Duffer I agree with you but WASPS have a pedigree as god as any They won the Heineken Cup in 2003–04 and 2006–07, the Anglo-Welsh Cup in 1999, 2000 and 2006 and the Aviva Premiership in 1990, 1997, 2003, 2004, 2005 and 2008.
They will eventually become established and push out the others not...