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Ryton really isn't fit for purpose. Not much we can do about it in the short term so just got toake the best of it. When loan players from big clubs first rock up they must feel like they're being punished.

We're a long way from that unfortunately, still 11000 empty seats to fill before this even gets put on the table.

That's all good, but they have to improve the quality. Those prints are terrible.

Absolutely, and what I heard came from a disgruntled employee, so big pinch of salt for me.

I have heard he is a complete control freak and micro manages everything. He has already made enemies across the club and has pissed off some key corporate partners who have walked away. That's what I've been told. I have no agenda against DK tbh and think he has taken some positive steps so...

I know a couple not renewing,.going off to uni. Another group of 4 moved to FZ. Should be a few released.

10-20% season ticket holders won't renew anyway. That's the same as any season. Might be the lower end of that range this season though. I'm hearing a lot of availability in the premium zone. Lots have either moved or haven't renewed, suggesting they are waiting for ticket release. Blocks 19...

Nobody has said this though. There is universal acceptance that prices needed to rise. The issue is the sudden increase and questions about value when the facilities are absolutely dog shit when compared with other clubs. I've seen plenty of plenty people on this thread label those in corporate...

That comparison makes no sense. It is a season commitment, so it's £40 per game rather than £19, the only difference seemingly some instant coffee and a programme. Ultimately yes, people don't have to pay and I suspect many won't. They may force them to improve the experience, which is...

This would be a disaster. Games where the cheapest available adult ticket (with no family zone) is £35 would surely make us the most expensive in the league. Not sure we've earned the right to do that. People getting giddy thinking that because we sold out for two games that come along maybe...

This is fair, and I am well aware that many clubs are 20K+ for corporate boxes. It is a convenient comparison, but not one you can dismiss entirely. The point is really the sudden hike and where this leaves box holders from previous seasons. This could have been handled better and bridges not...

My understanding was that boxes were 9K ex vat, but could well be wrong on that.

I've seen it said that the average season ticket value last season, owing to all the concessions, was around £220 (£183 less VAT), so around £2.5 million in total. Boxes on their own would have been more than 10% of that, but adding other corporate ST sales, it would be way over 20%.

Big businesses buy boxes at Old Trafford, the 02 Arena or the Oval. They don't get a poxy little converted hotel room at Coventry City, unless there is a strong local connection. If they did, Birmingham City, who have been in the championship forever, would not be knocking out corporate boxes...

Absolute nonsense.

Well I would suggest you're wrong. If you're talking boxes only, and there are around 30, it is significant enough; but we're talking about corporate generally, and there are 1500 people potentially, some paying up to £2000 with no concessions. Overall, revenues from corporate hospitality are...

That's not what I said. Again, nobody has suggested prices should not have increased. The point being argued is that, against a backdrop of inevitable price rises, some gesture was made to those companies that have remained loyal over the years, maybe an incremental increase over 2 seasons...

It's an important and disproportionate revenue source though and this is a big risk imo. I am free to question that even if it doesn't affect me directly.

What does you owning a business have to do with anything?

Again, what's your point?