I havent got a problem with a competent business running the Ricoh but I (and I hope CCC) have a serious problem with letting an evidently incompetent business own and run it. Seriously how can you call for Sisu ownership with no reference to their record as a business, that is just plain daft.
Invading a country and slaughtering millions of people is slightly different to putting anamosity aside for a company that is in essence trying to stabalise it's business.
Invading a country and slaughtering millions of people is slightly different to putting anamosity aside for a company that is in essence trying to stabalise it's business.
When it's SISU and honestly or clarity of ambition, my prediction of future events based on past behaviour is more akin to predicting that the sun will rise in the morning as I've seen it do nothing else for 40-odd years on this planet.
And I'm sorry, you can't base your opinion on what's best for the club. What's going so damn well now then?
Not knowing where we'll be playing in a fortnight? Not having new kits until October? Stating another season in embargo in the third tier?
What's the reason to be so damn trusting of, and cheery about our owners, eh?
So what would be a fair price for SISU to pay for the Ricoh, say £30m? About what it would cost to build their new stadium.
If SISU had that sort of money and were looking for commercial property to invest it in, they could expect a return of about 6%, i.e. about £1.8m per year. They would have to be pretty clueless to pass up that income potential in order to avoid paying £400k a year rent for the Ricoh.
It's blatantly obvious that SISU don't want a deal unless it involves them being given the Ricoh for free or at a knockdown price.
its not to some fans though,thats just it
some fans hate sisu more than they love ccfc
and that is the saddest part of all this.
its not to some fans though,thats just it
some fans hate sisu more than they love ccfc
and that is the saddest part of all this.
It would be nice if SISU invested in the stadium complex like Compass did, then they can have a better deal.
Fair point - though I might replace 'stabilise its business' for 'hostile takeover'
You seem to be suggesting as a Coventry city fan that you wouldn't want the stadium at a knockdown price. Why?
And some fans, like the abused partner, seem to want to stick with SISU despite the beatings and everyone telling them SISU are no good for them.
That's not to exclude ACL, who are like a lover claiming innocence; 'well it's not my fault SISU beats you up'...
Erm, of course you wont find anything like that on my dating site...:slap:
And some fans, like the abused partner, seem to want to stick with SISU despite the beatings and everyone telling them SISU are no good for them.
That's not to exclude ACL, who are like a lover claiming innocence; 'well it's not my fault SISU beats you up'...
Erm, of course you wont find anything like that on my dating site...:slap:
You seem to be suggesting as a Coventry city fan that you wouldn't want the stadium at a knockdown price. Why?
its not to some fans though,thats just it
some fans hate sisu more than they love ccfc
and that is the saddest part of all this.
I think that every fan would want this. But not with a track record like SISU's.
There's an opportunity for an owner to potentially buy into the Arena, harmonise incomes and build a football club on a stable financial footing. Of course, we all want that.
To turn your question; what gives you the belief that SISU are capable of delivering that?
Feel free, but if a hostile takeover is agreeing to sitting around a table with selected representatives then Die Hard films have been in vain all these years.
No we are saying that because SISU want it at a knock down price there will be no deal. They need to be more realistic and ACL need to release it at what it has cost.
If ACL want to make a profit on it then that is also wrong and will also stand in the way of an agreement.
IMHO SISU want it at the price of an empty stadium with no club so they can sell it at the price of a stadium with a club.
And some fans, like the abused partner, seem to want to stick with SISU despite the beatings and everyone telling them SISU are no good for them.
That's not to exclude ACL, who are like a lover claiming innocence; 'well it's not my fault SISU beats you up'...
Erm, of course you wont find anything like that on my dating site...:slap:
How much do you feel ACL should be looking for Italia out of curiousity?
So shall we continue into oblivion, playing our Football in Northampton with practically 50 followers every game and continue to blame SISU and there record or allow them to make amends and try to recover our once proud status?
I'd be ahppy to wave Tim Fisher off at the earliest oppertunity however one question is there another option at this moment? See the answer is no unless we re-enter the bidding process or come out of Admin and someone makes SISU an offer that they are looking for.
CC4life. It was a bit of(somewhat tasteless) tongue in cheek. Of course I love Cit more than I hate SISU. But I find it hard to accept what they have done to our club.
For me it comes down to this; SISU care about their business per se. They have not shown me that they care about our club. If they have to bleed us dry for the benefit of their overall business, that is what I believe they will do. I find that hard to like. I love City, I hate what (I believe) SISU are doing to us, and it is rather difficult to turn a blind eye
fair enough and i sympathise,but council dont care about the club either. why cant people see that both are scum?
Let me ask you another question; why are SISU back at the negotiating table now? On the face of it, they have an agreement at Northampton - with heavy penalty clauses for a break - and plans on the table for a brand new stadium that will deliver them all the revenues they say they need.
So, why? Fans pressure? The need for the CVA to be signed? Pressure from the FA/FL? Ministerial questions and interest?
Why don't the Council care about the club? I need to get my head round this. SISU will be gone in the future at some point, the Council will always be here, just like the fans.
Let me ask you another question; why are SISU back at the negotiating table now? On the face of it, they have an agreement at Northampton - with heavy penalty clauses for a break - and plans on the table for a brand new stadium that will deliver them all the revenues they say they need.
So, why? Fans pressure? The need for the CVA to be signed? Pressure from the FA/FL? Ministerial questions and interest?
For the price it cost them.
We know how much they paid Higgs so that should be easy.
Blinded by SISU Hate. To allow SISU purchase ownership of the Ricoh would mean the club will benefit greatly.
The best plan now to get rid of SISU is ..............
SISU to bring the CCFC back to the RICOH
SISU to buy the stadium for CCFC. ACL to sell at cost.
The fans to support the team in great numbers and get back into the Championship.
SISU to sell CCFC with stadium.
Life's so easy.
We don't really know if there's another option as SISU were able to dictate their chosen bidder status. I don't believe they'd simply liquidate us and swan off, as they have their investors to answer to, but I appreciate people don't want to take that gamble.
the SISU investment in CCFC has been a financial disaster. Surely they want out ASAP. Owning ACL or 50% of it is not their objective, its the freehold of th stadium to allow them to sell on. But they won't pay the market price.
there has been no positive development regarding these talks, SISU want something that the council own. I think the Cobblers venture is there to put pressure on the council / ACL to resolve this.
The council won't back down.
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