand your perspective, two of the songs changed my musical taste but Your Song is a song that I wish I had written, it is perfect IMO. Also Pink Floyd were well established in the sixties and have continued to musically evolve (well up to a point), they have written some classic music, but an awful lot of rubbish. Bit like Led Zep really

 

[Johnnythespider]

I love Talk Talk

Yes, those last 2 albums could have been by a completely different band to the earlier electropop. I love every second of New Grass, all 9 minutes and 40 seconds of it.

 

[Johnnythespider]

So did I until they let a hacker have all my details.

15 year old boy by all accounts.

 

[We'll_live_and_die]

15 year old boy by all accounts.

He'll be snapped up by MI5, CIA etc if he has the ability to do that at 15. Get him onside before he becomes a real problem.

 

[jimmyhillsfanclub]

Ghost Town: The Specials

Voodoo Ray: A Guy called Gerald

Wrote for Luck: Happy Mondays.

 

[mrtrench]

I'd take "Let It Be"; "The Long & Winding Road" and "Across the Universe". I'd ensure it was well documented that I was giving them & wait for the royalties to roll in.

EDIT: I'd also take all McCartney's solo and Wings work and threaten to sue if he ever released any of it. There you are - always trying to save the world.

 

[mrtrench]

Yes, those last 2 albums could have been by a completely different band to the earlier electropop. I love every second of New Grass, all 9 minutes and 40 seconds of it.

Completely agree. I'd long written them off as pop music and only discovered the good stuff a few years ago.

 

[Otis]

I'd take "Let It Be"; "The Long & Winding Road" and "Across the Universe". I'd ensure it was well documented that I was giving them & wait for the royalties to roll in.

EDIT: I'd also take all McCartney's solo and Wings work and threaten to sue if he ever released any of it. There you are - always trying to save the world.

Some Wings stuff is good, but I wonder what McCartney would say if you played him all that pap he made while he was in the middle of composing Eleanor Rigby or She's Leaving Home?

 

[dutchman]

Maybe I didn't explain myself, dutchman.

From the future you travel back in time and take back with you 3 songs for Lennon and McCartney to hear back in 1966/67.

Okay, thanks Otis. (I'm new to this posting lark ).

In that case it's:

Orchestral Maneuvers in the Dark - Messages
Jon and Vangelis - I'll Find My Way Home
Leonard Cohen - First We Take Manhattan

 

[mds]

Anything from Beastie Boys, Prince, Eminem or Evanescence


Be sure to warn them that music tastes change, and they better be on the cusp of that change

 

[mrtrench]

I'm going to answer this question seriously now. It has to be something that blows their minds - something they couldn't imagine.

So, "Are Friends Electric?" I agree. There has to be a synth tune and whilst Neu, Kraftwerk and even Ultravox had used it before Numan took it to another level with added spooky.

There has to be a thrash track and I agree with "Smells Like Teen Spirit" as the best of that genre. I know it's really grunge but it's a excellent track and I don't think that the extremes of thrash would have the same impact. This would also cover the punk spirit.

I think there would also have to be a polished pop song, the like of which they had never heard. Unfortunately I don't listen to that stuff so my choice is limited - there will be better. But I'm going for "Can You Feel It?" by the Jacksons as during that time Michael at the boys were at their peak and producing great music. Much of Jackson's "Off the Wall" would suffice too but I think this is better.

 

[mrtrench]

And to steal your thread, in similar circumstances, what would you play to John Lydon in 1977?

 

[Otis]

What about O Superman by Laurie Anderson?

I still have to shake my head in disbelief that it actually made number 2 in the charts, even though I love it myself. Don't think there had ever been anything like it before.

Would also think it would be right up Lennon's street because obviously Yoko Ono was a perfromance artist too.


[video=youtube;-VIqA3i2zQw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VIqA3i2zQw[/video]

 

[Deleted member 5849]

And to steal your thread, in similar circumstances, what would you play to John Lydon in 1977?

Marillion, one of the later Yes albums, and Radiohead... to show him that no matter how hard he tried, Prog would not die

 

[Otis]

Radiohead is a very good call.

 

[jimmyhillsfanclub]

I'm going to answer this question seriously now. It has to be something that blows their minds - something they couldn't imagine.

So, "Are Friends Electric?" I agree. There has to be a synth tune and whilst Neu, Kraftwerk and even Ultravox had used it before Numan took it to another level with added spooky.

There has to be a thrash track and I agree with "Smells Like Teen Spirit" as the best of that genre. I know it's really grunge but it's a excellent track and I don't think that the extremes of thrash would have the same impact. This would also cover the punk spirit.

I think there would also have to be a polished pop song, the like of which they had never heard. Unfortunately I don't listen to that stuff so my choice is limited - there will be better. But I'm going for "Can You Feel It?" by the Jacksons as during that time Michael at the boys were at their peak and producing great music. Much of Jackson's "Off the Wall" would suffice too but I think this is better.

I don't understand the idea that Nirvana were in anyway ground-breaking in terms of what is being discussed here.....

...don't get me wrong, They were a good band (I'm saw them live supporting Tad on the sub-pop tour in 1989 at Portsmouth Poly) but Lennon & McCartney were from the same era as the MC5 & Jimi Hendrix Experience etc. so Smells Like Teen Spirit wouldn't have "blown their mind".....

.....My earlier choices in this thread were listed without much thought......but now I reckon I'd maybe swap the Happy Mondays tune with a seminal disco track such as Donna Summers "I feel love".....

Not really my cup of tea......but without it, the music that fuelled rave culture, which in turn shaped dance music to this day, wouldn't have sounded the same.....

 

[Deleted member 5849]

I don't understand the idea that Nirvana were in anyway ground-breaking in terms of what is being discussed here.....

I tend to agree. Personally I *hate* rap, but it's so different to what I think they'd be used to, that a decent example would have to go in.

 

[jimmyhillsfanclub]

Slightly away from the main theme of the thread, but the Buzzcocks "Spiral Scratch" EP would impress them......the first true "indie" record.....finally showing that their initial "Apple records" label dream could work as a truly independent......not just a sub-division of EMI


Heads up: Folks on this thread should watch this:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06g64wb/episodes/player

 

[lordsummerisle]

I tend to agree. Personally I *hate* rap, but it's so different to what I think they'd be used to, that a decent example would have to go in.

Why I put Public Enemy in there.

Possibly could get rid of The Sex Pistols as I think that Iggy and the Stooges started around that time, so could have already heard a kind of "punk" music.

 

[mrtrench]

Rap is just talking over no musical innovation IMO so that wouldn't make it. I agree with Donna Summer over the Jacksons. The point with Nirvana is the size of the sound. Hendrix was brilliant but it was really just the blues and didn't have the depth of sound that thrash has. Also Nirvana blew my mind when I first heard them much as Numan and Radiohead did.

 

[mrtrench]

Prodigy maybe?

 

[mrtrench]

Marillion, one of the later Yes albums, and Radiohead... to show him that no matter how hard he tried, Prog would not die

Yes we're killed by punk. They managed just 'going for the one' and 'tormado' (sp?) of even remote quality and to be honest they'd probably already recorded the former when punk exploded into the scene.

Marillion I have no idea about, never heard any as I imagine it's not my cup of tea. Did they really release anything after 1977?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Yes we're killed by punk. They managed just 'going for the one' and 'tormado' (sp?) of even remote quality and to be honest they'd probably already recorded the former when punk exploded into the scene.

Marillion I have no idea about, never heard any as I imagine it's not my cup of tea. Did they really release anything after 1977?

Yes still going into the 21st century, and their biggest chat hits were 1980s.

Marillion didn't even start recording until the 1980s and have managed single successes into the 21st century.