Sky Blue Pete
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Still cloud cuckoo land for me
Where do you think the stadium site in Coventry might be? (7 Viewers)
letsallsingtogether
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Which part of Cov is that in?
duffer
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I think it is this one:
Good photo mate, but blimey, you're a lot taller than I realised.
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Otis
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You might not be far wrong, because if there is a Platform 9 3/4, then there will be thousand upon thousand of acres to build on.
Trouble is, no away supporter will be able to find it.
chinamans view
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Somebody with plenty of cash will buy the ground and football club in a double deal, so we wont move. (but it might not be in our lifetime)
bringbackrattles
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They are building on it as I walk past there a lot, but it is a huge space ideal for a new stadium.Then again I live fairly local so as I walk to the Ricoh on matchdays I would say that !
CJ_covblaze
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In a meeting a year or so back Maton stated the largest site available in Coventry was the Dunlop and Meggitt site (even with a large amount of it already put aside for housing). Fisher replied that the size of that plot was no where near the size required. There were also problems with access.
Nick
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Wasn't that him just spinning though? He basically named a site, people went mental saying "SISU buy it etc etc" when it wasn't actually viable anyway.
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Personally, I think the only way we'll move forward is for the respective parties to disregard what the others have said ref: plots of land available, and size of plots required.
Clean slate, identify space, work together to claim space and build place.
(well, as long as it's not anywhere near my garden, anyway
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Houchens Head
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Knock down those bloody flats and houses in Swan Lane and rebuild it where it belongs! HIGHFIELD ROAD!
CJ_covblaze
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The details of all the sites were handed to Fisher by Maton across the table. I can't remember the precise figures but I'm sure Fisher wanted 75-90 acres. The available land at Meggitt/Dunlop was around 40-50. Not impossible but difficult. Key thing is, that site is the biggest and it's not big enough.
CJ_covblaze
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Personally, I think the only way we'll move forward is for the respective parties to disregard what the others have said ref: plots of land available, and size of plots required.
Clean slate, identify space, work together to claim space and build place.
(well, as long as it's not anywhere near my garden, anyway
How big is your garden?
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Too small to have a bloody great stadium next to it!
(Even a little 12,000 capacity one!)
shy_tall_knight
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Love the idea of the Butts, great choice of pubs, would be tight but probably a great atmosphere. IMO the only realistic solution is to obtain a 50% joint stake in the Ricoh, will obviously cost millions but long term it will be worth it
olderskyblue
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Personally, I think the only way we'll move forward is for the respective parties to disregard what the others have said ref: plots of land available, and size of plots required.
Clean slate, identify space, work together to claim space and build place.
(well, as long as it's not anywhere near my garden, anyway
I don't think there's any land available along the Kenilworth Road NW....
Kingokings204
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That's the point there isn't any space really. The Ricoh is the space and we need to own that. Yes wasps have it for now but with our promotion and wasps aren't pulling up any trees are they then we could be in a position to do a deal. Long term the only answer is for ccfc to own it.
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Astute
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There were more problems than you state. The main one being was that Fisher said they were going to build with a supermarket chain...on the lines of the Ricoh. But supermarkets are now closing stores not building new ones. So the finances of a new stadium fell apart.
At least Anderson has not made the same mistake as Fisher. He says he will let us know when something is happening but it won't be very soon as there are no plans in place. He doesn't want to get our hopes up for no reason. Then you have Fishers 3 weeks :facepalm:
Astute
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Talk afresh?
Just talking will be a major bonus. We got to where we are because SISU wouldn't talk. It all started when they had an offer accepted for the Higgs share but when it was time to hand over the money it all went tits up. 5.5m became 1m take it or leave it as they said the arena was worthless. And the 1m was because they were a charity. Then they said it was all about the freehold. Freehold or nothing. No negotiations. No talks. They only came to the table when they knew their plans had backfired and it was too late. And it isn't as though just one or two people at CCC has the choice on what happens. It would go to a full vote across all parties. The main differences now would be having Anderson to do some talking and not having the pot of gold available which was the Ricoh.
SkyBlueZack
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Wasps only paid 5.5m for the lot. Yet you think sisu were wrong not to pay 5.5m for half? Not forgetting it would be the club paying wouldn't it? Well that's what people like to say when talking of a new stadium. How sisu will lumber us with millions of debt. How it's all part of their get rich scheme. Yet people advocate us paying over the odds for something we were already paying over the odds for. It's unbelievable
CJ_covblaze
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Wasn't it £1m and nothing towards the loan?
CJ_covblaze
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£2m was the offer for the whole lot.
stupot07
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Nope, they never made an offer for the whole lot. They only had negotiations with Higgs for their share.
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/sisu-v-higgs-court-battle-6914945
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Whatever...what happened and whose fault it was is now irrelevant. We should look at it through Andersen's eyes. He is a statistician and expert on data analysis. Whether we do a deal with Wasps ( doing a deal with their investors indirectly) or build our own stadium ( which means doing a deal with our investors ) is dependant on CA's statistical predictions. These predictions will be based largely on attendance figures, which in turn will be effected by stadium location. The predicted attendance figures will be correlated to the income they bring ( plus stadium incomes ) minus the cost of renting the stadium from either Wasps or our investors. That is why CA needs this meeting with Wasps. TF will probably have some scenarios already calculated ( which will need checking by CA ). IMO
Nick
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Was it? That was for half wasn't it?
stupot07
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Yes, half. Higgs half.
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Gynnsthetonic
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Hearsall Common!
mechaishida
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Or they could level Wood End and stick it there.
Astute
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Try reading again what I said.
It was more about not wanting to negotiate. It was take it or leave it. They devalued the arena using us as pawns by taking us to Northampton. Them w@nkers from London negotiated and got what should have been ours. And also there is no need for a change in who runs CCC as it goes through all parties. They all voted against what SISU tried to do. Now SISU have brought someone new in that can start with a clean slate, although I would guess that it will be used more as a bargaining tool with Wasps than looking for a large plot of land that would have to be paid for as well as all build costs.
CJ_covblaze
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There was an offer for £2m. Like you said though, back on topic.
CJ_covblaze
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Ideal. A circus for 365 days a year rather than 30.