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Story of our season, flashes of looking good but not particularly threatening, the opposition get in behind and create an absolute beauty of a chance, pathetic defending 1-0 down.

My worry is, the box has only really worked with Jamie Allen making those 3rd man runs behind the striker. Neither Torp nor Rudoni are that type of player.

He's hardly going to slag him off 🤣

Looks like the return of the box midfield.

That's not the criticism. Its that it wasn't the huge achievement you and others are trying to make out. It was par for the squad he had. Since that season he has been in decline, sacked by Chelsea, took Everton from 16th in the league to 19th in the league and sacked as the second worst manager...

100% not one person has said that.

Guess the successful premier league manager, checks notes Previous top 6 finish in the championship...no Previous top 4 finish in the PL....no Previous fa cup win....no Managed in the Champions league...no Must be shit then.

It doesn't at all.

That would only have made sense of he had failed in his last 2 appointments and been out of a job for 18 months. Hiddink did a decent job as did Koeman at Southampton, Gullit was good at Chelsea,

I don't want any appointment to fail, but there's just something about the Lampard thing that doesn't feel right.

In his first season, he then got the following season in January with the side in 9th.

He failed and got sacked in his second season at Chelsea. League only: Derby - season 1 - achieved about par for the squad he had. Left Chelsea - season 1 - achieved about par for the squad he had Chelsea - season 2 - got sacked January, with Chelsea massively under achieving, in 9th place...

Hamer player manager?

What he should have done is taken the chance over the last 18 months to go and gain some experience and be a number 2 to someone. This is where I have more respect for the likes of Keane and RVN, they have gone and done the hard yards as an assistant at a number of places. Frank did about 12-18...

And wasn't it just 2 draws as well?

It He is statistically the second worst manager in Everton's history.

That's where I am with it. Derby - Lampard is a genius and an amazing manager Chelsea - Lampard is a genius and an amazing manager Everton - absolutely nothing Lampard or anyone could have done. Can't place any blame on Lampard. Chelsea - absolutely nothing Lampard or anyone could have done...

The same people bigging up the Chelsea and Derby seasons (I think they are about par for what you'd expect given the talent at his disposal) are absolving him of any responsibility for his last two appointments that were complete failures.

🤣🤣🤣 Of course he has some credit. I'm just saying that he's been fortunate to have bad a conveyor belt of top young talent, that have been good enough to be given a chance. Is it robin's fault that Andrews isn't at the level yet or Ryan Howley who can't even start at a Scottish div 2 side? They...

You still have to be good enough.