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What are you basing that on?

You've used some silly examples that aren't real, I can't think of any actual law that would seem so silly that I'd selectively disregard it.

Because it'd be the law. Apart from the damage to my life e.g. losing job etc if I got a criminal record through usage, you can't pick and choose what laws you obey. None of us can sit there and say "well, it's not hurting anyone so I'll do it even though it's against the rules". I hate it when...

Yes.

Or people could just obey the law, that'd be helpful.

No one apart from the two lads who got punched in the face

I don't - of course anyone would condemn poor behaviour, it's not for the Trust to make a condemnatory statement every time someone acts like a pillock.

Alright lads, me and Smiley are going to drive from Lincoln to Cambridge a week on Sat - if you want a lift let me know, pickup either from city centre (uphill) at about 10.30 or en route south (picking up Smiley in south Lincoln) towards the A1 from there.

If I'd have seen it I would have done so myself!

Thank God CBA (Freddie Eastwood) wasn't there, he'd not just nick the beer, it would the the pies, the pizzas, burgers, Branston pickle, everything!

I haven't heard of any such thing (someone being punched for shaking hands with TF), certainly not on Saturday - have a look at my previous posts and also Rob S's account and that isn't mentioned. Maybe it was one of the issues being discussed by Steve Brown? One thing I was told, which Rob S...

The mate who had his beers nicked also had his £100 sunnies knocked off his person in the melee, they also jumped on the train when it arrived and he didn't notice until afterwards, so he was more seething than you'd think for the sake of couple of tinnies.

No harm done other than a couple of beers nicked and the odd fat lip!

You can see the ruckus right at the end of the video as the train pulls in, including punches being thrown. Apparently no police action was taken in terms of arrests, investigations, statements although I may be wrong. Think the police broke it up and sent everyone on their way.

No that's not legal either.

See my comment above. Just because something was legal doesn't make it right. But you have to obey the laws of the day i.e. it doesn't mean something illegal now is right .

That would mean that usage and consumption would increase - that's the opposite of what's needed.

Drove past this pub on the way but didn't see any trouble...in fact, didn't see any Chesterfield fans at all despite lots of CCFC being on display. This was at about 1.15 though so long before the incident took place.

Just because something's legal doesn't make it OK. But then, just because some legal things are not OK doesn't mean that the law doesn't matter. Illegal = there's something wrong with it. We don't get to pick and choose which laws we think are OK to disregard.

By "all other countries" you mean a minority of countries, right? I stick by my point, by definition, if something is against the law then there is something wrong with it....by very definition.