Agents Fees (2 Viewers)

[stupot07]

I think I'm in the wrong game here, you clearly do get money for old rope.

Premier League: Clubs increase spending to £260m on football agents in 2018-19



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[ccfcway]

crazy,

Wasn't that long ago...…

Premiership wage bill 1999: £397m

 

[oucho]

crazy,

Wasn't that long ago...…

Premiership wage bill 1999: £397m

Even that figure is eye-wateringly high. I dread to think what it is today.

Sanchez being on £370k a week makes my skin crawl. It wiuld take me years to earn that, and I do my job better than he does. People would cite ''market economics" as justification for this but United will struggle to offload him now, he's on a long term contract and has been dire for 2 years....who'd take him off theor hands?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Even that figure is eye-wateringly high. I dread to think what it is today.

Sanchez being on £370k a week makes my skin crawl. It wiuld take me years to earn that, and I do my job better than he does. People would cite ''market economics" as justification for this but United will struggle to offload him now, he's on a long term contract and has been dire for 2 years....who'd take him off theor hands?

As long as obscene TV deals are dished out clubs will keep handing out contracts like money's on tap. There's a few PL clubs who could make a profit without anyone going to the games, such is their TV income. Which is how titch pieces of shit like Bournemouth and Burnley can turnover £100m+ with crowds little better than ours

 

[Irish Sky Blue]

As long as obscene TV deals are dished out clubs will keep handing out contracts like money's on tap. There's a few PL clubs who could make a profit without anyone going to the games, such is their TV income. Which is how titch pieces of shit like Bournemouth and Burnley can turnover £100m+ with crowds little better than ours

Very harsh, particularly on Burnley who are a great club with a long top flight tradition including title wins as recent as the 1960s. They have an average gate of 20k in a town with a population of 70k. There is an argument that can be made that they are the best supported club in England based on attendance to population ratio.

 

[Magwitch]

Very harsh, particularly on Burnley who are a great club with a long top flight tradition including title wins as recent as the 1960s. They have an average gate of 20k in a town with a population of 70k. There is an argument that can be made that they are the best supported club in England based on attendance to population ratio.

True about Burnley, my dads team as a lad. For years their capacity at Turf Moor was higher at just over 60000 than the towns population and used to finish top four year after after.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Very harsh, particularly on Burnley who are a great club with a long top flight tradition including title wins as recent as the 1960s. They have an average gate of 20k in a town with a population of 70k. There is an argument that can be made that they are the best supported club in England based on attendance to population ratio.

Harsh but true. Propped up by obscene TV revenue like quite a few others in that league. Let’s be honest and say that below the top 6 it’s a pile of average teams who got lucky with a tycoon or a manager who put players in the right slot.

I know that people want to pretend that the likes of Dyche are master tacticians when really they are just applying common sense.

 

[ccfcway]

Harsh but true. Propped up by obscene TV revenue like quite a few others in that league. Let’s be honest and say that below the top 6 it’s a pile of average teams who got lucky with a tycoon or a manager who put players in the right slot..

below the top 6 ?. Chelsea and Man City are the two who "got lucky" the most

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

below the top 6 ?. Chelsea and Man City are the two who "got lucky" the most

I agree but are now clearly above the rest

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

Agents fees are just money out of the game, if a player wants to pay them that’s up to them but the clubs never should they are parasites

 

[Grendel]

We were the 8th biggest spenders on agents in league 1 - there’s no direct correlation to player budget but I’d say it’s a pretty good indicator

 

[better days]

We were the 8th biggest spenders on agents in league 1 - there’s no direct correlation to player budget but I’d say it’s a pretty good indicator

Most analysts say there is almost a direct correlation between league position and wage bills across all divisions
You get the occasional outlier like Leicester and Accrington where a group of outstanding players come together under an efficient manager and buck the trend (with Leicester it was Pearson who started things off prior to getting the boot for non football reasons)
But even then those clubs generally aren't able to hold onto their best players because other clubs will pay them more than they can afford
An honourable exception was Jamie Vardy of course

 

[oucho]

As long as obscene TV deals are dished out clubs will keep handing out contracts like money's on tap.

This is where I do hae some sympathy for football - the TV companies offer such sums because they know people around the world will buy enough subscriptions to justify it; TV companies can't afford to let their rivals snaffle all the rights as TV companies with no rights = no subscribers = out of business, so they bid up as can't afford to not get some. With enough global demand for the Premier League, it makes sense. Equally, once they have the money in their pockets, the clubs have to outbid each other for the limited talent. So as long as fans are interested in watching TV, their money will find its way to the players' pockets.

I was at a conference recently and met delegates from Sweden, Kazakhstan, America and the Czech Republic - all football fans but they had no interest in their own national leagues, they all had PL teams they followed and each of them actually spent Saturdays watching games on TV at home as part of their lifestyle. I didn't understand quite how big a deal our PL is abroad; it's huge.

 

[oucho]

An honourable exception was Jamie Vardy of course

Not often that you see those words in same sentence as each other.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

This is where I do hae some sympathy for football - the TV companies offer such sums because they know people around the world will buy enough subscriptions to justify it; TV companies can't afford to let their rivals snaffle all the rights as TV companies with no rights = no subscribers = out of business, so they bid up as can't afford to not get some. With enough global demand for the Premier League, it makes sense. Equally, once they have the money in their pockets, the clubs have to outbid each other for the limited talent. So as long as fans are interested in watching TV, their money will find its way to the players' pockets.

I was at a conference recently and met delegates from Sweden, Kazakhstan, America and the Czech Republic - all football fans but they had no interest in their own national leagues, they all had PL teams they followed and each of them actually spent Saturdays watching games on TV at home as part of their lifestyle. I didn't understand quite how big a deal our PL is abroad; it's huge.

Yup plastic foreigners are worth big money. I saw La Liga’s president say they wanted to be the second biggest league in every country after the native league. Scudamore would never allow that.

 

[mark82]

Didn't realise that Fulham had spent £100m, 5th most in the league. Still getting relegated. Wow.

 

[oucho]

Didn't realise that Fulham had spent £100m, 5th most in the league. Still getting relegated. Wow.

Huddersfield fans have been moaning about their club not even tringt to compete. You can't aim that at Fulham, but their utter incompetence with a budget like that is pretty startling.

Yup plastic foreigners are worth big money. I saw La Liga’s president say they wanted to be the second biggest league in every country after the native league. Scudamore would never allow that.

The game is becoming part of "the entertainment industry" , more and more it reminds me of WWF/WCW in terms of how it's promoted/marketed etc.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Huddersfield fans have been moaning about their club not even tringt to compete. You can't aim that at Fulham, but their utter incompetence with a budget like that is pretty startling.



The game is becoming part of "the entertainment industry" , more and more it reminds me of WWF/WCW in terms of how it's promoted/marketed etc.

The game was packaged up like that from 1992

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Huddersfield fans have been moaning about their club not even tringt to compete. You can't aim that at Fulham, but their utter incompetence with a budget like that is pretty startling.

The game is becoming part of "the entertainment industry" , more and more it reminds me of WWF/WCW in terms of how it's promoted/marketed etc.

Huddersfield have used the money to set themselves up in the long run at least. As for the latter part, it has been like that for ages but recently it seems to have accelerated. I’m now supposed to get excited by Watford v Burnley

 

[oucho]

The game was packaged up like that from 1992

Correct, but as BSB says it has increased massively in the last few years. When we went down in 2001 the PL was still fairly similar to how it had been in the last years of the football league. It's unrecognisable now, more like NFL or something.

 

[Grendel]

Correct, but as BSB says it has increased massively in the last few years. When we went down in 2001 the PL was still fairly similar to how it had been in the last years of the football league. It's unrecognisable now, more like NFL or something.

Lee Hughes was being paid £18,000 a week in the championship by us. I know one very average defender in the premier league in the mid 90’s was on £28,000 a week basic salary.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Lee Hughes was being paid £18,000 a week in the championship by us. I know one very average defender in the premier league in the mid 90’s was on £28,000 a week basic salary.

Wonder when we will next offer a contract of that size

 

[oucho]

Lee Hughes was being paid £18,000 a week in the championship by us. I know one very average defender in the premier league in the mid 90’s was on £28,000 a week basic salary.

I reckon that the equivalent of Hughes today would be on ten times that!

 

[Grendel]

I reckon that the equivalent of Hughes today would be on ten times that!

In the championship? £9 million a year?

 

[oucho]

In the championship? £9 million a year?

Sorry I meant as a 15-20 goals a season Prem striker, not Championship, so perhaps that's not quite a "Hughes equivalent".

 

[clint van damme]

I know that I and others sometimes look back at the 70s and 80s through rose tinted glasses and there was a lot wrong back then, (especially the hooligan problem), but surely the game has swung to far away from its roots now at the top level?

 

[oucho]

Yup plastic foreigners are worth big money. I saw La Liga’s president say they wanted to be the second biggest league in every country after the native league. Scudamore would never allow that.

Same thing happened again today. New lady has just joined us from Canada. Was having a chat with her and she says she loves football..."I'm a Spurs fan". In fairness she did go to the Palace game during her first week of living in London, but otherwise she's grown up as an armchair fan in Alberta.