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  1. oldskyblue58

    Match Thread ⚽️ Watford vs Coventry City Match Thread - Saturday 5th Nov

    Well that's 6 points from two games didn't think we would get. The whole squad and manager doing us proud. Brilliant 👏 👏 👏
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    Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC

    Her leverage to move away ? The EFL are not going to just let her do it again without proper reason. Failing that its wait 8 years for the stadium fantasy to move the club. Personally i think she will find it hard to play hard ball against someone who swims in the same pool and is arguably a...
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    Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC

    Won't show up on the sisu capital Ltd accounts, they are part of an investment funds for their clients
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    The dom hyam sale

    Boddy said it wasn't for cashflow that he was sold. Could it be that the owners needed to get a chunk of this 4.5m back they apparently put in ?
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    Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC

    I know what you meant, bit like throw a enough "ideas or angles" at a wall and see what sticks .......
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    Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC

    I don't care what her top and bottom figure is if she does indeed want out. It's not the important figure is it. Personally I wouldn't pay more than 30m tops for the assets listed. But I would never buy a football club in the first place.
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    Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC

    It's not about what she wants anymore if she wants out. Sisu are in a hole with limited options. Everyone knows that. Anyone looking at buying the club will purchase the following not the shares. The right to play golden share The playing squad The training ground on a current use basis...
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    Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC

    £57m in actual money they have invested in CCFC no. In terms of manufactured debt i should imagine its well north of £100m if you add in the pseudo manufactured debt of the preference shares the £28.6m (a) wasnt all put as cash <at best around £18m> and (b) sits in SBS&L not Otium without being...
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    Mike Ashley

    Is it a secure tenancy ? Or is it a licence? Or a mix of both? We don't know. Are the lease termination rules applicable who knows Looking at it logically an owner of the stadium would want the football club to be there a lot longer than the next 8 years. No point charging an unaffordable rent...
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    Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC

    From Ashley's point of view his best outcome is to buy us now or before January because?
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    Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC

    But it's not like they didn't understand the concept of a prepack and the need to take time to set it up...... its pretty much what happened in 2014 when they moved ccfc to otium. Also in all the recent discussions the prospect of it never came up ??? More inclined to believe they simply...
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    Time to put pressure on SISU?

    I think it still stands. it is an asset of ACL or whatever company ends up with those assets. It is just changing ownership of the head lease really to which the sub leases are attached. I dont think anyone coming in can change the terms of the lease, unless the lease contract with CCFC...
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    Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC

    their preferred bidder who now holds sufficient cards to drive the price of the club he wants to pay down
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    Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC

    Not doubting their intelligence or skills, but right now everyone seems to be looking at things as a CCFC fan desperate for change. No doubt if ACL sale goes through SISU have backed themselves in to a hole and their negotiation cards are fewer
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    Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC

    it would be 51% of the ordinary share capital and interest is not charged on shares, and no dividend available because of no distributable profits. Not to mention the £65m in preference shares sitting there that get rights to dividends first I can not see why any one would buy into Otium wholly...
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    Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC

    Simply misjudged it or havent got access to the funds for this particular project. Now the lease assignment agreed in principle and subject to final sign off, which was why CCC was involved and the timing of the ACL administration announcement, SISU and every other bidder is out of the equation...
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    Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC

    SISU seem to have a history of arriving at the party too late or even the wrong party Not sure why we need Hoffman involved, personally I wouldn't want him to be.
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    Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC

    just a few thoughts & guesses of course ACL filed for administration there is a deal on the table and the preferred bidder & ACL need to be in control of it. Who else would file that wasnt a threat? I dont think it will take too long to sort out from here assuming no hidden skeletons. If i...
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    Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC

    looks like a prepack situation. Assignment of the lease(s) have been agreed with CCC I am sure, just waiting exchange i would think. That together with stating a preferred bidder pretty much says to anyone else interested that they are wasting their time. Of course something could crawl out of...
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