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SkyBlueDom26

SkyBlueDom26

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Will be interesting to see if trump and Putin end up falling out or the relationship gets stronger after all of this. If they fall out I reckon it’s ww3
 
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PVA

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Sick Boy said:
As has been said many, many times...it's America, what else were you expecting to happen?
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And as I've said many times, the US siding with one of their main adversaries, which they've spent the last 3 years helping to destroy their army, is a big deal.
 
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wingy

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PVA said:
And as I've said many times, the US siding with one of their main adversaries, which they've spent the last 3 years helping to destroy their army, is a big deal.
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The dollar's weaker though I think, this is the final throws,all this outlandish stuff is I guess to be expected, don't know what will happen with any of it but.
 
Sick Boy

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PVA said:
And as I've said many times, the US siding with one of their main adversaries, which they've spent the last 3 years helping to destroy their army, is a big deal.
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It's got zero relevance to them exploiting Ukraine, which was always inevitable.
 
chiefdave

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SkyBlueDom26 said:
Will be interesting to see if trump and Putin end up falling out or the relationship gets stronger after all of this. If they fall out I reckon it’s ww3
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At the moment Putin's playing him like a fiddle. They're openly mocking him in Russian state media and celebrating how Putin is getting everything his way. The question will be what happens if and when the penny drops with Trump.
 
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wingy

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chiefdave said:
At the moment Putin's playing him like a fiddle. They're openly mocking him in Russian state media and celebrating how Putin is getting everything his way. The question will be what happens if and when the penny drops with Trump.
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It won't matter.
 
Grendel

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chiefdave said:
At the moment Putin's playing him like a fiddle. They're openly mocking him in Russian state media and celebrating how Putin is getting everything his way. The question will be what happens if and when the penny drops with Trump.
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Trump clearly wants an alliance with Putin - its nothing to do with being played
 
Grendel

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SBT said:
Trump’s desire for an alliance is precisely why he’s so vulnerable to being played.
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It really isn't - in the end Putin is zero threat to the US - its a tinpot regime.

Trump sees Europe as an irrelevance. He sees Russia and China as the only countries where there is both opportunity and also threat
 
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SBT

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Grendel said:
It really isn't - in the end Putin is zero threat to the US - its a tinpot regime.

Trump sees Europe as an irrelevance. He sees Russia and China as the only countries where there is both opportunity and also threat
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He sees Russia as a threat even though Putin is zero threat? Do you want to have another go?
 
Grendel

Grendel

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SBT said:
He sees Russia as a threat even though Putin is zero threat? Do you want to have another go?
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Er no - what threat is Putin to the US?

Russia is the opportunity and China is the threat
 
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PVA

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Putin clearly does not want WW3. If he did, he’d have started it by now.

If he went to war with the US his army would be vaporised before the US had barely put a boot on the ground.
 
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PVA

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Ah yes, 'elections'.


Vladimir Putin has been talking about the war in Ukraine overnight.

His latest suggestion is for the country to be put under a temporary administration to allow for elections.

This, he said, would then pave the way for peace.

"In principle, of course, a temporary administration could be introduced in Ukraine under the auspices of the UN, the United States, European countries and our partners," Putin was quoted as saying, during a visit to a new nuclear submarine.

"This would be in order to hold democratic elections and bring to power a capable government enjoying the trust of the people and then to start talks with them about a peace treaty."
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Sick Boy

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I saw a billboard yesterday that would have made @PVA crash his Tesla. I will try to share a picture of it next week…if it’s still there.
 
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PVA

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Sick Boy said:
I saw a billboard yesterday that would have made @PVA crash his Tesla. I will try to share a picture of it next week…if it’s still there.
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Can't crash if I've got autopilot on

Think About It GIF by Identity
 
fatso

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SBT said:
The Trump administration’s own intelligence agencies released a big report on it this week, why don’t you read it first and come back when you’ve got your story straight?

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Ffs mate, how fucking naive are you???
Of fucking course they are going to big up Putin"s threat to the US and Europe, how the fuck else are they going to justify the exorbitant defence spending?? How are they going to milk the tax payers otherwise??? How do they keep the big money contracts rolling in without a big bad guy in the world???

If its not Putin it's China, or Nortn Korea and if its not them they'd have to invent one.
But there will always be one.

The American government is 36 trillion dollars in debt, that equates to 100,000 dollars for every man, woman and child in the country.
If they don't raise the debt ceiling even higher, then by August they won't be able to pay the public sector, and will default on their debt. That will lead to a global meltdown of epic proportions.
They need a bad guy in the world to maintain defence jobs and keep employment levels high.

Trump is trying to address that, and he's doing it by ramping up their economy, the tariffs will ultimately lead to renegotiated trade deals, Increased NATO spending will be on American made arms, and equipment.

Remaining tarifs on China will see global companies move their manufacturing facilities back to America to gain access to that market. All of which will mean jobs for American workers and tax dollars for the government.

Trump has been open and upfront about the plan from the day he announced he'd run for office. It's even called" M.A.G.A." for fuck sake.
How much more obvious can it be?

Reading so much bollocks on here from people who don't understand or hear what he's said is hilarious.
 
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fatso

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Brighton Sky Blue

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fatso said:
Ffs mate, how fucking naive are you???
Of fucking course they are going to big up Putin"s threat to the US and Europe, how the fuck else are they going to justify the exorbitant defence spending?? How are they going to milk the tax payers otherwise??? How do they keep the big money contracts rolling in without a big bad guy in the world???

If its not Putin it's China, or Nortn Korea and if its not them they'd have to invent one.
But there will always be one.

The American government is 36 trillion dollars in debt, that equates to 100,000 dollars for every man, woman and child in the country.
If they don't raise the debt ceiling even higher, then by August they won't be able to pay the public sector, and will default on their debt. That will lead to a global meltdown of epic proportions.
They need a bad guy in the world to maintain defence jobs and keep employment levels high.

Trump is trying to address that, and he's doing it by ramping up their economy, the tariffs will ultimately lead to renegotiated trade deals, Increased NATO spending will be on American made arms, and equipment.

Remaining tarifs on China will see global companies move their manufacturing facilities back to America to gain access to that market. All of which will mean jobs for American workers and tax dollars for the government.

Trump has been open and upfront about the plan from the day he announced he'd run for office. It's even called" M.A.G.A." for fuck sake.
How much more obvious can it be?

Reading so much bollocks on here from people who don't understand or hear what he's said is hilarious.
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In your view, does awarding trillions of dollars worth of tax cuts to the rich and big business do more harm or good to the US budget deficit?

Also-how was cancelling money for children’s cancer research part of making America great again?
 
shmmeee

shmmeee

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
In your view, does awarding trillions of dollars worth of tax cuts to the rich and big business do more harm or good to the US budget deficit?

Also-how was cancelling money for children’s cancer research part of making America great again?
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Nooo the worlds strongest ever economy will die if we don’t sack park rangers 😭
 
fatso

fatso

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
In your view, does awarding trillions of dollars worth of tax cuts to the rich and big business do more harm or good to the US budget deficit?

Also-how was cancelling money for children’s cancer research part of making America great again?
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I've no idea, you'll need to ask Trump that one.

Maybe he's doing it to ensure businesses don't move abroad after the tarif situation?
Maybe he's repaying his campaign backers, who knows?

Politics is a very dirty business.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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fatso said:
I've no idea, you'll need to ask Trump that one.

Maybe he's doing it to ensure businesses don't move abroad after the tarif situation?
Maybe he's repaying his campaign backers, who knows?

Politics is a very dirty business.
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Well, it is when a total moron lets the world's richest man run riot at the Treasury.
 
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