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  1. duffer

    Gathering for Tommy / Discontent

    I'd politely disagree mate, though I absolutely understand your point of view. This is a situation born almost entirely out of hatred and misinformation spread on social media. There have to be severe consequences for people who do it, as much as anything else to dissuade anyone else from...
  2. duffer

    Gathering for Tommy / Discontent

    Sorry, not quite accurate. The warrant is paused until October. Playing the court system for time and wasting taxpayers money. It's an outrage, I tell ya, an outrage. Send him back to where he came from. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjerxd00rlxo
  3. duffer

    Gathering for Tommy / Discontent

    He's got an outstanding warrant hasn't he, contempt of court? If so, if have thought he'll get nicked at the airport/port as soon as he arrives. At least it's hope so. I think he might find a few charges added to the sheet too...
  4. duffer

    Gathering for Tommy / Discontent

    Let me know where you're meeting, mate. Hands off our football! And remember, no face, no case. 😁 (I'm wearing trainers though. I don't have to outrun the police dog, I just have to outrun you.)
  5. duffer

    Gathering for Tommy / Discontent

    Probably not, but if you're pitching it as a racist hate crime, why didn't they go after every white bloke in the pub? Have you seen the full video, it looks like the bloke (who is the only one visible outside the pub) is waving his arms around and shouting at the arseholes outside. Maybe he...
  6. duffer

    Gathering for Tommy / Discontent

    Maybe, but I'd guess you wouldn't want to risk a certain conviction for an uncertain one if it's borderline. Attacking mosques and spraying racist graffiti on the hotel you're trying to burn down though, that's an open goal.
  7. duffer

    Gathering for Tommy / Discontent

    We've still got that barge, haven't we? 🙂 But yes, I'd guess that some current offenders are going to get out a bit earlier than they might've done. That's going to upset the far right.
  8. duffer

    Gathering for Tommy / Discontent

    I suppose the argument is, if it was racially motivated, why didn't they attack everyone else in the pub? Were they chanting, we hate whites/christians, or fuck the EDL? There's a difference. I also think racially motivated is a higher bar (and gets a longer sentence). It's obvious if you're...
  9. duffer

    Gathering for Tommy / Discontent

    Not to get sidetracked, but there are two types of electric bikes. The legal ones, that fat knackers like me would use. They're limited to about 15 mph then the motor kicks out. That's not much quicker than an average bike in truth. Then there are electric bikes that are far higher powered...
  10. duffer

    Gathering for Tommy / Discontent

    There's hope then. I want to see that little shit on the ANPR THIS illegal electric bike in front of the beak in short order too. I doubt he's escaped plod's notice. I think he might be looking for new wheels after a little breather in youth custody when they catch up with him. And they will...
  11. duffer

    Gathering for Tommy / Discontent

    Sounds like you need to join a union mate. Shall I send you an application form. 😁
  12. duffer

    Trump is my favourite comedian of the year already

    Count Binface would've been a better pick than Vance. I suppose if Trump picked someone normal, it would just make him look even weirder by comparison. Apparently Republicans don't like him being called weird, so that's going to stick, I think.
  13. duffer

    Gathering for Tommy / Discontent

    Do you get a bonus if you can tip us into using the c-word? 😄
  14. duffer

    Gathering for Tommy / Discontent

    Over here we've got wheelie bins. In the U.S. there are 400 million guns, give or take. If I was Musk, I'd be a bit more careful about stoking civil war. He might want to read up on French (or Russian, or Chinese) history, and see how it worked out for the rich and pampered.
  15. duffer

    Gathering for Tommy / Discontent

    Just in terms of policing numbers in general, it's a lot lower than people realise. Put it this way, if there's a moderately serious incident in Coventry, not a riot, just standard police stuff, and another one comes in at the same time, they'll be stretched. One or two cars have to cover a...
  16. duffer

    Gathering for Tommy / Discontent

    They were there, Nick. There was at least one van there from very early on. What they weren't, was visible. That bit I can't answer. It could be they had loads of officers just around the corner (not unusual in public order situations) or it could be that they actually thought it would pass...
  17. duffer

    Gathering for Tommy / Discontent

    And the problem is, the police have to take all of those threats seriously, and allocate resources. Then if some knob posts something about attacking a mosque, there's the reaction from the other side to try to cover too. It's a nightmare for the police, I still think getting a lid on social...
  18. duffer

    Gathering for Tommy / Discontent

    Anyway, without getting pulled back into this today, is that what would be helpful would be the police in Birmingham explaining why they were so low profile. I don't believe two tier policing is really a thing. When you're substantially outmanned, the job is always going to be to contain rather...
  19. duffer

    Gathering for Tommy / Discontent

    Not quite with you mate. Is that the Hareshill thing again, you mean?
  20. duffer

    Gathering for Tommy / Discontent

    Hareshill: This is literally the verbatim response of the Police Officer with thirty years experience of public order: "The circumstances in Harehills were very different. “It started out looking like a standard call that many officers will go to, an incident at an address with social services...
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