Trump is my favourite comedian of the year already (5 Viewers)
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I honestly don't think it's possible.....Do I think Trump's DOJ can weaponize election law to make swing states borderline uncompetitive for the Democrats? Absolutely. Do I think Don Jr can still be considered a viable candidate in that environment? No. And I don't think elections are going to be suspended anytime soon either.
Brighton Sky Blue
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I honestly don't see why he would choose to do that and trigger the inevitable economic catastrophe it would cause (which is the answer to your question).
Captain Dart
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A conspiracy theory if ever I heard one.
Otis
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Too Drunk To Give a F*ck to be honest.
Grendel
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Brighton Sky Blue
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On that note, who won the 2020 election?A conspiracy theory if ever I heard one.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Fair play to Harvard for standing up to the pig
www.bbc.co.uk
Trump threatens Harvard's tax-exempt status after freezing $2bn funding
Universities, as well as many charities and religious groups, are exempted from paying federal income taxes.
www.bbc.co.uk
Brighton Sky Blue
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Need some more Sieg Heiling professors
shmmeee
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What does that even mean? Is it politically diverse so every English department must have a libertarian a communist a centrist dad and a neo Nazi? Or must every physics department got to have someone who thinks it’s all held together by fairies?
Flying Fokker
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Flying Fokker
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Saw this:
Yesterday I bought a bagel for $3.
Now I have a $3 trade deficit with the bagel shop! So I'm imposing a 145% reciprocal trade tariff on them.
Today my bagel cost me $7.35. Art of the Deal!
Yesterday I bought a bagel for $3.
Now I have a $3 trade deficit with the bagel shop! So I'm imposing a 145% reciprocal trade tariff on them.
Today my bagel cost me $7.35. Art of the Deal!
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Brighton Sky Blue
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I see he now wants to throw US citizens in the torture prison in El Salvador, after already throwing in hundreds of innocent people. This after ignoring the court rulings that people are entitled to due process and a lawyer, and that one of the men they sent who they admitted wasn’t a criminal needed to be brought back.
Totally not a fascist though.
Totally not a fascist though.
chiefdave
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The problem is though how many times can we all go 'that will never happen' and be proved wrong. If you'd have predicted the events of January 6th you would have been told it was ridiculous.
He's in power again yet still banging on about stolen elections. He's ignoring due process and ignoring the supreme court while showing he couldn't care less about crashing the markets.
Is it really that big a leap to think he won't go quietly and gracefully at the end of his term?
Brighton Sky Blue
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One for @Sky Blue Pete
‘And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.’
‘And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.’
I think it’s a big mistake to wildly speculate about elections being suspended (for which there is pretty much no precedent or playbook in modern American history) when there have already been genuine attempts to interfere with the existing election architecture in the US.
If you turn the ‘Trump is a dictator’ dial up to 11 before anything like that has even happened then you don’t leave yourself much room to manoeuvre if/when stuff gets really real.
Sky Blue Pete
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That’s me
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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But it's also stuff you have to prepare for just in case. No point not wanting to be alarmist then having no plan when he actually tries to do it.
Given the ways he tried to get the 2020 election overturned spending five years setting up a suspension of elections isn't completely crazy. Even something like 'wartime' making elections impracticable is an option he may look at.
And while you may talk of checks and balances, those are far from robust and may well be under his influence/control.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Flying Fokker
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Honestly, if the scenario in question is ‘Donald Trump suspends elections so he can install Don Jr as Lord Protector’ then I’m not sure you do.
Time, energy and political capital are finite resources - you don’t activate the Doomsday protocol unless you absolutely have to.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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Which man was sent who wasn't a criminal? Also, which US citizens are they wanting to throw in El Salvador prisons?
Brighton Sky Blue
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This one.
Deportation of Kilmar Abrego Garcia - Wikipedia
Trump has said he wants to throw ‘home grown’ US criminals into the El Salvador prisons.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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This one.
Deportation of Kilmar Abrego Garcia - Wikipedia
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Trump has said he wants to throw ‘home grown’ US criminals into the El Salvador prisons.
Kilmar Ábrego García is a member of the MS-13 gang in El Salvador, and entered the US illegally. The only reason he previously wasn't deported is because he was at risk of being murdered by another gang. With the new prisons and clean up that has been done in that country, he is unlikely to meet this fate now. There doesn't seem to be much desire for either country to put him on a plane back - which probably says a lot.
As for putting US criminals in jails in other countries, I don't know. Several countries have agreements to send prisoners abroad to other countries around the world, so I don't think it is that outrageous. A bigger problem for me is the reoffending rate from being in prison. I think it is even worse in the USA than the UK. It seems the system isn't really working and probably needs to be reviewed in general.
Brighton Sky Blue
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He objectively isn’t a gang member. Though not surprised you’re repeating the lies coming from the WH on the subject.
Even if he is, he’s entitled to due process at least. The way it’s worked, the state simply declares you a criminal and sends you off to a foreign prison. Do you not see anything dangerous about that?
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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How do you know he isn't a gang member? I know you want to bash Trump all day unchallenged, but you are making yourself look very silly. Neither country wants to send him back to the US, and the fact he wasn't deported previously because he was at risk of being attacked by other gangs pretty much confirms his ties to MS-13. It wasn't because he was a lollypop man who wore a strange colour jacket and was disliked.
One of the biggest problems we have in the world today is that we have too many scumbags, and too much sympathy for them. We were only talking about Hashem Abedi and the Manchester Arena attacks five minutes ago. He shouldn't have been in the UK.
It seems odd to me that you want to fight for the rights of these people.
chiefdave
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Surely you can see the issue? Irrespective of how he entered the country he wasn't at this point of arrest in the country illegally.
ICE arrested him on the way home from work claiming his status had changed, something even Trump has admitted was false. Despite having never been charged, let alone convicted, of any crime in the US he was then deported. Can you not see an issue with rounding people up on the streets and deporting them without any due process? The supreme court certainly can.
I can't really comment on your claim that there has been a clean up & new prisons but one of the American judges described it as "one of the most notoriously inhumane and dangerous prisons in the world" that "by design, deprives its detainees of adequate food, water, and shelter, fosters routine violence"
Even if you 100% believe he should be locked up do you not believe in due process. Do you think its fine to grab people off the streets and just send them off to another country with no prospect of them ever being returned. Who gets to decide who that applies to?
ICE arrested him on the way home from work claiming his status had changed, something even Trump has admitted was false. Despite having never been charged, let alone convicted, of any crime in the US he was then deported. Can you not see an issue with rounding people up on the streets and deporting them without any due process? The supreme court certainly can.
I can't really comment on your claim that there has been a clean up & new prisons but one of the American judges described it as "one of the most notoriously inhumane and dangerous prisons in the world" that "by design, deprives its detainees of adequate food, water, and shelter, fosters routine violence"
Even if you 100% believe he should be locked up do you not believe in due process. Do you think its fine to grab people off the streets and just send them off to another country with no prospect of them ever being returned. Who gets to decide who that applies to?
Unfortunately, fighting for human rights often involves advocating for people you don’t like or who may not deserve your sympathy.
Sky Blue Pete
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Undesirables?
Sky Blue Pete
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Those deemed undesirable by those in charge yep