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It’s like the businesses who just make their customer service departments impossible to reach so it’s not worth the hassle of complaining. Just complete acceptance that they’re useless.

Yeah I think people’s frustration is that while this is all true Trump won’t help. Like you say though being incumbent is a tough sell.

All the best thanks for engaging.

No two of the four points I agree with but the two that tie in with your arguments seem to have the same flaws.

I did have a 4 which fell of the post which was we need to learn to talk to the other side. Yeah absolutely but people have been trying to have evidenced based discussions all morning and constantly told it’s sneering and talking down to people. It’s really hard to have a conversation if you...

I mean I agree with aspects of what he’s saying but it doesn’t really clear anything up. I’ll respond to the key points 1. Yes people voted based on the economy, that seems clear, but I don’t think Trump is going to have the answers there and the dems aren’t at fault for post Covid inflation -...

From Sky news; “The president-elect has made no secret of his frustration at how the US has for decades bankrolled the security blanket that protects Europe.” This is one I don’t get. The motivation here was that the US have markets to trade with and to stop large scale conflict disrupting the...

You could counter that with Trump having the backing Rogan etc. Think this is a bit of a misconception and leans into the fallacy that it’s some kind of normal man against the elites. There is a huge amount of money behind Trump, institutions favoured the dems though.

I don’t think it’s a shock no the consensus was it was neck and neck but the margin of error could cause an easy win either way. Probably Trump has done slightly better than expected but then the polls had him leading nearly every swing state yesterday. Thst said he was trailing considerably...

Also the people who hate snowflakes but upset an academic on twitter can’t understand their reasoning. The whole argument just comes across as so fragile, insecure and resentful I just can’t understand it. No wonder populism is making a come back.

And the elites online were tweeting into the void.

Be careful not to talk down to people please.

I’m not sure anyone is emotional just fascinated and slightly concerned?

I mean we the posters on here who don’t understand why people vote for Trump. We just want to be proved right, if we cite evidence we’re talking down to people, we’re in an echo chamber etc. whatever “we” say is met with derision.

Yes my point is it doesn’t favour Trump but historically should do. Im not back tracking on anything. They are considered one of the most neutral and evidence based publications, if they have a slight bias it’s pro business/libertarian. However, they still backed Harris and see Trump as not...

We can’t win really can we?

Suspect He will say we need to let China have it in exchange for doing business with them. I know various western nations have tried to start building fabs for semiconductors but don’t think we are anywhere near ready to keep our own industries afloat.

Yeah we are guaranteed some kind of Tory/Reform love in.

No I was suggesting it wasn’t left leaning, which it isn’t. In theory it should favour Trump as their bias is libertarian.

That really will tank the global economy.