Match Thread Hull City - Coventry City Match Thread - Monday 14th Apr (5 Viewers)

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David O'Day

David O'Day

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SkyBlue_Adam said:
I didn’t say it should. But it is, and if we are finding out pre game- Hull 100% already know too
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why? no one at the club is telling hull our team

if they do find out it would be via the same way we would fund out so if no one actually posted the info or passed it n they would not know

unless you are saying someone at the club is leaking directly to the opposition which is serious
 
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skybluejeff

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mmttww said:
I think the Sunderland game made us think Wright was the answer through the middle and Allen should be starting. Don't think games since proved that.

Simms is more effective as the battering ram which in every game except Sunderland, has been what the system we play asks of the player in that position.

EMC looked fine in most games recently but I'd have started Simms with Wright on the left tonight even if EMC was fit. Don't think he nailed his spot down.
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I think Simms up top, should potentially help the defence because he should be able to hold the ball up better than Wright.
 
skybluecam

skybluecam

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SkyBlue_Adam said:
It’s very naive to believe that a fans forum will be the source for the opposition ahead of a game
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Why?

Teams would be stupid not to monitor social media and sites like this. Don’t have to take it all at face value, but some extra prep on the likes of Lati in case he is starting would be pretty valuable I imagine.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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If my club has a chess fixture and I know in advance who my opponent is, preparation is obviously easier. If it extended to my opponent telling me what their plan would be, even more so. Doesn’t guarantee me a win, but boosts my chances.

It’s naive not to think in a super high stakes sport with multi million pound squads that people won’t try to get whatever competitive edge they can. So whoever in the club is doing it needs some discipline
 
ccfcricoh

ccfcricoh

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lets just say Ruben Selles did spend his Sunday evening browsing SBT and knows about our "potential" injuries.

He has no idea what changes Frank would make, and he's working with a squad of players who are 20th, so there's unlikely much he can do with the news anyway

We are too good for them and should beat them, we have too much quality with or without injuries

Cue 2.1 loss and the whole Hull team picking on Thomas' replacement whilst not playing a right back because they know EMC is out as well
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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ccfcricoh said:
lets just say Ruben Selles did spend his Sunday evening browsing SBT and knows about our "potential" injuries.

He has no idea what changes Frank would make, and he's working with a squad of players who are 20th, so there's unlikely much he can do with the news anyway

We are too good for them and should beat them, we have too much quality with or without injuries

Cue 2.1 loss and the whole Hull team picking on Thomas' replacement whilst not playing a right back because they know EMC is out as well
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As an educated guess, Wright goes out on the left, Simms down the middle and Lati at RCB. We don’t have that many options either.
 
SkyBlue_Adam

SkyBlue_Adam

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David O'Day said:
why? no one at the club is telling hull our team

if they do find out it would be via the same way we would fund out so if no one actually posted the info or passed it n they would not know

unless you are saying someone at the club is leaking directly to the opposition which is serious
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What I mean is, people leaking things from the club aren’t just going to Saddle and stopping there

And going back to football being a small world, we face Kasey Palmer tonight. His best mate is our Left Back, you would think they would have spoken about the game (not accusing Dasilva of leaking info)
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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SkyBlue_Adam said:
What I mean is, people leaking things from the club aren’t just going to Saddle and stopping there

And going back to football being a small world, we face Kasey Palmer tonight. His best mate is our Left Back, you would think they would have spoken about the game (not accusing Dasilva of leaking info)
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Likewise Waghorn had lots of mates at Derby he’d have spoken to.
 
skybluecam

skybluecam

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ccfcricoh said:
lets just say Ruben Selles did spend his Sunday evening browsing SBT and knows about our "potential" injuries.

He has no idea what changes Frank would make, and he's working with a squad of players who are 20th, so there's unlikely much he can do with the news anyway

We are too good for them and should beat them, we have too much quality with or without injuries

Cue 2.1 loss and the whole Hull team picking on Thomas' replacement whilst not playing a right back because they know EMC is out as well
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Such a naïve view of championship football. You don't think Hull will be doing plenty of player specific prep work?
 
Covkid1968#

Covkid1968#

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Lamps said:
What an entertaining read this was 😁

It would take a very brave manager to choose his team because of what an anonymous person has said on a website full of idiots arguing with each other. Especially if he looks back a bit further and sees people taking the p1ss for him getting things wrong 😂
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Ffs… idiots???? . Surely you must know that there are numerous experts on SBT from multiple disiplines. From physiotherapists to experts in contagious diseases to sports psychologists. If I need a view on something really important in any area of life … I just pop on here.
 
shepardo01

shepardo01

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SkyBlue_Adam said:
What I mean is, people leaking things from the club aren’t just going to Saddle and stopping there

And going back to football being a small world, we face Kasey Palmer tonight. His best mate is our Left Back, you would think they would have spoken about the game (not accusing Dasilva of leaking info)
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This.
Players have friends in the game. They will talk.
 
skybluecam

skybluecam

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Gibbo said:
I knew somebody would say that. He only played 5-3-2 until people returned from injury and I think it was what he inherited.

He is a down the line 4-3-3 man. It was said before he arrived and has proved so since. He is not like Robins who pulled the odd rabbit out of the hat. You see his lack of flexibility in the use of subs; he's even worse than Robins. Prem managers regularly make a change at half time.
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Wrong. He's an elite tactician, Doug told us so.
 
Gibbo

Gibbo

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Lamps said:
Are
Are you saying that you don't think Lampard is a good manager?
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I think the jury is out.

We are still well within the honeymoon period of 'New Manager Bounce'. We are playing a bit better - faster transition from defence to attack in particular, but have relied on some late late winners to get us a victory. Without the four since Bristol (the start of the good run) we would be 11th and regarding Frank as a bit meh, having dragged us up a mere 5 places.

But weaknesses highlighted by Derby fans are beginning to show - inflexible, not so good when things run against you. Bit like he was as a player.

You will not have a complete opinion until the first 10-15 games next season.
 
Covcraig@bury

Covcraig@bury

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Covkid1968# said:
Ffs… idiots???? . Surely you must know that there are numerous experts on SBT from multiple disiplines. From physiotherapists to experts in contagious diseases to sports psychologists. If I need a view on something really important in any area of life … I just pop on here.
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Anyone know the best cure for piles ? Asking for a friend 🥴
 
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wingy

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KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Not really, they're two entirely different distinctions.

By me saying it's not a massive blow that's me saying that while there's a negative impact, it's not a catastrophic one. Saying it's not an issue means there's no issue whatsoever.

Thomas being out is a massive blow as there's no replacement apart from Lati and Binks who shouldn't be anywhere a starting XI unless absolutely necessary.

And well done you've just repeated exactly what I just said. If Wright remains injury free I don't think it's much of an issue. That's not to say I don't think it's non-ideal as we'll need rotation in the final stretch. But it's not a catastrophe.
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It's an improvement for me!
 
TomRad85

TomRad85

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Gibbo said:
I think the jury is out.

We are still well within the honeymoon period of 'New Manager Bounce'. We are playing a bit better - faster transition from defence to attack in particular, but have relied on some late late winners to get us a victory. Without the four since Bristol (the start of the good run) we would be 11th and regarding Frank as a bit meh, having dragged us up a mere 5 places.

But weaknesses highlighted by Derby fans are beginning to show - inflexible, not so good when things run against you. Bit like he was as a player.

You will not have a complete opinion until the first 10-15 games next season.
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What are you on about? Ignoring the stuff about the jury being out because late winners don't count for some reason... he was an absolutely fantastic player.
 
Gibbo

Gibbo

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Saddlebrains said:
I've not said anything on twitter, never do with any ITK stuff just share it on here
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I also suspect the opposition are much more concerned about formation than actual players. They will not change their approach just because it is Lati or Binks rather than Thomas.

Every team is missing players now, this just a test of a manager's mettle
 
Liquid Gold

Liquid Gold

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Frank Lampard:

FWA Footballer of the Year: 2005
PFA Team of the Year: 3 times
Premier League Player of the Month: 4 times
Chelsea Player of the Year: 3 times
FIFA World Player of the Year (Silver Award): 2005 (runner-up to Ronaldinho)
Ballon d'Or Runner-Up: 2005
Chelsea’s All-Time Leading Goalscorer: 211 goals
Most goals by a Premier League midfielder: 177
Only midfielder to score 10+ goals in 10 consecutive PL seasons
Over 100 Premier League assists
Played over 1,000 professional games across club and country

Winner of
Premier League x 3
FA Cup x 4
League Cup x 2
Champions League
Europa League

But yeah, apart from that. Not so good when things are against him.
 
Gibbo

Gibbo

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TomRad85 said:
What are you on about? Ignoring the stuff about the jury being out because late winners don't count for some reason... he was an absolutely fantastic player.
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He was a highly inflexible player. In the contest with Gerrard, it was always Gerrard (the better and more varied player) who had to give way because Lampard could only do one thing - attacking midfield - but was no good in a defensive role. At least Gerrard could do that, or had to completely give way to a specialist defensive midfielder like Gareth Barry. Formation was drive in part by Lampard's limitations
 
Gibbo

Gibbo

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Liquid Gold said:
Frank Lampard:

FWA Footballer of the Year: 2005
PFA Team of the Year: 3 times
Premier League Player of the Month: 4 times
Chelsea Player of the Year: 3 times
FIFA World Player of the Year (Silver Award): 2005 (runner-up to Ronaldinho)
Ballon d'Or Runner-Up: 2005
Chelsea’s All-Time Leading Goalscorer: 211 goals
Most goals by a Premier League midfielder: 177
Only midfielder to score 10+ goals in 10 consecutive PL seasons
Over 100 Premier League assists
Played over 1,000 professional games across club and country

Winner of
Premier League x 3
FA Cup x 4
League Cup x 2
Champions League
Europa League

But yeah, apart from that. Not so good when things are against him.
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It's a team game
 
fernandopartridge

fernandopartridge

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Gibbo said:
He was a highly inflexible player. In the contest with Gerrard, it was always Gerrard (the better and more varied player) who had to give way because Lampard could only do one thing - attacking midfield - but was no good in a defensive role. At least Gerrard could do that, or had to completely give way to a specialist defensive midfielder like Gareth Barry. Formation was drive in part by Lampard's limitations
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Hardly, Gerrard got 114 caps to Lampard's 106. The simple fact is that successive England managers felt it worth playing them both because they were both world class central midfielders.
 
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SBT

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David O'Day said:
unless you are saying someone at the club is leaking directly to the opposition which is serious
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The irony is that if one of our players or club staff was found to have leaked team info online then it would most likely become a major scandal and have people questioning their loyalty etc. Whereas fans leaking the same info becomes some kind of badge of honour/public service.
 
Briles

Briles

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SBT said:
The irony is that if one of our players or club staff was found to have leaked team info online then it would most likely become a major scandal and have people questioning their loyalty etc. Whereas fans leaking the same info becomes some kind of badge of honour/public service.
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I'm pretty sure that all staff/players know stuff will be leaked. It's not like it's down to people with binoculars in a bush anymore. If a players injured he isn't sworn to secrecy by the GDPR fairy.
 
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