A new CCFC club badge (1 Viewer)

D_Boult · Mar 12, 2018

Hah!

kapowaz said:
That’s a big part of why I thought just make something myself and then if other fans like it, push it in front of the nose of the club. Football club management often seem incapable of running their primary going concern, let alone having the right skills (and good taste) to do stuff like this right. Whenever clubs do manage it you have to wonder how!

You should share some stories about clubs (names redacted to spare the guilty!) you’ve worked with, I’d love to hear those! :cigar:

Ha! It's a small world and some of the clients I still work with... my lips are sealed I'm afraid.

To be fair to clubs I have the same problems with most clients! They pay you and then wonder why you have an opinion on the work! It's a sales job as much as anything else. Anyway, I must away. Again, hats off to you. If I ever get the gumption / time I'll report back!

Skyblueweeman · Mar 12, 2018

I think it's about time we drew up a list of what us Cov fans could be considered experts at:

* Bad jokes
* Arguing
* Apathy
* Strong gif games
* Legal processes
* Hedge Fund knowledge
* Club finances
* Graphic design
* Fondness for ex-players/managers
* Pompey
* '5 things you didn't know about....'

Anything else?

Hadji's_Goatee · Mar 12, 2018

I agree with the comments that it is far too similar to the Man City badge. It's bad enough that ignorant journalists also call them the sky blues - this would only add to the confusion

Captain Dart · Mar 12, 2018

I don't understand the love for the current badge, its cluttered and over complex, too many colours.

Which wag did this one?

kapowaz · Mar 12, 2018

That is amazing. It’s like that gif from Community in CCFC logo form.

Hadji's_Goatee · Mar 12, 2018

Captain Dart said:
I don't understand the love for the current badge, its cluttered and over complex, too many colours.

I would prefer to strip it back to the good old days - just the ball, elephant and castle. That would be a class design approach. I hate to admit it but Spurs did a slick job in 2006 when they did a re-brand job - I think it is the best example to date of a club moving forward by looking back

kapowaz · Mar 12, 2018

Captain Dart said:
I don't understand the love for the current badge, its cluttered and over complex, too many colours.

100%. Both the Eagle and Phoenix look rubbish. The football looks like one of the crap souvenir balls from the old club shop that would turn into an egg as soon as you kicked it. And as you say, way too many colours.

kapowaz · Mar 12, 2018

Hadji's_Goatee said:
I would prefer to strip it back to the good old days - just the ball, elephant and castle.

That’s kind of what I was going for, although then you have to consider whether or not any text will accompany it, or if it would be used image-only. I’d like to have another go at creating a simpler variant of the three elements from the design I shared, but I suspect a lot of people won’t like that it doesn’t mention the name of the club. Unfortunately you can never please everyone with these things.

rondog1973 · Mar 12, 2018

Love our current badge, indeed, have it tattooed on my arm. But I do think it's a little too grandiose for the club strip.

Would love a more simplified version on the kit. The 60's Ball-Elephant-Castle design would be perfect. Spurs have gone back to a bygone design in recent years and I think their Jersey looks a lot more stylish as a consequence.

rondog1973 · Mar 12, 2018

Hadji's_Goatee said:
I would prefer to strip it back to the good old days - just the ball, elephant and castle. That would be a class design approach. I hate to admit it but Spurs did a slick job in 2006 when they did a re-brand job - I think it is the best example to date of a club moving forward by looking back

Ha ha! Was typing whilst you posted!

kapowaz · Mar 12, 2018

I’m going to have to have a go at something along these lines then report back

I have to wonder if this isn’t why the green and black away version is my favourite of the two versions I made...

Hadji's_Goatee · Mar 12, 2018

kapowaz said:
100%. Both the Eagle and Phoenix look rubbish. The football looks like one of the crap souvenir balls from the old club shop that would turn into an egg as soon as you kicked it. And as you say, way too many colours.

The Black Eagle has very very weak links to the city and club, and I'm also not keen the on the Phoenix from the flames. The only reason we retained the bloody thing after the centenary re-design in 1983 was because it plays on the WWII emotions. But take the emotion away and logically it is also nonsense. Lets get back to the roots and put the mythical creatures in the bin.

Hadji's_Goatee · Mar 12, 2018

Here's a good article written in 2010 which explains what each element of the current crest means...

SlowerThanPlatt · Mar 12, 2018

Our badge is one of the best in England, should never be changed unless it’s for a year for an anniversary or something

kapowaz · Mar 12, 2018

Hadji's_Goatee said:
Here's a good article written in 2010 which explains what each element of the current crest means...

Yeah, I was reading this article earlier too, which talks about Leofric’s eagle and the phoenix only being added in 1959, which is so long after the club’s inception as to make them unnecessary in my view.

kapowaz · Mar 12, 2018

Maybe we should add an angry cat on the top though?

Hadji's_Goatee · Mar 12, 2018

kapowaz said:
Yeah, I was reading this article earlier too, which talks about Leofric’s eagle and the phoenix only being added in 1959, which is so long after the club’s inception as to make them unnecessary in my view.

The weirdest thing is that the Monarch who was Leofric was said to of been put to death by red hot poker up his jaxxy - ouch! Again what that has to do with CCFC i'll never know. Probably there for aesthetics to balance out the bird on fire.

Hadji's_Goatee · Mar 12, 2018

kapowaz said:
Maybe we should add an angry cat on the top though?

I think the cat like the phoenix is more of a civic thing rather than club. I'm a fan of the elephant because it represents footballing attributes, strength, fight, spirit. And the castle the fortress of our home ground.

pusbccfc · Mar 12, 2018

Agree with a post above, our badge is one of the best in the country.

Malaka · Mar 12, 2018

Nice, but what about those poor people with our badge tattooed on one calf and the Three Lions on the other?

Nick · Mar 12, 2018

Malaka said:
Nice, but what about those poor people with our badge tattooed on on calf and the Three Lions on the other?

Get it covered with a Bulldog. Easy.

kapowaz · Mar 12, 2018

Opportunity to appear on tattoo-fixers beckons!

lifeskyblue · Mar 12, 2018

kapowaz said:
Yeah, I was reading this article earlier too, which talks about Leofric’s eagle and the phoenix only being added in 1959, which is so long after the club’s inception as to make them unnecessary in my view.

By this logic we could/should get rid of the sky blue kit, the nickname, the song etc
Im not averse to some change but we need to be aware of the importance of tradition to many fans.

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Liquid Gold · Mar 12, 2018

I like our badge, think it stands out as one of the best. Nothing worse than these horrible crest designs with nothing going on. If we were to change it then I would say go back to just the elephant and ball.

kapowaz · Mar 12, 2018

lifeskyblue said:
By this logic we could/should get rid of the sky blue kit, the nickname, the song etc

I dunno, I think some of these are clearly part of our club’s identity, but others aren’t so much. The eagle and phoenix were absent from previous club logos and the Sky didn’t fall then. Given they weren’t even added to the city’s heraldic emblem until 1959, they’ve probably been absent more than present!

itsabuzzard · Mar 12, 2018

kapowaz said:
Ha, I know what you mean! Unfortunately taking liberties is a little bit necessary to give the pose any kind of interest. Just look at the poor elephant on the current logo. It’s not easy to tell if those are skinny legs behind, or if it’s meant to be an outline for contrast (I assume the latter but it still looks kind of weird).

You’re the second person to mention badges though. I had already thought I might look into that; it’s kind of expensive unless you have a decent order size though. Would anyone else be interested if I did make a limited run of them?

Me

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skylark37 · Mar 12, 2018

I still in general really like our badge and although some might argue that it looks dated / over cluttered I think given all the uncertainty surrounding the club in recent years, identity is really important so I can't see a badge change for a little while yet.

The 2011 badge change was a good simplification in my opinion. Perhaps similar to what spurs have done. If this was based on our crest from an earlier era does anybody know which it was?
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/52122000/jpg/_52122192_city_kit_badge_226.jpg

Only other thing I wondered was whether Lady Godiva could be included on a badge design somehow? That would surely be unique. I could actually see that working with your cartoon style, kapowaz. I think those you've posted here were nicely designed on the whole but too similar to Man City.

ccfc_ukr · Mar 12, 2018

kapowaz said:
Maybe we should add an angry cat on the top though?

an angry cat being thrown in a bin?

Liquid Gold · Mar 12, 2018

Stay away from the Godiva theme, don't want to look anything like Cov Utd. Man City fans actually requested a change back to a circular design as that's what they've historically had. I don't think we've ever had a crest around our badge for any significant period of time so should be avoided. Anything that makes us look more like Man City should be avoided.

stupot07 · Mar 12, 2018

I like it!

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Captain Dart · Mar 12, 2018

Liquid Gold said:
Stay away from the Godiva theme, don't want to look anything like Cov Utd. Man City fans actually requested a change back to a circular design as that's what they've historically had. I don't think we've ever had a crest around our badge for any significant period of time so should be avoided. Anything that makes us look more like Man City should be avoided.

Apart from winning all the time. :emoji_grin:

Deleted member 5849 · Mar 12, 2018

I like our badge. While everything else dumbs down and cheapens, at least we still get that!

gary_ccfcforever · Mar 12, 2018

It doesn't need changing

Alkhen · Mar 12, 2018

Sorry man I dont like those at all.

I think the current one works really well and unless they were to go for a elephant on a football silhouette then id leave a badge change well alone.

I honestly think we have one of the classiest badges around. Far better than most revamps over the last few years.

withnail · Mar 12, 2018

Agreed. The current badge is one of the best.
Crests ( and pub names) need leaving be.

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